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2 pointsWe used the lube launcher at home and it was way more comfortable and messy but so what. On a funny note I wrote someone privately and now I’ll share. Preparing for our first use of the launcher my wonderful sweet terrific hilarious husband launched the lube in my butt. Not wanting to waste I let him make use of something we hardly ever do.
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2 pointsFor us we have an issue with someone thinking negative of a woman when she has had lots of guys. Why is she considered a slut but a guy would be a stud or a player. If you are in the lifestyle then sex is your hobby. It’s what you and your spouse do for fun. If y’all fished together would anyone be worried about the amount of fish you caught or that y’all spent your life doing your hobby together? “Get those numbers up there!!!”
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1 pointSo I stopped talking about the number of Guys I've had sex with a long time ago as it tends to shock people. So this is a two part question. How many men can a woman sleep with before she is considered a slut? What is the number of men that a woman could sleep with that would shock you or make you reconsider playing with her?
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1 pointExactly/ my wife and I play a lot, we are always trying to up the numbers. Sex is a hobby and we love it!!
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1 pointMakes me think of "Zorry, the Gay Blade"; Florinda: Do you realize… that we only make love 12 times a year? Don Diego: Once a month is not too bad! Florinda: I mean, 12 times in one night! And then, for the rest of the year — nothing!
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1 pointWoody Allen, in one of his movies, said he could make love up to one time per night.
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1 pointWe had three couples over for the weekend – wahoooo! It was a fun naked weekend. We have this amazing upper sun room on the east side of the house that no one can see into, or so we thought. A new young couple moved in about 7 months ago. They are a fun couple and I’ve become good friends with the wife. She is how I found out about their attic window. Her husband discovered it Saturday while up cleaning an area for a writing area. He is an amateur writer. After taking off all the weather insulation, cleaning it, oiling the tracks, the window opens. You can see and hear everything going on in our so called private sun room. So this is how she discovered her husband is very interested in bisex. All of us had been going at it since Friday. We wives were taking a break encouraging the men to put on a show for us, which they did. Our neighbor saw it all. His wife climbed up to find him, penis in hand, watching and listening. She said they could hear all the sex talk as well as the groans. She was able to step up on a chair quietly enough to peer over him and see what all the commotion was about. She said she nearly fell. Her husband was jerking off to men sucking cock & F ing each other in the a**. She climbed down walking up behind him reaching around helping him as they listened to the sex. She moved them closer so she could watch with him asking/telling him, he liked this didn’t he. Then asked what he liked the best, the sucking, being sucked, F ing, or the getting F ed in the a** by a real cock? She told me the sucking cock and getting F ed in the a**. He came on their hands and all over his pants. She said they kissed and she went back down the ladder. She sat as he took his time coming down. Calmly they discussed it. It was new to her but not a shock; they play along these lines with strapons. She asked if he wanted to “go there?” He said that’d only ever happen is she was all on board, wanted it to happen, made it happen, it is not something he needed. Today she and I were out on our deck and she told me all. I was embarrassed, apologetic, and concerned. She as okay though didn’t know where to go from here. I asked her where she wanted to go; her husband had left it up to her. She told me she was going to have to investigate it more but at least she knew. She appeared collected.
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1 pointCombination pill hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Progestin-only pill hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Hormonal IUD hormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Copper IUD nonhormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Implant hormonal prescription-only fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant Depo-Provera shot hormonal prescription-only about 6 in 100 users become pregnant Patch hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant NuvaRing hormonal prescription-only about 9 in 100 users become pregnant External condom nonhormonal barrier method over the counter (OTC) about 18 in 100 users become pregnant Internal condom nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 21 in 100 users become pregnant Diaphram nonhormonal barrier method prescription-only roughly 12–29 in 100 users become pregnant Cervical cap nonhormonal barrier method prescription-only roughly 12–29 in 100 users become pregnant Sponge nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 9 in 100 users become pregnant Spermicide nonhormonal barrier method OTC about 28 in 100 users become pregnant Fertility awareness methods nonhormonal need an OTC basal body temperature thermometer around 24 in 100 users become pregnant Pull out method/withdrawal nonhormonal N/A around 22 in 100 users become pregnant Breastfeeding or chestfeeding hormonal N/A around 74 in 100 users become pregnant Tubal ligation sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 200 users become pregnant Tubal occlusion sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 200 users become pregnant Vasectomy sterilization surgical procedure fewer than 1 in 100 users become pregnant
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1 pointIs the “sperm donor” on the hook for child support?
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1 pointThis is where the discussion will go off the rails (not here, in general). Is this something the states should decide or settled at the federal level. In the 50 years since Roe v Wade was decided, why wasn't it codified by the federal government if it was so important? It is no secret that politicians on one side wanted the decision overturned. Maybe, maybe not. I have a hard time believing that states will enact laws so far outside the norm like you suggested (e.g. criminalizing sexual acts). This doesn't mean the Supreme Court should expand their rulings beyond what the Constitution says. The whole point of the Supreme Court is to ensure the Constitution is followed. I do have a concern if Roe v Wade is reversed and how exponentially more fractured America will become.
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My wife and I met in college and have been married for almost 22 years. When we met I was the most jealous person you could possibly be and that continued up until our second or third year of marriage. I slowly started to notice I was aroused about the thought of her being a hotwife. Like others, she was totally against the idea but after seeing I was real, started warming up slowly, and I mean slowly, over the years. During my first deployment, she would role play some and very little online, but never any physical play. In fact my sex drive was at least three times than hers. When I came back home, she and I did a live Webcam and I was so turned on seeing all the attention she was getting. I was deployed again and still had this fetish strong. She found an old college buddy to soft play with. I called home and she told me about him and it drove us wild. Then she had an old friend that she gave a blow job to and some heavy flirting along with a small lesbian experience. She had no interest in anyone she didn't know or feel she had a connection with and I was just happy to get what I could. About another year and half things picked up steam again and she had an old friend she was hanging out with. They ending up messing around twice, and she actually had sex with him once. I was very aroused and couldn't believe after seven years of marriage, it finally happened. Things then got complicated mostly from me and her inexperience. She was trying to live out my fantasy and I wasn't very clear in what I wanted. Like an idiot would get mad thinking she was hiding things from me, when in fact I was supposed to find out that way. She let him get into her heart and mind more than she should have. I did more damage to a very good wife. She was only doing what I asked and doing it the best she could. Then she started feeling like she was used by this guy and the relationship between the two of them crumbled. I was so into the hotwife idea, I didn't realize how I was pushing her to talk about a painful experience until one night I pushed too far and made her feel like her telling me about it was more important than her feelings and thus starting a string of events that almost completely destroyed us. For the next three years, she still stayed with me, but we were far from good. Some days she would be ok, and others she couldn't look at me. There would be a few good days but I broke a good women. I couldn't fix it and thought we were going to split. One day things started to thaw and we started having a relationship once more. I never brought my fantasy up again and thought it was dead in the water. We had an anniversary and it went really well and when I got home after a four week business trip, I saw her miss me for the first time. I was relieved and even thought I still ran the thought through my head, never dared mention it at all. Unknown to me, she started a friendship with a male friend and became very attached to him. They had dinner together and she even kissed him, nothing more up to that point. I did find something on the computer, one blog she wrote that talked a little about it and didn't care if found out. I was floored but truthfully, I liked the idea. It was probably a month or two later we were having foreplay and she started hinting about it. She wasn't sure how I would take it since she was so hard on me about about the mistakes of the last time playing. She started hinting trying to get me to bring it up by asking what biggest fantasy was. I knew what she was getting at and finally I told her to have someone else touch you. We had the most incredible raw sex in years and all of a sudden we had passion too. She told me about her friend and we were having more sex than ever. We did it on trampolines, in my truck, and anywhere else we could. Marriage was good and exciting as it could be. She went to her friend's house a couple of times and gave him blowjobs before coming home and telling me. We would have mind-blowing sex. Her relationship with him dried up, but as soon as it did, a new friend was there to take his place. This was a game changer. He lived in another state. They chatted all the time, had phone sex, exchanged pictures and were really into each other. She planned a trip with him and they stayed a short distance from the house in a hotel, it was hot as hell to me. She went to his house a few times and ending up having sex probably five or six times after that. We took all our lessons from the bad experience and this one never has had any issues. The only thing she was comfortable doing was going solo and coming home to tell me. This went on about once a year for few years. She had an another old friend and went to stay with him for a few days where they had sex. There was a friend that came to see her and they stayed in a hotel here and had sex. Another friend from her hometown she only done soft play with. All these were fun but she didn't like the feeling she felt by telling me and I wanted so bad to watch it. She just had a trip to her hometown and met one of her fiends. They didn't do anything but talk, but when she got home, we had sex three times and sat up all night. We started discussing swing clubs and how fun they would be. She agreed to go and I found one and that is when a sexual awakening happened to her. I set up the account and thought we would probably go and if I was lucky I could watch her dance with someone and we talked about her kissing someone else. To my surprise, she took over from there, chatting and setting this up. She bought a short dress that a friend from the community helped her pick out. She was as hot as ever and we couldn't stop thinking about it She had never been as high sex drive as I am. In fact we would go two months with no sex and never more than twice a week. Since we had this conversation ten days ago, we have so much sex, we are both raw. It was so hot. We made it to the club and meet up with a single guy and a couple. The couple was nice but it fizzled out some. We took to the single guy and he danced with her, I danced with her, and at times we both danced and grinded on her. I thought this was going to be it, but was I ever wrong. I looked over and saw her deep kissing him and when we went to a place for privacy, she straddled him in her dress and they were making out. As he was eating her, she took my hands and rubbed them on her tits. Then I rubbed her clit and he fingered her. She even wanted me to hold her hair as she gave him a blowjob. I was in heaven and it was exactly how I thought it would be. No penetration that night, but it was the hottest thing I ever was involved in. We came home and had sex twice and every chance we can since. That was five days ago. She has found another couple we are going to meet tomorrow for dinner. We don't know how far it will lead but she and I are so excited. She even thinks things may happen and says she may want me to play with the other women. Not to mention, we are going to have a mfm with the guy from the club very soon. She had never been as high sex drive as I am. In fact we would go two months with no sex and never more than twice a week. Since we had this conversation ten days ago, we have so much sex, we are both raw. She told me she has never had this high of sex drive. When we aren't together we are masturbating two to three times a day. I have always fantasized about this and it seems like I wrote this script. I cannot not believe how fast it has moved in ten days. She now fantasizes about me watching her again and with another couple. It gets her going as much as it does me. It took twenty years to get to this point. There were a lot of mistakes and failures. We both learned and made the next one better. She is in control now and it is much fun. 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1 pointDon’t ask, Don’t tell. I don’t know if it was a mistake to ask her how many men she has met on different sites. Over the years we kept our separate meetings to ourselves, I never asked. Now that we started talking about it I was wondering what type of men she was meeting so she shared her password with me. Together we logged into her primary account that she used to meet men. We went back six years and figured she met close to 50 men or appropriate 8 a year. It was way more than the numbers in my list of women I met. She allowed me to read the back and forth with the men which I found hilarious, I couldn’t believe it was the same woman. She told me the most men she dated at the same time was 3, and did meet 2 of them on the same day.
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1 pointThis isn't my original thought (I read it elsewhere) but I agree with it: why does the number of different sex partners that a woman has had matter more than the total amount of sex that she's had? Why is a woman who has had tame sex 1000 times with 150 different men over a fifteen year sex life deemed more sexually experienced than a married woman who has had kinky sex with one man 100,000 times in the same fifteen years? What about the woman who has had sex only 1000 times and only with two men, but frequently had threesomes with them. All this name calling is stupid.
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1 pointSame with me and another wife in our group. We share a number of common interests that we don't with our spouses. We travel out-of-town together to pursue those. It's an odd advantage of being swingers with them, there's the freedom to be alone with someone of the opposite sex who is not my spouse, because what could happen? Sex? We already do that in front of ech other.
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1 pointYou are fine I would love to be counted.
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1 pointI absolutely love this idea. I've put in the effort lol.
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1 pointBeing in the ls we don’t care about your number. If your down to swing then let’s swing and have a good old time. The only thing we are going to ask is are you clean and hard drug free also sober enough to make for consent. We are all hear for sex and having fun. If a number turns ya off in the lifestyle then your asking the wrong question.
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1 pointNotice to "Sluts": For every man who disdains you, there are five guys who want to eat your pussy.
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1 pointSo becoming a sex expert either takes a bunch of different partners or just one really devoted training partner (and lots of lotion and lube to help with all the friction involved). If you want to be the best, you have to put in the effort! Finally: Anyone really asking where the number is going to make a difference to how they think of you isn't worth knowing.
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1 pointIt's also a really meaningless way to interpret a woman's sex life, everybody goes through different "seasons". I've known a number of women who enthusiastically went through dozens of men in their dorms, then settled down into stable monogamous married life like nothing ever happened. On the other hand, Mrs. E has fucked more men during her second marriage than she did before her first. The single woman we've played with for a while jumped on all the dating sites after her divorce, and it wasn't because she was trying to land a new husband. People's circumstances change their confidence, openness, and needs, and so do our ideas about what's permissible - and how much people lie during or after as a result. It used to be widely assumed that a single woman was not having sex, and now it's widely assumed that a single woman is probably having more sex than a woman who has been in a committed, exclusive relationship for years. Either of those assumptions can turn out to be way off.
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1 pointJessiaca wrote"What is the number of men that a woman could sleep with that would shock you or make you reconsider playing with her? " Their once was a Lady who intimidated me because of her 'score". Finally screwed up the courage to place myself in comparison to all the others. We have truly struck up a relationship which is a love relationship. One which is supported by both my wife and her husband. That is , by the way one of the things that I am very thankful for this Thanksgiving Day. Not saying I am the best. From what she tells me there are some who were spectacular. We just click.
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1 pointI have my Catholic upbringing that still has its effect on me. One time as Clair and I decided to have sex with Red, she took off her clothes and spread her labia for Red, asking him, "Do you know what this is for?" It was a stupidly simple question with an obvious answer, but I thought "yeah, that's what it's for."
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1 pointIf women are promiscuous, they are called a slut. Men are called studs. I praise women who celebrate their sexuality. They are fully embracing life. No shame about it. Go for it!
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1 pointAnd it proves the point - you are a perfectly fine person, wife. The word has not only lost its sting, it has lost its meaning.
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1 pointI guess as swingers....living the lifestyle....the question is mute. Sex play is desired, anticipated......and happens regularly. Attitude....personality is probably more key. If someone has issue cause that person fucks too much.....they’re in the wrong lifestyle.
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1 pointAfter 100, stop counting.
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1 pointWell I also believe in most definitely having a blast, often. I've lived by that mantra since I was a teenager.
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1 pointOver the years I have always treated women with respect, if they wanted to be treated like a queen or a slut I would treat them as such. I have seen many classy women turn into wanton sluts at a party, when all Their inhibitions would disappear. We have left parties when guys would call my wife a slut or tramp type words. now maybe some late nights they would be.
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1 pointI do know at one party, my wife fucked 12 different guys, including me, a total of 15 times. She had a blast
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1 pointI agree I have been called a slut since I was 13 and it has definitely lost its sting. And thanks this is my "hit them in the face with the obvious" pillow. ??
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1 pointWell shit that ratio sucks
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1 pointSame for me/us except for a shower and some antibacterial soap.
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1 pointWhile I agree that there are slutty acts, society labels promiscuous behavior as slutty. The thing that made me laugh as I read that was that I do not have a lot of "absolute no's" in my sexual library, I've tried most things, and I have found a level of enjoyment in most activities, but I have two "not gonna happen" items on my list, and both involve things that were in my ass going in my mouth lol. I'm a hard no on that so get your blowjobs and pussy up front cause once that dick has been in my ass it ain't going anyplace but in my ass. So the anal is last no exceptions. Now I do plenty of other really slutty things though.
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1 pointSusan, and btw I loved the introduction with the great photo of you two, I had to smile when I read this. My first thought was that a guy really is a bit bi if he licks your pussy after another was cumming in it! Now, that's the best way!
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1 pointThere are things that Bi men can do to me, that straight men can't. I think you have to be a bit Bi to lick my pussy while another is cumming inside me. Just a thought.
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1 pointMy wife loves to watch me suck a nice hard cock. Sometimes I keep a load in my mouth and give it to her! She gets hot and very wet!
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1 pointMy wife encouraged and enjoys my bi-side. If I tell her we are meeting someone new, her first question is he bi? She loves to watch me and will hold his cock for me to suck or take pics of us together. So much nicer when every one is on the same page...LOL
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1 pointI first started exploring my bi-sexual side with my ex-wife. I was in my mid-twenties and we had just gotten into the swinging scene and very much enjoyed MFM threesomes. The first time I sucked another mans cock was after he 'slipped out' of her while she was on her back and I was licking her clit, actually (as I said in a previous post) I was 'down there' so I could be close to his cock to see what it was like. When he 'popped out' I took advantage of the moment and sucked on the head of his cock for a few moments before guiding him back into her. Later that night he knelt on the bed while I sucked him and my wife sucked me. After that night every time we had another man in our room she wanted to watch me blow them and would get so turned on watching me.
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1 pointNot at all...in fact it was quite the opposite and dare I say this, I was so proud of him. I loved watching him go down on the other guy and experience what I adore about going down on a nice cock myself...I can't wait to see it again and if I'm lucky, participate in. :-)
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1 pointI'm not a women but my girl friend at the time of my first m/m experience, really got mad at first. Then when I let him cum in my mouth she really got into the act. She gave me the best fuck she had ever done. guess she was worried I would leave her for a man.
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1 pointSome people have a black and white vision of the world, and cannot grasp that there might be a sliding scale of sexuality. To these people bisexual is a false identity. They think that if you have experiences with people of your own sex you are gay. "You suck cock? You're gay dude, better face it." To them bisexuals are gay but trapped in heterosexual couplings by convention and use swinging and bisexuality to get their fixes of their gayness. All complete horseshit of course. It's all just labels and semantics and my definition of bi isn't the same as yours. Which is the nexus of this thread. I personally feel I'm 80% hetero 20% homo, but that 20 isn't strong enough for me to be physically attracted to men. It is strong enough for me to be open to physical encounters with men, in a group sex situation. I don't see myself ever spending time one-on-one with a man. (but I've learned in life to never say never).
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1 pointMost of the bi men I know in swinging are out there as straight. Why? Because it makes life a hell of a lot easier for them in terms of finding playmates. Way too many ignorant guys I know seem to think that if a guy is bi or bicurious that it means he wont be able to keep his hands off of another guy and therefore wont play with the guy. This is bs. Sadly, swinging is not any more open minded as a whole then society in general is. Yes, we think having sex with other peoples spouses is ok, but outside of that, most swingers have the same issues as everyone else. They are open minded about their "kink" but not really all that open minded about others. Obviously this is a generalization and I know there are exceptions to it. What is amusing is I see the reverse with women. Lots of straight women putting themselves out there as bi simply to make their other half happy. God that is annoying (speaking as a genuinely bi woman who gets frustrated when I find out that the chick is just halfheartedly touching me because her husband thinks its hot). Glad you feel comfortable being out there as bi. Most men in swinging don't. I don't judge them for that, I just feel sad that that needs to be the case.
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1 pointOnce again there is dissatisfaction with the use of labels. Bi is just a label, and means different things to virtually everyone. To you it means being able to have a romantic relationship with both sexes. That is not the most common meaning. To some if you've ever even considered sucking a cock you better label yourself bi. Your use of "rectal ranger" in regards to bi suggests you think bi means anal sex with men. Again that is your interpretation of the label bi. Many, if not most, men who consider themselves bi have not included anal in their male sex. There are gays who also do not include anal sex. There is a sense for some that even oral sex with male does not neccessarily mean you are bi. For them the whole labeling of person because of the sex you and your wife enjoy is silly. Threesomes are hot, and if your wife enjoys having you sucking cock with her, suddenly that puts you in a whole new category of person? You're enjoying sex with your wife, she enjoys sucking cock, so why shouldn't you join her in that enjoyment? Doesn't change the person you are, it merely expands the sex you enjoy with her. For many swingers it is important to know whether a guy has ever sucked a cock or enjoyed any form of sex with a man. This is lumped under the bi label and is considered very important information, and dishonest if that information is not dished out to the general swinging public. Many married "bi" males feel that is private information only relevant to those with whom there is a real potential of sexual congress and not to the general swinging public.
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1 pointMy wife and I generally do mfm threesomes. When we are not enjoying another's company we still like to branch out and try new things. I was always curious with the male g-spot and her finger wasn't cutting it. so she used a strap-on with me and low and behold it worked! we had one male partner we would have a mfm threesome with that was a consistent thing for about 6 or 7 months and we often made accidental contact while trying new positions and there would be the occasional "oops" or "sorry" thrown in there. One night he accidentally made contact and apologized, not a split sec later and my wife replies, "No, don't be, he likes that". He wasn't shocked at all, just asked if I was bi, and I said no not really. She told him about the strap-on and he asked if I had ever been with a man? Obviously saying no, he told me I could touch him if I wished. So I did. The whole thing got out of control. Nothing over rated, just hands and mouth involved. I have had a creampie from my wife before so I don't know why I didn't swallow. I enjoyed myself, just wish I hadn't had done it. But the other part of me thinks about it all the time and my wife asked me if I would go all the way if she was there? I haven't gotten back to her about that. I don't know what to think about all of this. It happened quite a while ago but I could still get in touch with him if need be. What do you think?
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1 pointmrs.fun has had the fantasy but so far that would take a lot of work and planning on my part. Definitely some safety to consider. There are however a couple of organized groups in our area, just hasn't seemed like the right place to be. Still just a fantasy. But we did check into it.
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1 pointWe have done a MMMF gangbang and were considering expanding the number to 6-10 until we actually saw one. A desperate husband rushing around the club trying to recruit other guys for a birthday gangbang just didn't do it for us. They were in the group room and had a couple of women acting as fluffers. It was like watching badly made porn. She was doing two at a time and it just seemed to be more work than fun. We politely declined the offer to join and decided to limit our number to 3 guys (me and two others).
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