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From one old perverted,open sexually deviant couple to all of your beautiful people on this board, Happy Holiday In whatever form you celebrate or gather, naked/dressed, friends/family, play partners/future partners, vax'd/un-vax'd, or just enjoying quiet evenings with the one you love most. Enjoy and be well, S

Personally I quite enjoy seeing two men together. I find gay porn hot! Personal preference. I think it is important for us not to judge others. If you like it partake, if not don't. There is no need to malign each other about it.

In the almost eight years we have played with others I have never witnessed men playing with other men. I know it might sound strange that our swinging was based on me being with another woman and much of our play continues to be with women who are curious in bisexual play, we have never been approached for male bisexual play. We never found it a want with people we have been with.

As much as she loves participating in and watching girl on girl play she has no interest in seeing man on man play! I am not attracted to men or penis so it is not something she is going to have to be around. What others do behind closed doors in no concern of ours.

If I may say so, I think it's very positive that you seem to be getting a handle on what does and doesn't work for you. I wanted to toss out another bit of advice (which you may seen in other posts but just in case). As you continue to talk, remember there is a big difference between what sounds really great when you're all hot and naked and having sex, and what sounds like a good idea when things are calm and clear. Lots of people find the fantasy of a thing really hot but when they think about it in the clear light of day, they could never do it. So, when your talking about swinging and considering actually doing it, focus on how you feel about it when you're dressed and sitting down to breakfast, not when you're all hot and bothered and climbing into bed.

No interest in a swingers club for us, no interest in watching strangers have sex in a club. Our big problem is can we have sex with others and watching adds to the problem. We are still talking about it, inching closer to maybe.

Agreed. Communication is all, it is totally essential. Yes, but... There is only more with your sex life as a couple, which can be greater than the sum of the two parts. Individually, if you both are already happy with your individual sex lives, I don't think you are going to find swinging changes that much. Nor should it. But as a couple, I think you will find it supercharges your sex life as the compersion thing kicks in and her sexual happiness becomes part of you on top of your individual happiness and satisfaction, and same for her with you. Swinging sex can range from bad to ok to fantastic. Honestly, most encounters are going to fall well short of fantastic, and you just hope the bad ones are few and far between. After you have been with someone for so long, you and her know each other in and out, including in the bedroom. For a lot of people, having sex with someone new, especially someone you just met say like at a club, that comfort level just isn't there and for many (including us), the more comfortable you are with someone the better the sex tends to be.

WE read so many posts last night. Some questions brought up more questions. Questions brought up conversation, conversation lead to SEX. Not a bad thing. Debbie asked me if I would watch, do I want to watch, would I enjoy watching, would I watch if it was our friend or better with a stranger. Good questions. She additionally asked if I think our lady friend is attractive, would I pick her up if she was in a singles bar and we were all single. She asked me if ever thought of her friend sexually before. Last night I sure did all night. I blocked out the thought of our male friend and Debbie and undressed in my mind the girlfriend. In my mind YEAH I would do it. Can I? Read a lot about sex with friends, pros and cons. I could go bad, more for us, less for them. They are already swingers. We read a thread that it’s better with people you know and like, and we read do we lose friends if it goes bad. We are still dealing with the can we question. Do we want to question. The more we talk the more curious we become. We found a recent article in a newsfeed, Is Monogamous Sex, Monotonous Sex. I never thought it monotonous but is it? Do we have the same sex every time, do we change it up? We have been monogamous since we became committed. She never complained about our sex, I’m happy, is there more? Debbie’s question if I would watch and enjoy, I asked her if she could watch. She said she would if I wanted. More talk, more questions, more answers, more excitement, more doubt, more reassurance. We decided that to the moment we can change our minds.