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I never thought President’s Weekend to be a major holiday except for shopping and card ads on TV. This year the excitement has been building for a road trip to our friends again. Debbie has ordered a new sexy outfit off one of those websites. It’s cute even though I think it’s crazy, we are friends and they have seen us naked, very naked before. She is having so much fun preparing for the trip and has become so sexy talking about it. I know she is also nervous worried about being with a woman sexually. It’s strange to answer questions about what to do sexually. I laugh, sex is natural and just do what you think you would like her to do to you. She asked about not having me watch. Stupid me said whatever you want. I did say I watched her with him in every possible position and oral. I know watching her with a woman would be exciting for me and then I know deep down this should be about her. She is so unsure and I don’t want to make it any harder for her. I read swinging is for couples to enjoy together and many of the men have posted the main reason they swing is to show off their wife and to watch them with other men. I don’t think that is the case for us, it’s about fun and pleasure. If I take the fun and pleasure away from her would it be just for what I want? Swinging was very difficult for me and her. I don’t know how others felt the first time and I certainly don’t know how a woman playing with another woman would feel. Is there double guilt? I think I know Debbie wasn’t the least bit bicurious before swinging. This might sound perverted, how did the other women on here feel the first time with a woman? Any guilt involved or just didn’t think about it? I want to be sure Debbie is doing this with no pressure.

It’s nice you are thinking about her feelings. I surely remember my first time with another girl, it was a threesome and it just happened. I didn’t over think it, it came naturally as a threesome could be. My friend and I shared a guy and what happened was just a progression of the act. My more recent swinging was to please my husband, he never saw two women together. I’m not sure if it was the right reason even if it did lead us to many fun times. That new first time wasn’t what we planned, not the Unicorn we searched for, we ended up with a couple, she was sweet, he wasn’t. My husband got to watch and as a bonus to him he had sex with a younger attractive woman. We have since been with others looking for what we looked for. I can tell the ones who are doing it for the husband, like I did. Over the years I’ve learned to ask the woman questions to make sure she isn’t being forced to do it. Many are doing it just for him, I hate that. Sounds hypocritical because that is why I did. You are having fun with friends you have already been naked with. You have seen the friend naked and had sex with her. You have watched your wife have sex with someone. The hardest part of swinging is behind you, that first time. You know she is nervous, she has asked you to not watch. My suggestion is for you and your friend go out for a drink and leave the ladies home alone. Let your wife be comfortable without the extra pressure of you watching. These friends will be there for more fun. If your wife can get by her first time with a woman and she enjoys it you will get to watch during future visits. I’m thinking you may get to watch right after you get back to their house with your friend. Let her enjoy her first and you will be rewarded.

Sorry to be blunt but your friend is a sleaze. The mere idea of him suggesting doing your wife and not involving his wife is unbelievable. It has never happened but if one of my friends suggested sleeping with my wife via threesome while his wife is left in the dark...I'd reconsider the friendship. What other slimy things does this guy do?

Now he wants you to convince his wife that she should get on board with this idea?! He is not only NOT a friend, he’s a lazy, horrible person. If it were us in your situation, we’d no longer be associating with this person. I feel sorry for his wife.

Well, Vitamin V was not around in 1990 for the first time we had sex at age 20 each.

Vitamin V. Works everytime.

I’m not in the LS but this seems like a bad idea. A) because you don’t seem comfortable B) his wife is out of the picture. C) it sounds like he wants to go 1-1 with her. Now personally I’m cool with the idea of someone fucking my wife, that’s why I’m on the website, but it has to be on our terms as a couple and friends are not on the menu.

Veryyyyyy hot

If that’s your wife she is a smokeshow. I would do anything she wanted

My wife seems to enjoy it,she did a few live BJ me in front of a online fans and enjoying being film to post it.

We would be happy to watch her knit (as long as she was naked), but we would love to watch her masturbate in front of us!

Very hot.

As with everything in the lifestyle it is all a matter of choice. And the analogy of condom use for protection being like wearing a mask for COVID protection is very spot on. Like the mask not actually giving protection from the disease it is better than nothing and gives a modest amount of protection. More limiting pregnancy than disease protection. Sex is messy, wet participating activity. Not limited to mouth and genital contact….hands and fingers. Used to touch, feel, stroke and penetrate then touch, brush, rub etc body parts, face tongue etc. transference. We respect others choices without question. And we have played soft and full swap with others using and not using condoms. We prefer not to use them…..far more exciting and enjoyable. But circumstances dictate. As a result we have had a very rich and fantastic Lifestyle experience. More so my wife has experience most anything she desired or fantasized about, as it should be, and So have I as a result of supporting her, her desires and experiences. we have slowed down over the years. Have personal friends, long term and play open and freely with them naturally and fully as lovers. A full sharing….without condoms finishing as we wish with each other. But that is our choice.