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By thi logic why take the polio vaccine?

Lunacy is posting over and over again with the same points. I wear seat belts, I don’t smoke in theaters and restaurants, I stand for the National Anthem, take my hat off, don’t drink on the beach, stay within the speed limit, don’t drink and drive, all these infringements on my rights are for the benefit of all. My father said that people were annoyed when they were made to wear seatbelts, I was annoyed when I was told I couldn’t drive and text or talk on my cell. I get flu shots every year because the goal posts change location every year, so what if I need a booster as science learns how this virus mutates or the find out if the potency wanes over time. Ok you can go back to your rants that are convincing nobody. Just preach to your choir and be happy.

My point about the booster shot recommendation was, as someone said since my post, was that the goal posts are moving. This will never end. San Francisco is requiring 5 year olds to have vaccine cards to eat at restaurants!?!? You've got to be kidding me. This is the insanity that I just can't grasp. A higher percentage of children die from the flu every year than Covid. Why isn't there a mandatory flu vaccination for children? And as for 'what's wrong with the recommending the immunocompromised get boosters'....nothing, if that's where it ended. How many NBA players are immunocompromised? NBA to players, coaches, refs: Booster shots are recommended | NBA.com There are no goal posts any longer. So if you live in California, do you need a booster every six months to remain "fully vaccinated" so you can continue enjoying the freedom to eat at a restaurant? A buddy of mine told me Austin TX canceled their President's Day parade for the second year in a row due to Covid. This year it was canceled because the organizers stated there was no way to check everyone's vax card who attends the outdoor parade! Lunacy.

Performance issues are common in men that are new to the Lifestyle regardless of age, the pressure of performing in from of an audience can be overwhelming, my suggestion is to start with some separate room action to build up your confidence, then move gradually to same room encounters. Also, there is nothing wrong with watching at the beginning, usually, I start with the other girl while the boys watch and acclimate and warm-up, then they join us by turns once they feel ready, it is totally ok to take your time to enjoy the show while you touch yourself a little.

Don't they? NYC had 134,142 cases/1M https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&mid=%2Fm%2F02_286&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen Miami had 248,030/1M https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&mid=%2Fm%2F0jhy9&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen NYC population density is 27,000/sq mile Miami has 13,000/sq mile Miami had roughly twice the infections per million despite being less than half as dense. And with more outdoor activities and sun shine at that. There were noted spikes in NY following the return of spring breakers from FL.

We were at a party one night and while playing I started to feel sick. I leaned over to gently touch my SO to let him know that I wanted to leave. If he had ignored me, I would have been shocked. He is an incredibly passionate lover (I think we both are), but not to the point where he would ignore me if I touched him.

It was absolutely not my intent to shame anyone. I think it's fine for people to enjoy whatever turns them on. I was honestly trying to understand why these men thought it was ok to behave this way. And, I was trying to get some guidance for the future on how to handle these situations!

Interesting to read both the question and the responses. My wife and I knew a couple who fell in love in the lifestyle. They were both married and very passionate play partners. Nobody thought anything of it. The two couples were friendly and everyone envied the passion between the wife of one and the husband of the other. Until they both divorced and ended up together. I have to say that if I am playing and my wife touches me (be it tenderly or tapping), I will respond. Even If it is just to let her know that I'm always there for her.. I agree that fun is fun, but my wife always comes first. Regardless of how hot sex might be with someone else. After all, that's all it is, right? Sex with someone else. I love my wife and that's really more important than any hot moment with another woman. I have also seen tons of people having sex in the lifestyle. Passion between couples? Not that common. Sex, yes, passion, no. I guess we all see things differently.

MRNA does not combine with your DNA and change your genetic code. Just thought that I would mention that to the do your research people.

The flu vaccine is developed each year based on a 'prediction' of the strain that scientists think will be circulating. They get this wrong most of the time and in fact the flu vaccine is only about 40% effective. There are new studies that show you're actually much better off skipping a year rather than getting a flu vaccine every year. I don't nor have I ever had a flu vaccine. No need. Feel free, but you can't force me. The COVID vaccines have a host of other problems. The spike protein is bad for the human body. If we get one then two and then boosters each year (actually every 6 months as the effectiveness wanes in as little as 6 months) we are adding a poison on top of poison. That won't end well. So, I support everyone right to get the vaccine as often as they like, but I deserve the right to choose not to vaccinate as well. mRNA is a gene therapy, not a vaccine and I like my genes the way 1000's of years of natural evolution have influenced them. And I will not be bullied into getting the shot so I can protect others. It's simply BS. You get your shot, your protected from me. End of story.

Come on, you are using math and science for guidance? Just ask Joe Rogan what to do.

I just look at countries specifically in Asia with a strong mask culture and see how they have had much, much better results despite having higher population density to see the value of masks. As well as to the opinion of the toxicologist in the family.

I don’t understand the hatred by people for the covid vax. I am sure these people are vaccinated for polio, measles, mumps, chicken pox, etc. Well, I guess I do understand.

Yeah... I really don't understand the issue the OP is raising...? "The passion was palpable?" Gee. I would hope so. And why would their spouses want to intervene? "Honey, I'm cool with letting you fuck him. But, only if you promise not to have too much fun. Then I'll have to put a stop to it!" Lol! WTF?

On the point about the division that exists in the US, let's face facts: It is entirely intentional. Straight out of the gates, politics invaded every aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic. The political opposition to the former organization demonized every single move it made, no matter the consequences, right up to and including the introduction of the vaccine. As I've mentioned previously, it is the very height of hypocrisy for the current administration to admonish and demonize people for failing to get vaccinated when they were the very ones fomenting distrust in the vaccine right from the beginning--because it suited their political objectives. They never gave a single thought about the long-term consequences of those actions. They just wanted the Orange Haired Ogre gone and they didn't care how they did it. They determined the pandemic could be used as a wedge issue, and they weaponized it. The vaccine mandates are obviously just another political weapon. If the goal of the administration was actually to win over the hearts and minds of the people sitting on the fence about the vaccine, "Do it! Or else!" and threatening someone's livelihood would not be the logical tact. The current administration feels it serves their political objectives to create an "Us vs. Them" political dynamic; to paint "Us" as the intelligent, logical, science-based crowd, putting the so-called Common Good first, while painting "Them" as uneducated, knuckle-dragging, tin hat conspiracists, married to their sisters, who are existential threats to the Common Good. For instance, look at how they've attempted to demonize Florida Governor DeSantis for his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic? Never mind that Florida, the third largest state in the union, now enjoys the lowest over infection rate per capita. And, unlike California, Florida's economy is booming and people continue to move here in record numbers. Objectively speaking, Governor DeSantis probably managed the pandemic better than just about any other governor of any other major state in the union. In contrast, they heralded and lionized the (now-disgraced and former) New York Governor Cuomo, who, by any objective measure, managed his state into an economic and healthcare catastrophe. We'll never know the full extent of his mis-management because nobody in this current administration, or the main stream media, has any interest in reporting on it. Why? It doesn't serve their political objectives: Blue states = Good; Red states = Bad. Us vs. Them. Regarding the medical risks inherent to swinging, not all risks are the same. Some risks are acceptable; others are not. Vaginosis and chlamydia won't kill you and are usually cleared up with a couple of rounds of antibiotics and typically have no long-term side effects. Other diseases, like hepatitis and HIV, are far more serious with potentially long-lasting, life altering, sometimes life ending, results. We've always been people who played with a very purposeful eye towards reducing the odds of a catastrophic medical problem. Most serious risks can be mitigated by just following some fairly sensible precautions. Testing is one. Playing within a closed circle is another. Following a hard rule regarding condoms is a third. However, most sexually transmitted diseases are contact diseases. COVID-19 is not a contact disease. It is spreads through aerosolized particulates, just like influenza and the common cold. This is going to make mitigating it far more difficult. And, just because COVID-19 was no big deal to one person, doesn't mean it won't be a big deal to someone else. I had a 51 year-old friend, fully vaccinated, and in otherwise excellent health (an avid runner) pass away from COVID-19, leaving behind a wife and two kids.

We both are extremely passionate people in anything we do! Whether it is sex, sports or playing music it isn’t worth doing unless we can put all of our passion into it. We both want each other to have the best possible time they can when they are having sex with other people or we just don’t see the point of doing it. That is why we don’t have a list of do’s and don’ts for each other when it comes to lifestyle play other then we are both there. We also avoid couples that do have big lists of rules for each other. No kissing is a big no thanks for us. There have been many times in play with others where she is completely lost in passion and not paying attention to me at the same time! I love the fact that she lets herself get lost in the moment and is the best lover she can be with someone she is attracted to. I just back off and enjoy watching her until my opportunity opens up. I know at the end of the day that I will be getting that same kind of passion from her all the time. Some folks enjoy random robot sex with others! We do not.

Superb reply. Also, on the subject of vaccine politics and hypocrisy, you forgot to mention the people in power today are the very same people who were guilty of fomenting distrust about the vaccine from the very start. That's right. The people who demand the firing of nurses, doctors, cops, firefighters, pilots, teachers, etc. for not being vaccinated, are the very ones who were undermining public confidence in the vaccine from the onset. Search then Sen. Harris' comments about the "Trump" vaccine. And you certainly could have pointed out the glaringly inaccurate predictions that thousands of fans attending college and professional football games, and other sporting events, were destined to be COVID-19 "super-spreader events!" In reality, there has been no meaningful spike in COVID-19 infections related to any sporting events, even where tens of thousands of unmasked people are standing shoulder-to-shoulder for hours on end. We know these statements and policies are all political in nature because, even when they fail spectacularly, we never hear or read any corrections or redactions; we never hear Fauci, or one of Biden's other lackeys, simply say, "Gee. We sure got that wrong. Maybe we've been over-reacting a bit?"

Read through the responses and must admit that I was surprised that these were both married men. We rarely have brought in a straight single guy here and there as a playmate but as we look at profiles these days most are self described bulls or looking for cuckold situations. We are just looking for a playmate. is it too much porn? Is this something their wives weren’t into? Now they are exploring this with a new playmate? I sometimes enjoy a single smack on the butt or gently hair tugging in the heat of the moment but not choking and certainly not real pain. Not cool to make that assumption and then not take the hint when it didn’t go over well.

There have been a few threads where people have had strongly divided reactions on this, mostly from women who are not into it and seem to find it objectionable that others are. That's OK. It's not everyone's job to keep track of everyone else's kinks. However, Table 2 from a survey of 1,500 people in Quebec conducted by people who did make it their job are enlightening. Submission, bondage, spanking, and whipping are at least in the same ballpark as the prevalence of swinging fantasies among women: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/What-exactly-is-an-unusual-sexual-fantasy-Joyal-Cossette/9e3de3d5e2bb45bb2e362878911b60b711168700 It's OK to feel that way. It's also OK not to. I didn't think OP was trying to shame anyone, but genuinely trying to understand where this was coming from and how to address it. The important thing, in this thread, is that it's definitely not OK to assume that others are into it, and nobody's doing anything wrong by bluntly telling someone to knock it off. I don't consider myself "a dom", but I'm more than happy to help women who want that. I also have lots of fun with women who don't. Mrs. E gets a day-long headache if her hair is pulled at all. On the other hand, sometimes we've been known to set up the wrist cuffs.

Swallow for sure, but she prefers cum in her pussy. The Reality is, we find guys don't tend to cum as easily with a BJ as they do fucking. I know I don't, regardless of the woman. I do love it when what I thought was foreplay turns into her giving a full on Beej until I cum. A nice change up. Still, I think my favorite way to cum is in her pussy.

I swallow, in fact, a good load it is what I expect if I am finishing off a guy with my mouth

Mrs. Alura did. She once remarked, "I always expect to swallow. If I didn't, the guy's cock wouldn't be in my mouth."