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1. You’ve gotten all the photos you’re going to get, DO NOT ask for more, and especially DO NOT ask for nude photos. 2. DO NOT get sexually graphic when communicating with her, she finds it a total turnoff. 3. DO NOT try to meet her alone, that will instantly end our interactions. 4. If we make plans to meet and you don’t show, don’t bother contacting us again. We think they’re all very reasonable and very easy to abide by, but almost as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, guys lose their minds and seemingly go down the checklist.

We usually get together for an evening...dinner, hot tub, sometimes a movie or a concert. Sometimes we play, sometimes we don't. Usually when we play it's about 4 hours and about an hour of playing.

I find this post deeply offensive. Nobody ever wants to talk about the married men that are assholes. The married guys that lack the social skills to communicate with another human being. The lame married guys that feel entitled to do or say what they want because they are married. The married guys that are always looking for someone to fuck without their wife even knowing. The married guys that post pictures of their wives and other women in their family without their consent. The married guys who do not respect other men but expect you to treat them and their wives as some sorta queen. The confused married guys who claim to be cuckold's but secretly want to be dominant and control the whole scenario. The confused married guys that act tough but be all in your DMs asking if they can suck your cock or if you will fuck them. The married guys that are lame as fuck and ride on the coattails of their wife just to give them some status. The married guys that want you to spoil their wife because they cannot. The married guys that pimp their wives out for money because they are not successful themselves. See what Im saying.....I been at this for 20+ years and each one of those descriptions is an example of married guys that I have encountered in the lifestyle. The fact that you would lump all men into the same category when you have not met all men speaks volumes for the type of human that you are. If you are really interested in improving the lifestyle then there are other ways that you can provide feedback to single guys that you feel are problematic. Lets not forget, single men are relevant in the swinging lifestyle because some married men are unable to keep up with their wives sex drive. Plus, when event planners have cash flow problems its normally the single men that make up the difference.

Is male bisexuality trending? Wow, another neighbor came over to talk. She said she had heard a little of a conversation I had on our deck with another friend about her husband coming out about bisexuality. Here I am drinking my tea and up walks Neana from the neighborhood pool. She plops down and lets it all out, "I walk in on my husband taking dildo after dildo up his a**. I watched as he did himself many times, orgasming, cumming, eating, doing himself more working to larger until he took the largest dildo in our arsenal. I'd never seen him do this on his own. As for cum eating, I normally have to fed it to him. I started all of this. I love doing him with my strap ons, taking him, jerking him off, feeding him, and continuing to take him. I guess it makes sense after all this time he'd be into doing it by himself when I'm gone for a few days. I did get home a day early. What got me was when I let him know I had been enjoying the show he glanced at his lap top which led me to look and there it was - guys fing guys and their wives. Bisex couples sex. We swing but he never once expressed an interest in bisex. I asked him and he said, yes he wanted to explore it." I sat, listened, watched. I learn a great deal being quiet and watching. Her eyes were wide, her voice was excited, her body was squirming, her nipples were extremely pronounced, and I swear I smelled a hint of her. She was very aroused. She went on growing more descriptive, darn she had me going. She had her husband do a show and tell, show her and tell her what he wanted to try. Then she asked me how to go about find someone. I smiled taking her by her hand walking her into the house to our sex room and let her watch a recording of us and a few couples going at it on our big screen. This is the third new couple in as many months whose husband has come out. At this rate our group is going to be bigger than precovid. We still have to vet them a bit more but they already want to come over and watch. The first new couple has already gotten naked and touched with us as a few couples played. The second couple is waiting on their tests. It is looking up to be a great summer.

All night. We like to swap with friends in separate rooms and meet up again in the morning. Also spending a vacation with our friends.

I am ranting. I have tried a different site, Feeld. Chatted with a “single male”. He wanted to be sure I understood the “lifestyle.” Yes. After a fair bit of chatting we decided to meet halfway, a little over a 30 minute drive for me. Brief introductions were exchanged and we started talking lifestyle experiences. I asked if he found it challenging as a single male. Then he said he needed to “clarify” so there wouldn’t be any “expectations.” Yes he is married but his wife is blind and they didn’t talk much about his outside activities but she is aware. I needed to clarify if this meant she would be upset by what he was doing. Yes. That’s cheating in my book and I left. My mistake was not confirming his status. I don't have a problem if the other partner is fine with it and have enjoyed meeting the other half in the past. His actions are not ENM at all. He sent some message how everything isn’t black and white. I doubt the wife is so blind she can’t see what an asshole he is. The excuse itself is offensive. I flagged his profile as fake because it is. Some people are okay with cheaters but I am not, won’t knowingly hurt someone else.

Any guy that says he can only meet on weekday afternoons is going to have a hard time finding anyone and is more then likely a cheater! Most of us have jobs and real lives. If a dude can not meet on weekends he is an immediate no.

Thank You All for your responses. We figured out considering 4 to 5hours , an hour or so for meet and greet, dinner drinks at a restaurant. Depending on chemistry moving to a Hotel , get a room etc an hour, warming up would be another 30 minutes, and the actual act for couple of hours , with breaks and conversations in between.

@TnA83 I found below threads Swinging rules for single males - Swinging Solo - Swingers Board What do swingers look for in a single man ? - Curious About Swinging? - Swingers Board My Advice To Single Men - Swinging Solo - Swingers Board I had been very curious about the lifestyle and found the above threads very helpful. (The third thread started great but unfortunately was ruined by the responses back and forth).

Sorry, sometimes the truth is brutally true. We’ve literally given men a checklist of what to NOT do, then they proceed to do every single one. It’s as if they think to themselves “I’m so special, that surely doesn’t apply to me”. 🤦🏻‍♂️

It just depends. We have had hookups at clubs that lasted 15 minutes at most. We've also spent the night with good friends where all evening was sex, take a breather, sex, take a breather, repeat, repeat, until we all finally ran out of steam early in the morning and then have more sex the next morning before saying our goodbyes. Most of the time though, the whole evening is probably 4 hours or so with dinner, drinks, etc. and maybe an hour of that at most is sex.

??? Tis true tis true. I had never asked for this, it sort of happened via finger, then toy, then we did plan it with a strap on, then of course with other people we begin to plan it out. My lady friends tend to be the best at being the 2nd person and planning doesn't normally have to take place, it can simply happen. Men tend to get frustrated, get soft, etc. It takes the well oiled machine of men who know what the heck they are doing along with the right fit, we have to have it worked out ahead of time. Yes it is logistics - lol. Call UPS or Fed Ex to assist with that. Now, as I have stated before, I do love it when done well! For me the orgasms are so off the chart, our sex buddies who are in the stock market wish I were a publicly traded company. Once in a while we have had a guy be able to sneak up while one of us is on top and do a good job backdoor. The multi dual orgasms are incredible for either of us. As I mentioned, it is easier for one of the other ladies to be that the 2nd person in the dp and at this point I don't care who it is. It blows my mind and body! The more we have been able to do it with other men involved, the more comfortable my husband has gotten and the more he has enjoyed it. As MidWestHoneys mentioned, the male contact thing is not a problem whatsoever and then some. Back to the whole asking for it. I do request it now, but a lot more often via strap on, dildo, sex machine, or of course fingers. Two penises are doable but tough to arrange. Sometimes its just better to go with simple though as MidWestHoneys hinted at, it is an incredible visual for others, men in particular.

Honey has been with many single men who just want to fuck. Most men want a woman to enjoy the fuck and get her off. The idiots I have watched her with were when they with other idiots trying to prove something. Honey will do almost anything if the man is not an idiot. She will try any position if you respect her. The idiots would have a better sex time if they show respect.

Swing Clubs can appeal to both widowers and widows who just enjoy some uncomplicated no strings attached sex.

we haven't seen this thread since almost 3 years ago. We tried dvp a couple weekends ago. I am the longer of the two, he is the thicker. We tried with her reverse doggy on me and he tried getting between her legs. It was awkward and almost worked but he couldn't get in and after a few min he went soft. I was rock hard with anticipation. We will definitely try again with him and from what we have read, swap places.

We once visited friends at a vacation home, We separate room swapped. The husband wanted to swap overnight. We were somewhat newbies. The other wife said that’s a bridge too far. I don’t think we wanted to do that, nor would we do it now. Somethings are personal/private (snoring, farting, etc.).

5-20 minutes. Was it good for you?

Her: If it is an overnight thing, we have more than one session. It sort of depends. We love to visit naked. Part of the fun is the verbal play. I think the verbal play is just as much fun.

Most of our gatherings are fairly long. The sex isn't happening the entire time, but we would be together for 4-6 hours and sometimes longer. Often late into the night.

Very nice review. We’ve been to Desire RM and Pearl. In regard to the massage, my wife said “That wasn’t a massage!” The masseuse pushed my tush, which pushed me deeper into my wife. Later, other guests would ask if we had the erotic massage and when we said yes, they’d push our tush.

We've done both DP and DVP several times and are big fans of both. Either configuration can be very intense for all parties once you get a groove and have become a regular part of our play. Our female half may be slightly addicted to DVP.

That's what it sounded like. If you aren't SURE this is what you want to do, then you shouldn't be doing it, and he should be willing to stop and wait until you are sure it is (which might never happen). All the reasons for having an open marriage are HIS reasons, not yours, and he married you knowing what he was getting in advance. If Ms. Gold wasn't interested in swinging, we wouldn't have done it. If she asked that we stop, we would stop, no questions asked. Some people just aren't 'wired' for non-monogamy and there's no way to change that. To be a successful swinger (this includes having an open marriage) your relationship must have an abundance of love, trust, and communication to have a chance. It doesn't sound like your relationship has that (yet) therefore you shouldn't be swinging. On top of that, we STRONGLY advise that you don't swing with vanilla friends since they are usually not ready for the emotions involved, and you are taking the chance that if things go bad, then EVERYONE knows what you are doing in your bedroom...friends, family, co-workers. Sleeping with a close friend of yours is really pushing anyone's limits (we personally think that he went WAY too far with this). You two need to have a serious talk where you ask him to STOP until you have time to figure what you want to do. If he isn't willing to stop, then you know you aren't that important to him. Even if he is, you both need to agree on rules and limits and NEVER violate them...close friends being off limits is one we think you should have. Other rules we have are: No means NO! Stop mean STOP (including stopping swinging if asked) Never move faster than the slowest member is comfortable with Never 'take one for the team' We wish you the best, but are very concerned for you. Let us know how things go. If he loves you, he'll be willing to wait while you decide...knowing that you may never decide to do this.

We're a poly family who hasn't done much swinging, but something similar for hubby and boyfriend Red. Red always wants a girl "fresh" and when he's done ejaculating in her, isn't interested in watching her with another guy and going in for seconds. Hubby OTOH, always wants to go second if he's sharing a woman because he enjoys the show in his excited, pre-cum state and taking a woman sloppy seconds is an ego boosting dominant thing for him. I hope that "one nation, two systems" works out better for you than Hong Kong.

My SO and I invited my bf for a weekend stay. SO unexpectedly walked in on me while doing it with bf. I never expected it would affect him knowing we are already in a poly arrangement for 5+ yrs and we had done swinging together many times.

It used to happen all the time in our poly family (and being walked in on). Would make me jealous, but I loved it. Now with kids the doors are locked.

I've walked in on my wife several times when she was unexpectedly having sex at our house, our bed, actually. The acts that they were involved in, however, wasn't unexpected. Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised, said hello, and told them I'd be in another part of the house and if they needed anything to call me. A couple of times they (my wife and another man, woman, couple) called me for another dick. Had dinner afterwards.

I found that bi intereaction was in closed rooms, and it was just something that happened. It was enjoyable. The only one interaction was a guy who called later and wanted to meet away from the club. We were not interested. We partied at Jerry's and Terry's once, and he is bi, and we explored that. I still wish I could have made him cum. I wanted to taste cum, and never have. There does not seem to be discussion of bi sexuality for the males at clubs in my experience, but perhaps quiet signals. It seems that bi women are a much bigger group of the swing scene than bi men. I am glad, bi women are a lot more sensual and sexual.

We had a fun time with a couple we met at a house party. The next day, we read their profile and discovered that he was bi - not a big deal. He and I didn't interact even though all four of us were busy on the same bed. I don't understand the bi-male phobia - any one "no" is as good as any other and if it's not respected THEN it's time to stop the play.

I will eat cum right from the fountain. Since we started swinging, I have probably finished off more male halfs and swallowed more than she has. So eating creampies out of her are no biggie.

From a female point of view, I have eaten my husbands cum out of another play partner, and loved it, she did as well. Like someone else on here said something very erotic and dirty about it, very much a turn on. facelick