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So the other woman can — apparently — please both of you manually and orally, but she isn’t to receive any pleasure from *either* of you? Yeah, let us know how that works out …

No life…no clue. Now posting as his “wife” too. He will soon learn nobody cares that he says nothing good. Does the word Troll fit?

You’re replying to posts that are years old and the op is probably long gone.

I do not think it is reasonable for one person to have no limits but impose them on the other. If she is too hung up for you to play fully with the woman, but totally OK with playing fully with another man, things are out of balance. I do not think that is a long term successful stratagem.

Sometimes it's the case that even people who are reluctant to try something don't actually know why they are reluctant until they've had an opportunity to talk it through. It's good you were able to communicate and figure out what is really the issue and start working from there.

I’m sure this was resolved…8 years ago.

Thanks again to everyone who responded. we did talk about it some more and I explained my point of view easing into the conversation. It turns out that in one of her previous encounters that more attention was being paid to the other female than her. So this is where her boundries stem from. So We’re working on this together a little at a time. This still excites us both very much and just talking about it has really ramped up our fun in bed. The other side of this mff threesome is that my lady is not a giver to another woman, but just a receiver. So in my eyes that leaves the other woman out as far as receiving any pleasure from either of us. Boy this stuff can be a slippery slope.

I encourage it, the biggest thrill in sex for me is watching Mrs cum. It's sexy and beautiful as anything.

This is my biggest play fantasy and my wife has a similar one. Both of these are what have us talking more about going to a club. Firstly my wife gives incredible head mainly because she loves it. I think my fantasy started because I felt bad that I was the only one experiencing it, for the last 30 years anyway. My fantasy is we are at a club and we have met a guy we like, he's BBC. We chat for a while and I go for drinks. When I get back she is on his lap playing with his cock while he fingers her and sucks her tits. When she sees I'm back she kneels between his legs and sucks his cock, I get behind her and finger her pussy while he plays with her tits. After a while she moves to the bed and lies on her back I start to fuck her and her puts his cock back in her mouth, I'm watching a mix of face fucking and her sucking. Finally we all cum together, her on my balls, me on ther belly and him on her tits. Her fantasy while she masterbates is sucking a line of cocks. She's never mentioned if she is working along the line or the line is working its way through her.

Badger, read and understand the entire thread.

Well, at least what you suspected is now confirmed, so don't have to feel bad about putting them on your naughty list.

He shoots, and SCORES!

Sounds to me like your "friend" is pretty childish and petty. I agree with the majority... drop 'em. No need to say anything to him about it. He won't actually listen to what you say even if you do. He'll only hear what he wants to hear and he'll invent a reason that suits his ego. It's not your problem. Move on.

Somebody on this forum once said rules don't need to be fair or equal, they need to be safe and fun. In this case, though, I'd suggest that maybe the two of you could start off exploring soft swap. If intercourse is a sticking point for her with FMF, it might also be a little overwhelming to jump right in with it in MFM. Maybe agreeing to test the waters with consistent rules and see how you feel about expanding would be a better place to start.

I agree with the other posters. You can’t have a rule where one person limits the other person, but not themself. If you do go ahead with the threesome with the other woman, what are her desires? Maybe she will want intercourse with the male. Does she get deprived of this because the gf doesn’t want her bf banging women? Can get tricky. We always have a vanilla dinner or drinks with a prospective couple before we get to play. If they have fugazy rules that we cannot abide, we wish them well and move on.

Well then, you could get an entire one of my breasts in your mouth. The others like to do that. Clair has a way of moving her tongue around while pulling the whole thing in which feels nice to me.