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...blocking the legitimate appointment of a supreme court justice, legalizing that corpor­a­tions can now spend unlimited funds on campaign advert­ising, gerrymandering, restrictive election laws... It will not stop until we demand it. And, for one moment you don't think they'd come after our pass time??? There are no clubs in Michigan any longer for that reason.

You don’t think ignoring a pandemic, shooting at BLM protesters, shooting missiles at Mexico and trying to overturn an election are good ideas?

Welcome wolfpride! You will find this forum a very welcoming place. We will answer any questions you might have, and help you along on your journey. That also includes telling you straight up if a mistake is being made, as best we can tell. We want you to do well. With that said, we can't know your full situation. But, in the vast majority of cases involving a former boyfriend/husband is often a recipe for disaster. It's possible the ex-husband may think this is a way to get back with your wife. He also may not respect boundaries you establish. It's also possible that regardless of his assurances and his own good intentions, he might very well fall in love with her all over again and want very much to pull her back to him. There's also significant history between them obviously, and there's reasons they broke it off. Those reasons could rear their ugly heads again, and at the worst moment. There are many more potentially bad outcomes here. But, again, we can't know your situation anywhere near enough to fully understand. It's your judgment call. Just be aware this usually doesn't turn out well. It is a common refrain that couples wanting to get into the lifestyle would rather dip their toes in the pool (or take their first plunge) with people they know. A common saying around here is "Make friends of swingers, not swingers of friends". So, if you choose not to go with the ex-husband, I'd recommend not going with a friend either. Also consider; how do you break things off with the ex-husband if it's not working out? That stands the potential to get messy. Same goes for a friend. Let me make a plug for single males in the lifestyle as an alternative... One of the great pleasures of the lifestyle is getting to have sex with new people. Having sex with an ex-husband won't be anywhere near as erotic or, I think, fulfilling. Your wife will know what to expect, how he will be. A new guy brings with him the newness that can make it so exciting. Everything will be a first time with him. Singles guys in the lifestyle on a swingers site know the deal. Non-swinging males don't. Swinger males know they are a temporary addition to the bedroom. They won't disrespect you, the husband, and think you're an idiot for letting your incredible wife have sex with other men. There are stories we hear occasionally of people trying to pick up vanilla guys and running into trouble. Don't get me wrong; that can work to be sure. But, single guys who self-select into the lifestyle know their place. Single guys in the lifestyle, unlike friends or past boyfriends/husbands, don't risk your personal choices being known to the rest of your family/social circle. Approaching an ex-husband or friend with this idea can turn whatever relationship you have with that person absolutely sour. Are you ready to risk that? A single guy in the lifestyle doesn't bring such potentially bad consequences. Single guys in the lifestyle can bring new techniques and ways to please your wife that her ex-husband never did. There's nothing new the ex-husband can bring to the table. A new single guy could make your wife's toes curl...literally. I've seen his happen with my wife. If things aren't good with a single guy in the lifestyle, you just move onto the next. You thank them for their time and evening, and you move on. No mess. We often say here that the supply of single guys in the lifestyle far outstrips demand. This is true. But, some significant filtering is required. If you set up a profile on a swingers site (like, swinglifestyle.com for example) and indicate you are looking for single males, you will get a lot of contacts. There's a way to pre-filter them. Put something in your profile, fairly buried in it, that asks would-be contacts to let you know they read your profile fully. For example, "If you've read this far, tell us in your email to us if you like dogs or not". Something innocuous. If in their reply to you, they don't say anything about dogs, you know they didn't read your profile. Next. There's other ways too; if their profile pics are all dick pics, probably not the right guy. If their profile is two or three short sentences long, probably not the right guy. If their profile gives any indication they might be cheating (only available certain times, days, etc), probably not the right guy. Etc. Do that, and you stand a good chance of filtering out the bad ones, leaving a pretty good set of potentially great guys. My wife and I have engaged in many MFMs in the 14 years (!) we've now been in the lifestyle. They are truly a pleasure and delight. We've run into some flakes and duds, but there was never really a bad experience, once we got to the bedroom. Some experiences were better than others (that's true in vanilla dating too), but nothing was ever really bad. You can take the time to get to know a single guy. You don't have to go from "Let's meet" to "Let's screw" in 30 minutes. Go out for casual drinks or dinner. Let them know beforehand that you don't play on the first meet-and-greet. If the single male in question isn't comfortable with that, that's fine; they just saved you time by de-selecting themselves. It might seem a bit frightening/daunting to go with a single guy that you don't know. But, I can assure you it is a great experience, if you take some/all of the advice above.

American Taliban. Your right to swing is on the chopping block.

One solid sex strike might resolve the issue. Could lead to equal rights for LGBTQ, also.

Over the top? In 1975, the women of Iceland went on strike for equal rights. 90% of women walked off their jobs and homes, shutting down the entire country. The men could barely cope. Five years later, Iceland elected their first female president. Now Iceland has the highest gender equality in the world. In the USA, 80% of Americans support the woman’s right to choose. It’s fair to say that at least 80% (if not more) of women feel this way as well. They could easily be heard just like the women of Iceland nearly 50 years ago. The clergy, politicians and judges think they hold all the power when in fact the people do if they choose to use it.

I agree with Gold sorta, keeping the child would not be a question of whose it was, but rather if we were capable and ready to rasie a child. If not abortion would be considered. No where does the constitution say that "women" are created equal - run that up the flag pole. I wonder if the bigger issue here is that we, as citizens, don't feel like the system is representative of us. We don't trust states to be fair, impartial and representative. We don't trust the government to be fair and representative. We now are questioning whether the Supreme Court is fair, non-political-impartial and representative. The system is built upon the idea of majority rule, yet after decades of politicians and lawyers screwing around many do not feel it's so. Add to that, folks working to use the constitution and the legal system to legislate moral and ethical behavior and we have a problem. There will NEVER be an answer to whether abortion is right or wrong. There can only be opinions and preferences based on our personal feelings. What the courts can do is to look at the constitution to determine if one person moral code violates another's rights under the constitution. But that is no longer how this works. the law has become a game of words and dancing around. I actually think these issues are much easier to adjudicate, but due to politics, etc have become mired in legal mumbo jumbo. The courts and the politicians have gotten what they have created. An electorate that believes their wishes, moral codes, ethics should be hoisted upon others. I actually think these issues are a lot simpler. The constitution is the foundation, everything comes off of that. Are all men and women created equal. The court says yes. and that is pretty well spelled out in the constitution. so, any law that violates that, needs to be one that improves upon that and benefits the greater good.

Roe stood as precedent for 49 years. It was affirmed in the Casey case in 1992. The right to privacy theory arose from several cases like Griswold and Loving and it was supported by a majority of the court since the 1960s. You and Judge Alito may disparage it, but I think that the majority of Americans enjoy their right to privacy.

If your curious, then the next step is to give it a try. Just be sure to agree what you will and won't do and that if things don't click for either of you it's alwayus ok to make your excuses and go home. Some like us take to it like a duck to water and other don't. Good luck.

Combination pill hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Progestin-only pill hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Hormonal IUD hormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Copper IUD nonhormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Implant hormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Depo-Provera shot hormonal prescription-only about 6 in 100 users become pregnant Patch hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant NuvaRing hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant External condom nonhormonal barrier method over the counter (OTC) about 18 in 100 users become pregnant Internal condom nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 21 in 100 users become pregnant Diaphram nonhormonal barrier method prescription-only roughly 12–29 in 100 users become pregnant Cervical cap nonhormonal barrier method prescription-only roughly 12–29 in 100 users become pregnant Sponge nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Spermicide nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 28 in 100 users become pregnant Fertility awareness methods nonhormonal need an OTC basal body temperature thermometer around 24 in 100 users become pregnant Pull out method/withdrawal nonhormonal N/A around 22 in 100 users become pregnant Breastfeeding or chestfeeding hormonal N/A around 74 in 100 users become pregnant Tubal ligation sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 200 users become pregnant Tubal occlusion sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 200 users become pregnant Vasectomy sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant

Is this still true? or any other recommendations from anyone? We are about to begin traveling again together.

I’d love to give it a go with the real deal, with all the sex I have had it has never happened, never worked out that way. I can seeing it happen but I’d probably have to find specific men for it after all the others. For example, when we have group sex everyone is totally spent by the time I would be able to handle it. I can handle and oh so love DP vaginal & anal – Oh my goodness talk about the most amazing orgasms! I agree with others posts here, the reason for the DP vaginal would be because I am all stretched out worked out but somehow still super turned on and wanting more. Based on experience everyone else would be done for, so two new very long but thin penises would have to be introduced. I’m game for fresh meat. My husband has needed a PPA that was larger to fulfill me, and he has added a toy in along with his penis but for two live real deals the logistics would have to be right to make it work well and e worth for it for all parties. It certainly would be fun trying.

You sir are a GOOD Man! You get IT!!! 👍

Let this sink in ladies… Whether you believe in abortion or not; you do not have autonomy over your own bodies. And, you will not have autonomy over your own bodies until you stand up. Many men will stand with you, but you must stand up. Shut this fucked-up country down if you need to; but be heard. You have the power to fix this.

In the 60s and 70s, there were state laws against homosexuality, interracial marriage, contraception and, as stated above, contraception education. A series of Supreme Court cases that recognized a constitutional right to privacy made these state laws unconstitutional. If the leaked Alito decision is issued, there will no longer be a federally recognized right to privacy. I think Americans can name the states that will reinstitute the laws mentioned above. Sad to say, in my opinion, this country is regressing in terms of freedom, self-determination and self actualization.

Wow! 🙄 Politics, at its most basic, affects how members of a polity in a fundamental sense live their lives. Regardless of one’s views on the subject of abortion, yes, this is a political subject; and one that has huge prospective impact on how Americans conduct their sexual lives. As this is a group organized around that very subject, the upcoming Supreme Court decision is totally germane. But Justice Alito’s draft, if it does indeed represent the essence of the forthcoming decision, will have impact on subjects of importance potentially to all Americans whose sexuality and sexual behavior is outside narrowly-defined limits. The core of Alito’s draft is that there is no "penumbra" in the Constitution. That notion of implied rather than specifically enumerated rights in the Constitution what, provided for the idea of a guaranteed individual right to privacy that ensured that people enjoyed within fairly broad limits the ability to conduct their personal lives as they see fit. All of us here on the Swingersboard count on that Constitutionally guaranteed right of privacy. In the mid’60s, when I was in college in Massachusetts, it was a felony, punishable my several years in prison, to provide birth-control information. Not birth-control devices or medications, just advice. In “Griswold" the Supreme Court, under the theory that the Constitution’s penumbra guaranteed privacy, invalidated that Massachusetts law and all other similar ones in any of the 49 other states. Do you enjoy performing or receiving oral sex? That was against the law in a number of states, even when practiced by straight people within a marital relationship. The same with anal sex. Fuck your wife in the ass and if a vice cop was peering in your window you could go to prison for years. Sure, these laws were mostly enforced against gay people, but sometimes against others. "Griswold" led to the end of those laws that severely regulated people’s sexual lives. The current Mississippi case, if Alito’s opinion is the Court’s, will permit states and localities to enact laws that will criminalize the behavior that most of us on this board highly value. (We don’t even need to get into anti-miscegenation laws, which the Supreme Court forbid under the apparently soon to be extinct theory of Constitutionally guarantee of privacy.)

The OP did not argue in favor of or against abortion. He simply raised the issue that accidental pregnancies arise in swinging and if abortion is illegal, that is a risk in swinging that is more hazardous than it was in the last 49 years.

I completely agree. We're on the side of 'pretty much anything goes'.

I am a bit surprised at how many people call this disgusting. gross, and should not be tolerated at group events. When did swinging become so territorial? When did we decide that activities can only occur that turn us on, otherwise it should not be allowed. That is not the way it used to be. Swingers used to be more open to allowing people to enjoy themselves. I see a real close mindedness here.

Great topic! Still hot over 15 years later! I felt embarrassed that I clicked "hot" on nearly all of the posts. We don't currently have sex with others, but I find myself licking her out after I come inside her. I understand the almost instantaneous waning of desire to "clean up" after one has already come. That's why it would be so exciting to lick up the other guys semen while you, the husband, are still at full attention and hot to trot! Then add your own cum to the mix... Repeat as necessary!

A woman who makes love to your cock

Great to hear you both love sex and keep active, love hearing about this! We have similar fantasy's very hot sex after my wife has been with another man, I love eating her cum filled pussy too.

GREAT topic!! Yes, I love my wife, Kaye, to have 2 or more of her BFs cum in her mouth & cunt & then I get to kiss her & suck all of the cum out of her swollen pussy, which I consider a n honor!! My wife is now 70 years old & is still quite sexy. Her medium sized breasts do not sag much & her dime sized nipples are as sexy as ever. Her blonde cunt is as furry as ever. I only find hairy ones at all sexy. Kaye doesn't shave it either. Love to watch a guy slide out of her followed by a river of cum for me to clean up followed by her giving me an open mouth filled with cum. WOW , what an experience! Keep ou with such topics. Tom S.

After a years long drought we are going to be doing this on Friday. Have a guy we've been talking to for months. We both got tested. So we're ready to go bareback. Going to set it up as an anonymous scene even though we've vetted him. She'll be blindfolded and restrained like she likes. He'll come in and have his way with her and I'll film/join/clean up.

1) no idea 2) maybe 1/3 of the time 3) I know of some let downs yes, but also some surprises where I've suggested it and the guys we're not expecting it. In my experiences with sessions involving multiple men, in all cases they take it in turns, or one finishes and another moves in, sometimes changing holes. In 90% of cases I get spit roasted. A third of the time there's DP. On rare occasions I've been airtight.

I've been in many MFM situations and not one of them resulted in DVP or DP (with anal). I did fuck and suck cocks together, but I don't view that as DP. So - in my experience, never.

My wife and I have been playing MFM or MMMFM for many years and I would say that it happened a lot of times, mostly in Clubs, but this may not be common to every woman because mine loves anal, so she really enjoys DP. Sometimes we went into a group room with up to 4 or 5 other guys and she outperforms all of them on this sense. We have a long-standing friend who is our more frequent partner and since he is long and thin it is perfect for DPs, in her opinion, and every time we get together we DP'ed her.

It's happened at most of our MMF, but that's because I really enjoy it and it's a primary reason for us to do MMF!

Most every time she has MFM or more she wants DP vaginal. Its one of the main reasons she enjoys MFM.

I cannot figure out the percentage but I (Mrs) had a DP on my second MFM. I watched some porn flicks that have DP and I always enjoy some clips with DP so I tell my husband we should try DP. I tried with my hubby and toys but not the same as 2 persons Usually my husband is the "smaller" one so he would do anal while other do vaginal. It is quite an experience!!!

Hopefully every time. I'd DP or DVP every single day of the year if I could.

Not easy to do. We (guys) cum too fast. Wife is not happy. Lol.

It's not as common as you might think. But in my case, if I am really horny and a bit tipsy, it happens all the time. I enjoy anal sex to begin with and can handle really big ones in my ass almost better than in my vagina. Not to say I don't like a big dick in my pussy, but extra large have to go in my ass.

After playing with a great single guy two different times last night my wife did double vag for first time. She loved it! So might become a expected from her.

I love doing mfm's, and especially when the two guys do a DP on me. My orgasms are much more intense with one guy in my pussy and the other guy in my ass, that why I always get DP. It also an ego boast to know I can handle two guys at the same time.

The Mrs wants to try DP, so I'm pretty much sure that when we have a MFM this will probably be considered. I think it will be lots of fun and exciting for the both of us.

DP (anal/vaginal) is the most amazing experience I have had in swinging, but it happens rarely. For me, only once. I have made it my goal to achieve it on several club nights where single males were in attendance, but it turns out that it is surprisingly difficult for both guys to stay hard long enough to get in position and do their work. The one time we did achieve success I heard back later from the (young, athletic) single guy who was at my back that people who saw us that night in the orgy room were mighty impressed. Other nights I have tried to organize a "team" but it doesn't completely work out. We have incredible fun trying, though! Lots of laughter. I think of DP as a journey more than as a destination.

I think people assume DP's started with porno movies but I really feel they started with swingers! I haven't tried many but when I have, I have enjoyed them. The first one was years ago when the wife half of the couple needed a break but me and the two husbands were still ready to go at it. The wife suggested a DP and the men were like YEAHHHH!!!! I laughed and said ok I'm game. So it was my hubby in my ass while the other husband was in my pussy. It went well and the other wife was big time turned on by us as well.

So I would say that it isn't something that happens all the time. But I find it to be a real treat and love having it whenever the MM part of the MFM are up to it. I agree with some of the other posters. It takes some work. It takes the right size cocks, right guys who are comfortable having their balls rubbing together, and the right mood for me. But when it all works, wow!! I love it.

This is a political discussion and not really appropriate for this board.