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Some of the same opponents of legal abortion also oppose the use of contraceptives. If the US Supreme Court bans the use of contraceptives, we are all seeking asylum at Enhancer’s house.

This clearly is an important question for our society. It does need more , and difficult discussion. Our Constitution does provide venues for that discussion. The previous decisions removed the discussions from their rightful place. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The plus side of menopause is not having to worry about pregnancy. What the Justices said about Roe vs Wade Thomas also said it would be inappropriate for any judge, including himself, to take a case on an issue "in which he or she has such strong views that he or she cannot be impartial. Gorsuch I would tell you that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed," he said. "A good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other." Kavanaugh "It is settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court, entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis," he said. "The Supreme Court has recognized the right to abortion since the 1973 Roe v. Wade case. It has reaffirmed it many times."

Unfortunately, TV, especially in documentaries and 'reality' shows, relies on drama. The shows that have been made about swinging almost always focus on the 'drama' involved and as a result focus on how everything explodes or implodes at some point. A TV show about people who are swinging and live happily ever after, especially since it goes against the norm and the church, would not only be not as 'interesting' to the general public, it would cause outrage and protests in certain areas of the country. While it would be nice to have something accurate and factual about swinging, I have yet to find it...

The OP did not argue in favor of or against abortion. He simply raised the issue that accidental pregnancies arise in swinging and if abortion is illegal, that is a risk in swinging that is more hazardous than it was in the last 49 years.

We live in Canada where the laws are not all going backwards so not to concerned.

she finally agreed

This OP has another thread asking about very emotional issues (son found out...). I would recommend a lot of marriage counseling and individual therapy.

Yes, sex is fun, which is why we are all in swinging. But we also all know that sex makes babies. As swingers, we all know the many ways to try to avoid that result. We have been involved with swinging since the 1980's. As a result, we have known many fellow swingers, and continue to be friends with many. Twice in all those years, a couple suddenly disappeared from the scene, and my wife talked to the wife of the couple about the reason. Both times it was an unplanned pregnancy after all precautions were taken. It happens. As I think of our current culture, I think of how much harder it would have been on these two couples if abortion was not available, and they had to raise a child from a father that they barely knew. I am just thinking that suddenly swinging is becoming much more dangerous.

Wow! 🙄 Politics, at its most basic, affects how members of a polity in a fundamental sense live their lives. Regardless of one’s views on the subject of abortion, yes, this is a political subject; and one that has huge prospective impact on how Americans conduct their sexual lives. As this is a group organized around that very subject, the upcoming Supreme Court decision is totally germane. But Justice Alito’s draft, if it does indeed represent the essence of the forthcoming decision, will have impact on subjects of importance potentially to all Americans whose sexuality and sexual behavior is outside narrowly-defined limits. The core of Alito’s draft is that there is no "penumbra" in the Constitution. That notion of implied rather than specifically enumerated rights in the Constitution what, provided for the idea of a guaranteed individual right to privacy that ensured that people enjoyed within fairly broad limits the ability to conduct their personal lives as they see fit. All of us here on the Swingersboard count on that Constitutionally guaranteed right of privacy. In the mid’60s, when I was in college in Massachusetts, it was a felony, punishable my several years in prison, to provide birth-control information. Not birth-control devices or medications, just advice. In “Griswold" the Supreme Court, under the theory that the Constitution’s penumbra guaranteed privacy, invalidated that Massachusetts law and all other similar ones in any of the 49 other states. Do you enjoy performing or receiving oral sex? That was against the law in a number of states, even when practiced by straight people within a marital relationship. The same with anal sex. Fuck your wife in the ass and if a vice cop was peering in your window you could go to prison for years. Sure, these laws were mostly enforced against gay people, but sometimes against others. "Griswold" led to the end of those laws that severely regulated people’s sexual lives. The current Mississippi case, if Alito’s opinion is the Court’s, will permit states and localities to enact laws that will criminalize the behavior that most of us on this board highly value. (We don’t even need to get into anti-miscegenation laws, which the Supreme Court forbid under the apparently soon to be extinct theory of Constitutionally guarantee of privacy.)

Sure, accidents can happen, but then most swingers use 'protection' to minimize the chances. Even if an accident does happen, I believe that most swingers would accept the baby as their own and probably not ever check for a genetic match. The odds still are much more likely you will be killed going somewhere to swing than you get your swinging partner pregnant. As for us, we are too old to even have that possibility happen and we STILL take precautions to prevent it, but if Ms. Gold would have ended up pregnant during the time we were swinging, I don't think either of us would check to make sure that the baby is biologically 'mine'...the baby would be mine because it was ours. Love can trump genetics.

The first time she was with someone bigger than me she was really enjoying, but it didn’t bother me until his wife said to me that he was going to ruin her for me. I thought that was a rude thing to say. I’m not in this lifestyle to compete with anyone and I can satisfy my wife thank you very much! Lol Anyway she doesn’t get upset when I enjoy someone with bigger tits than hers, so why should I get upset if she likes someone with a bigger cock than mine? That’s kind of the fun of it being with someone that isn’t the same as your partner.

This is a political discussion and not really appropriate for this board.