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In the 60s and 70s, there were state laws against homosexuality, interracial marriage, contraception and, as stated above, contraception education. A series of Supreme Court cases that recognized a constitutional right to privacy made these state laws unconstitutional. If the leaked Alito decision is issued, there will no longer be a federally recognized right to privacy. I think Americans can name the states that will reinstitute the laws mentioned above. Sad to say, in my opinion, this country is regressing in terms of freedom, self-determination and self actualization.

I am ranting. I have tried a different site, Feeld. Chatted with a “single male”. He wanted to be sure I understood the “lifestyle.” Yes. After a fair bit of chatting we decided to meet halfway, a little over a 30 minute drive for me. Brief introductions were exchanged and we started talking lifestyle experiences. I asked if he found it challenging as a single male. Then he said he needed to “clarify” so there wouldn’t be any “expectations.” Yes he is married but his wife is blind and they didn’t talk much about his outside activities but she is aware. I needed to clarify if this meant she would be upset by what he was doing. Yes. That’s cheating in my book and I left. My mistake was not confirming his status. I don't have a problem if the other partner is fine with it and have enjoyed meeting the other half in the past. His actions are not ENM at all. He sent some message how everything isn’t black and white. I doubt the wife is so blind she can’t see what an asshole he is. The excuse itself is offensive. I flagged his profile as fake because it is. Some people are okay with cheaters but I am not, won’t knowingly hurt someone else.

Sure, accidents can happen, but then most swingers use 'protection' to minimize the chances. Even if an accident does happen, I believe that most swingers would accept the baby as their own and probably not ever check for a genetic match. The odds still are much more likely you will be killed going somewhere to swing than you get your swinging partner pregnant. As for us, we are too old to even have that possibility happen and we STILL take precautions to prevent it, but if Ms. Gold would have ended up pregnant during the time we were swinging, I don't think either of us would check to make sure that the baby is biologically 'mine'...the baby would be mine because it was ours. Love can trump genetics.

We attended the club a few weeks back and I was totally unaware of the conspiracy going on over me between a couple we have known for sometime, my wife and a woman that came as a guest with the couple. The evening started off as normal catching up with friends, stories and laughter. I met the friend, I’ll call her Pam, she was a quiet shy woman late fourties’ short dark hair very very thin. She seemed a bit nervous but over the next hour or so at the table we all talked and in time she relaxed and joined in. While I was talking about an up coming bike ride the ladies had been talking between themselves. Something was said, we didn’t hear, that made them laugh. Pam busted out with a loud belly laugh that obviously caught her off guard…she caught herself, hand over her mouth and we all laughed more at her shocked look. That broke any remaining ice on her part. As the evening progressed people were splitting off in pairs, threesomes, foursomes and moresomes. A typical club evening. That is when the wife of the couple and my wife approached me when Pam excused herself to the ladies room. M told me about Pam, how long they have known her. How they valued their long friendship and chose to not include sharing sex play but that Pam was very curious and interested. M said she wanted her friend to have a very good experience and wanted me to ask Pam to join me. She knew I would only do what she was willing to do and not push her into things she might not be ready for. M and my wife then gave me some back ground on Pam’s past let’s just say it wasn’t pleasant and her ex was a huge Ahole. so I guess while I was busy discussing bikes, rides and an upcoming holiday ride the ladies were telling Pam about me and building her confidence. Pam returned and we started talking her and I. Just natural conversation. M her husband and my wife left together for a room and Pam and I remained. In time I asked Pam she would like to join me in a room. She looked a bit startled and blushed quite a bit. I thought I had blown it. But Pam nodded her head yes. I stood and reach out for her hand. She took mine and I walked her down to a closed room with gentle lighting, a double bed and mirrored wall. I looked at her and smiled she quietly smiled back at me and stepped into the room……. with permission from Pam I will be writing a story of this adventure later. In conversation with Pam she later explained to me the conversation she had over weeks with M and her husband and later on the phone with M and my wife. Pam’s hesitation at first but later her agreement and later meeting that evening. Her nervousness. putting this all together it was my wife and friends conspiring to pimp me out. I am flattered of course…..and greatly happy meeting Pam. But my wife pimped me out…..lol damn.

Let this sink in ladies… Whether you believe in abortion or not; you do not have autonomy over your own bodies. And, you will not have autonomy over your own bodies until you stand up. Many men will stand with you, but you must stand up. Shut this fucked-up country down if you need to; but be heard. You have the power to fix this.

We'll be here for both of you if you need help, or just a kind ear to listen. Good luck and know we are with you.

Ladies, just wondering if there are others out there that have a glory hole fetish? We frequent a club with a G-hole room and I absolutely love it. I love the anonymity. I love seeing, stroking and sucking so many different cocks. My friend and I will actually have orgasms from the experience. Any other g-hole sluts out there?

Legally, yes. But whether that happens very much depends on the situation.

I agree with Gold sorta, keeping the child would not be a question of whose it was, but rather if we were capable and ready to rasie a child. If not abortion would be considered. No where does the constitution say that "women" are created equal - run that up the flag pole. I wonder if the bigger issue here is that we, as citizens, don't feel like the system is representative of us. We don't trust states to be fair, impartial and representative. We don't trust the government to be fair and representative. We now are questioning whether the Supreme Court is fair, non-political-impartial and representative. The system is built upon the idea of majority rule, yet after decades of politicians and lawyers screwing around many do not feel it's so. Add to that, folks working to use the constitution and the legal system to legislate moral and ethical behavior and we have a problem. There will NEVER be an answer to whether abortion is right or wrong. There can only be opinions and preferences based on our personal feelings. What the courts can do is to look at the constitution to determine if one person moral code violates another's rights under the constitution. But that is no longer how this works. the law has become a game of words and dancing around. I actually think these issues are much easier to adjudicate, but due to politics, etc have become mired in legal mumbo jumbo. The courts and the politicians have gotten what they have created. An electorate that believes their wishes, moral codes, ethics should be hoisted upon others. I actually think these issues are a lot simpler. The constitution is the foundation, everything comes off of that. Are all men and women created equal. The court says yes. and that is pretty well spelled out in the constitution. so, any law that violates that, needs to be one that improves upon that and benefits the greater good.

Is the “sperm donor” on the hook for child support?

Roe stood as precedent for 49 years. It was affirmed in the Casey case in 1992. The right to privacy theory arose from several cases like Griswold and Loving and it was supported by a majority of the court since the 1960s. You and Judge Alito may disparage it, but I think that the majority of Americans enjoy their right to privacy.

I disagree with this assertion. Have you read the leaked opinion? The court goes through, in excruciating detail, how flawed the Roe v Wade decision was. It was based on absolutely nothing - no legal precedent, no historical text, nothing. Regardless of where one stands on the issue, the Roe decision was a joke.

There used to be a show on TV called "Strange Sex". Each episode dabbled into a different area of sexuality. For example, there was one episode that focused on the cougar lifestyle. Another focused on fetishes. You get the idea. One of the episodes focused on swinging and polyamory. I found the entire series to be very good. It wasn't drama based. They just laid out the subtopic in detail, without judgement, and let the viewer make their own decisions. I found it very educational. I don't know if the show is available on any streaming services, but if it is, it's worth a watch.

Good on you Jane1902. I think you did the right thing. There are some people who are ok playing with cheaters. My wife and I will not. This situation...the whole misrepresentation part, and you're supposed to let him have sex with you? Hell no. Next!

This is where the discussion will go off the rails (not here, in general). Is this something the states should decide or settled at the federal level. In the 50 years since Roe v Wade was decided, why wasn't it codified by the federal government if it was so important? It is no secret that politicians on one side wanted the decision overturned. Maybe, maybe not. I have a hard time believing that states will enact laws so far outside the norm like you suggested (e.g. criminalizing sexual acts). This doesn't mean the Supreme Court should expand their rulings beyond what the Constitution says. The whole point of the Supreme Court is to ensure the Constitution is followed. I do have a concern if Roe v Wade is reversed and how exponentially more fractured America will become.

There was a good show about swingers on CBS about 15 years ago. Swingtown?

This clearly is an important question for our society. It does need more , and difficult discussion. Our Constitution does provide venues for that discussion. The previous decisions removed the discussions from their rightful place. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The plus side of menopause is not having to worry about pregnancy. What the Justices said about Roe vs Wade Thomas also said it would be inappropriate for any judge, including himself, to take a case on an issue "in which he or she has such strong views that he or she cannot be impartial. Gorsuch I would tell you that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed," he said. "A good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other." Kavanaugh "It is settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court, entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis," he said. "The Supreme Court has recognized the right to abortion since the 1973 Roe v. Wade case. It has reaffirmed it many times."

Some of the same opponents of legal abortion also oppose the use of contraceptives. If the US Supreme Court bans the use of contraceptives, we are all seeking asylum at Enhancer’s house.

The OP did not argue in favor of or against abortion. He simply raised the issue that accidental pregnancies arise in swinging and if abortion is illegal, that is a risk in swinging that is more hazardous than it was in the last 49 years.

We live in Canada where the laws are not all going backwards so not to concerned.

she finally agreed

Yes, the other thread was about the son finding out and blaming the parents for not 'being there' while he was growing up because they were swinging on the weekends instead. She is doing what many people do when they have problems coping: throwing themselves into whatever it is they are using to distract them from the actual problem. We agree with the above: take a break from swinging...but be aware that just because you are taking a break, doesn't mean that she is (trust but verify). Just like someone using drugs or alcohol to help them cope, you need to make sure that she doesn't continue to do it on the sly since this is what they are doing to keep from facing the problem. Maybe see if she is willing to try couple counseling 'for you'...that you are having a problem with it and you want her to help you by going to couple counseling. Worst thing that can happen here is she says no. Personally, we feel that both of you could probably benefit from some outside intervention as well as taking a break to allow some time to 'digest' everything that has gone on. Good luck and please know that we are still here to help.

I was facing the same dilemma with my man, he got a kick out of large dicks, even though he was large himself. He wanted to see even bigger guys fuck me. I need to be really horny and a bit tipsy or more to let go and all has to go slow. I am also into anal sex and there we were after a while able to let really big guys to enter and do me hard. In any case, take your time, she knows what you like, now don't push and let her move at her own comfort level. Have fun you guys

Just a question. I am the husband and am wanted to know how you go about telling your wife that you want to have sex with another man? I have thought about it for years now. I love my wife and know that I am not gay but would like to play with other men sometimes. So how did you tell your wife that you are BI and like to play with men also?

While I agree that people should be upfront and honest about what they want to do and what their boundaries are, I just don't get the panic this incident provoked. Before he realized what gender was sucking his cock, the guy was happy--why should the fact that it was a male mouth rather than a female change anything? I can understand being turned off if someone asks you to actively do something that you don't want to do (asking a straight man to go down on another guy). But threatening to punch a guy's teeth in or put him in an ambulance, or even losing the moment "for the rest of the night" seems an extreme and unwarranted reaction to someone's attempt to pleasure you. Maybe if the men were more relaxed about "incidental" bi contact, there would be less "accidental" bi contact.

I am a bit Bi curious.What I have done in the last few months is get some dvd's. Sexual variations is a good one.I also suck on her vibrator while we are getting it on. I asked her if it turns her on and she said ya. I would go easy. Open communication and trust is key. As per my earlier post we are contemplating a MMF encounter.