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I do agree with realcplub2; getting feedback from women here on this forum will offer some confirmation bias. The only women on this forum will very likely be women who enjoy swinging and have had good experiences from it. That said, there are some things you might not be aware of that bear considering. Quite a few women do very much enjoy swinging and get lots of satisfaction from it. Women are a strong element of swinging. If women were more reluctant than men after getting into swinging, then there wouldn't be swinging. From my perspective, women tend to have a bite more difficult of a time separating sex from emotions. My wife certainly agrees with this. It's possible that on average women get into swinging more slowly than men. But, women wouldn't be in it if it wasn't worth it. It most definitely IS worth it...IF the couple is ready, IF the couple is very close, IF the couple has strong communication skills, IF the couple have no issues in their relationship. Your wife might not be completely onboard with swinging yet. It sounds like she's quite interested, but is uncertain about all of it. That's perfectly understandable. There's a rule of thumb swingers have quite often said; move at the pace of the slower of the couple in getting into swinging. You've been fantasizing about it for years, and are likely more ready for it than she is. Allow her to grow into the idea. Move at HER pace, not yours. If you really want this fantasy to come true, you need to support her in her thoughts and decisions about this, and certainly by no means should you try to move her along faster than she's ready. It is a wonderful, wonderful thing to watch your wife having sex with another man. But, it's all meaningless if she isn't enjoying it too. I've seen my wife have sex with other men many times. It's intensely erotic...because she is enjoying it! Your wife isn't ready for that, even if she gets very turned on by the idea. realcplub2 is right; you need to talk about this well away from the bedroom, without being overwhelmed by sexual thoughts. If you do go down this path, understand that the first time doing something isn't likely to be a great measure of how much she will enjoy it. My wife and I talked about this possibility before we got into it. We agreed we'd do it a few times at least, even if it was just a so-so experience. We'd just try different people. It's a good thing we did this; the third time was the charm for my wife. Before that, the sex was kind of humdrum, and not really worth it. Ok, not a bad evening, but not really worth it. The third guy? He curled my wife's toes...quite literally...and she couldn't get enough sex with him. Shortly after we were on the way home from that, she said "Ok, NOW I'm a swinger!" That time was definitely worth it. It can be for your wife too, but you need to proceed at her pace. Talk lots about it, in the bedroom AND well away from it as realcplub2 said. Don't allow your own fantasy dictate this, otherwise she can end up feeling like she's only doing it to fulfill your fantasy. That will end badly. It needs to be her that wants it, her that enjoys it, her that has a fantasy fulfilled.

Our first MFM will always be special in our couple memory. Not only because it's been a very erotic evening, intense, full of pleasure, but also because... well... a first is a first! We will probably tell that story soon in a post, but first we would like to read from your first MFM. How did it happen? What brought you 3 together? Was it planned? What happened? Make us dream... tell us everything about that special night... 😘😘

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Not addressing the swingers setting, but as to nudist - it's all your upbringing and perspective. I spend a considerable amount of time in Europe and like to go to the spas and thermals where nudity is the norm. It is totally nonsexual and there are families there from toddlers to grandparents, all enjoying the sunshine, water, and saunas. I'm not so naïve to think that no one ever looks at me in a sexual way, but that happens when I am fully clothed.

It is great when watching how both of them react brings satisfaction. For me, it intensifies my jealousy fetish that she is pleasing him, and he her, and he has deposited a living part of himself inside of her. What kicked it up for me is when I found my Lesbian side, hubby would make love to my girlfriend, and my jealousy ran in both directions. The quandary is always who do I reclaim first? Since his dick is too sensitive immediately afterwards and she could go for multiple orgasms, I usually go down on her first.

Thank you, but I consider myself one of the tamer folks around here. Compared to other postings, I have a good amount of sex but haven't had many different partners, even though I have a Lesbian side. Once you get even a little beyond the "one man, one woman" concept (there are three women and two men in our poly family, with an occasional outsider) the permutations and combinations go up quickly. I believe that humans are definitely non-monogamous, but what form that takes, from wildly promiscuous to having someone on the side to a poly family, varies by person.

Baconheads, I was dubious about the veracity of this post from the start. That said, fictitious posts sometimes stimulate useful and on-point discussions.

To follow up on the post Debbie was a queen for a day or as our friends joked Pillow Queen. It had to be explained to me too. In anticipation of our road trip Debbie went shopping on line for sex toys as a gift. We have a wand we use and figured our friends had one too so she wanted to bring something different. We even searched on here for recommendations. I found one the ladies should enjoy and found two similar ones for the clitoris and she bought both. Seems we always have bad weather on our trips but we made it. Friday night was family night, no play with the kids around. We saved our gifts for a better opportunity. Next day the kids went skiing early and gave us plenty of couple time. Horny me couldn’t wait. I brought up the topic of the women playing, me being a jerk saying Debbie has been talking about it all week. It’s great that we can laugh with friends about sex. Why was Debbie a pillow queen? I didn’t get to watch that first time thing. The ladies went to try out the toys ALONE. The joke was about how Debbie just laid back and enjoyed herself. That’s when I fully understood the reference. I did the right thing though. After the girls emerged from the bedroom I was more than eager to please our friend. Sunday I knew the kids, not that young kids were going out at night. I couldn’t wait. I finally got to see something but not totally. We also had our first Other Couple.

It’s nice you are thinking about her feelings. I surely remember my first time with another girl, it was a threesome and it just happened. I didn’t over think it, it came naturally as a threesome could be. My friend and I shared a guy and what happened was just a progression of the act. My more recent swinging was to please my husband, he never saw two women together. I’m not sure if it was the right reason even if it did lead us to many fun times. That new first time wasn’t what we planned, not the Unicorn we searched for, we ended up with a couple, she was sweet, he wasn’t. My husband got to watch and as a bonus to him he had sex with a younger attractive woman. We have since been with others looking for what we looked for. I can tell the ones who are doing it for the husband, like I did. Over the years I’ve learned to ask the woman questions to make sure she isn’t being forced to do it. Many are doing it just for him, I hate that. Sounds hypocritical because that is why I did. You are having fun with friends you have already been naked with. You have seen the friend naked and had sex with her. You have watched your wife have sex with someone. The hardest part of swinging is behind you, that first time. You know she is nervous, she has asked you to not watch. My suggestion is for you and your friend go out for a drink and leave the ladies home alone. Let your wife be comfortable without the extra pressure of you watching. These friends will be there for more fun. If your wife can get by her first time with a woman and she enjoys it you will get to watch during future visits. I’m thinking you may get to watch right after you get back to their house with your friend. Let her enjoy her first and you will be rewarded.

This is my number one pet peeve. People should be able to decide their own sexuality and everyone needs to just accept it. Trying to force a situation because it fits your fantasy is disrespectful at best. I had my best friends husband try to get me to seduce his wife for over 3 years. It ended up costing his marriage, cause she didn't want to do it but he was so persistent and dogged in his pursuit of making her bisexual she ended up leaving him. I had known her since college and she is absolutely ? not Bi. It was sad to watch.

To Numex: First, she's really beautiful. Secondly, she was so very welcoming from the first kiss and that contributed to feeling so good about her stripping me naked (the clothes just fell of me) and the sex. It just felt very normal to start going down on her. She ran her fingers through my hair and started saying,"Now, that's a good girl," and I just went crazy for it all. Then, the powerful feeling when she had an orgasm while I was doing it. She, of course, ended up with my husband. She had me so revved up, her husband came over, and literally bent me over the couch and started fucking me. While I've had other experiences with him that were much more sensual, he said he could tell what I wanted, in that moment, and that was pure physicality. He was not wrong.

She must have been a good seductress (or you had repressed homosexual desires) because every first time girl-girl experience that I've seen or story I've heard of starts with the new-to-the-game woman being the one to have her pussy licked. She can lay back, close her eyes, use her imagination, and enjoy the attention. There's even a name for women who accept that, but won't reciprocate, a pillow queen. I don't think there's a word for the other way around. A woman getting into also performing oral usually takes time. Being licked by a woman isn't a new sensation, but putting your mouth down there can be sensory overload along with her responses. Anyway, a very nice story, thanks for sharing.

I think this is a good path. I really don't see any huge danger signs in how things have gone so far. In fact, the two of you's first swinging experience was much more successful than a lot of first tries. People often think that since they have been having sex for decades, so already have decades of experience and this swinging thing no big deal. Nope, It's totally different, and no amount of sex in the years leading up to swinging with your partner will better prepare you for it, emotional wavelength is just totally different. But, I do think you both need time to just sort of process everything that has happened up until this point, talk about it together, and then together decide where you go from here. There's no timeline on when each step of that needs to happen, just let it come naturally.