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I over exaggerated about the intended artfulness of any pictures. I'm just looking for good lighting, the proper angle (nothing directly straight on), and properly capturing the entire subject - not only the parted inner labia and the clitoris, but also my outer labia, the entrance to my vagina, and nicely trimmed pubic hair. Thinking about it, this may be more of a challenge than expected.

It didn't go well for Solomon.... King David either. But not just because they had multiple wives.

According to those who have seen my pussy, that would constitute "Personally Identifiable Information." I was going to honor your request, but we don't take porn pictures of each other so there's nothing on file. I tried taking selfies, but it's not as easy as a guy taking a dick pic. They looked like out-of-focus pictures of aliens or swamp creatures (time for a trim). I'll get someone to take a pussy glamor shot later.

So a question for the guys: what better sends the message that a woman is ready to go - flat on her back legs apart, or on her knees head down bum up? My Lesbian side definitely prefers seeing a girl on her back, lips parted, face and breasts visible.

Good plan, Petra. Genital selfies are like doing self surgery — it’s not likely to to go well. And in terms of “glamour” photos — boudoir, nudes or genital portraits — getting good flattering results is challenging. I speak as someone who supported himself as a photographer as an undergraduate and as a doctoral student. Making truly beautiful fine art nudes is tough and years later the few really good ones I’ve made remain a source of pride. As I noted in a post here on the board last year, I had the occasion in early 2020 (just before the pandemic struck) to photograph an orgy for ASM (a Digital lifestyle magazine) and it might have been the toughest challenge of my multi-decade photographic career. That said, I hope that if you follow through on having your pussy photographed, the session will go well. And if you post it here, I look forward to seeing it. 😊

Do you think there is a distinction between the "never had a relationship" types and the "just broke up, between partners" guys?

I posed the question to Debbie with a few additional options. One man, her ménage a Trois with our new friend, our ménage with the wife or our first party with five other couples. Debbie said the party was exhausting and fun. I understand both of those, I wanted to be with all the women c’est la vie. What I wanted and what I could do doesn’t always work. By observation and her report the first for her lasted a half hour with her having a great time before he entered her. I did see her get up to refresh and have some laughs before a second gentleman approached. I didn’t see much of that because of my own play. She later told me that his wife joined them. After that it was break time, the men needed it. It was nice to just talk, drink and laugh and for me rest. I was then approached by a very nice horny woman which left her husband to Debbie, her third. I could tell the booze had gotten to Debbie. They were very close to us and I saw her being very frisky. I have to remember to buy more booze for the house. Four hours into the party our hostess asked Debbie, not me ☹️, as the newest one which men haven’t you been with. Rhetorical, we all knew. Debbie threw the towel in and said she couldn’t. With a bit of coaxing she orally took the fourth and with the help of one of the other women, got the fifth up and in. I was only able to get a bj from a third horny gal. Debbie is having fun

I should have said "the contemporary US evangelical religious proclamation." Your point is a good one. It is what amazed me as a naïve, strictly raised Catholic girl in my early twenties that I could have two men as lovers (who knew about one another) and one married me while the other continues as a lover.

Lovely color scheme and Booty presentation!!

Interesting how Sun and MrDiscover talk about emotional attachment. I initially thought I'm inching toward poly but I really just want sex with the friend. We have some small talk but almost everything we do is sexual. I think my concern is that this is more real than role-playing and is new territory for both myself and Mr. A. When we do cuckold mmf role-play, both Mr. A and I talk and know what we want going into play. But this time, Mr. A wasn't involved. The sex I have with the friend is a far cry from the threesome we had when we all first met. It's rougher now, lots of dirty talking, more intimacy and passion, so I really don't know how Mr. A will react to it. Thanks for the suggestion. Actually he already mentioned he wants to film it or take pictures. The friend is ok with but again it's me being the party-pooper. I can't put my finger on why I don't really want to. It's not like we have never taken pictures during play. I think I just have to relax, let go, and have fun.

I thought the post would go to you confessing you had grown more feelings for the friend than just a fwb, but that seems not to be the case. I think just the fact that you felt safe to call A and tell everything speaks all. He was and is ok with it and supportive so I don't see a reason to feel guilty. But a unreasonable feeling can rear it's ugly head every now and then, of course. :-) MrDiscover

And I loved it! I can't wait to do more couples! I can't believe I waited this long. One of my favorite parts was the wife and I both sucking on her husband's cock then stuffing my face inbetween his legs while she feasted on me. I can't believe how great it feels. Why didn't anybody tell me it was going to be this great? I don't know what I would do if I had to go on without this lifestyle.

Thank you everybody for your encouragement! I probably shouldn't have said I can't wait to do more couples as if I were to have new lovers every night. In fact I have been seeing this one couple when our scheduling permits. Last Friday we met for the second time and this time I got to eat her out! I never dreamed of eating another woman's pussy but now I don't think I could get enough. I now know what guys mean when they say they could eat them for hours. What fun!

Hey, we weren't sure were to post this, but since we are new to it I just thought that I would post it here. Alright, everything is going GRRREAT!!! It kinda like having a new toy!!! Can't wait to play again..lol Well for the past 2 weeks, everything has just fell into place. Its weird, because we are so much alike. We are all very open and we all communicate, which I think makes things that much better. Lets start with me and T. We both have a very strong sex drive and we are very much attracted to each other, both sexually and I guess you caould say friendshipwise... we both enjoy our time together, and we talk very well, almost better than the wife and I. We have a strong connection between us. The wife and G, are pretty much alike as well, that have s good connection between them, and pretty much see eye to eye in the bedroom. We talk to them on a daily bases and we are planning a long weekend away, this weekend. Both of us (couples) have become closer with our own spouses, and we have spent good quaility time with each other. I could be wrong, but I believe that this is what the "lifestyle" is all about. Too bring esch other closer. We have found out that, we can have fun and still have each other, in and out of the bedroom... which we have also learned alot about that as well. Some of the things that my wife may not enjoy with me (I am very Blessed down there) she can enjoy now, without the pain, and without being wore out. The same is true with me, I have found someone who is just as crazy as I am, and since we have the same drive, we can go 5-6 times longer than we could with our own spouses, there for we can get the most enjoyment out of it, before return to our spouses. Neither couple has had one complaint, granted we are still in the learning phase, and that we take time... I think that the wife summed it up pretty good the other day... it kinda like dating, in high school ( but with out the jealousy), you meet someone and everything clicks and you can wait until you see them again. That about what it feels like. The wife and I just celebrated our 8 years of marriage yesterday, and we are closer now than we have ever been and we found out how much we are still in love with each other. We believe that this was one of the best choices that we have ever made together, and we are hoping that this turns out to be a very long lasting freindship with the other couple. By the way, snd this is a mutual thought... us and them... we are no longer looking for anyone to play. Thats how well everything is going.... CJ

Not sure where I should start from... G and T are a str8 couple as are we... OK, we have broke into NEW territory. We were to met up with G and T Saturday night, but it was late, like 10pm, before we got to there house, because of work. The plans were to sit around drink a few beers and get to know each other, and just talk and have a good time. Nothing had prepared us for what we were about to step into. Well as most may know, Tuesday T had surgery, and therfor the reason to met at there house. Well shes up there in the bedroom, where she has been all week, so not much thought was put into the idea that we would be sitting up the in the bed room all night. It made sense to us. Since she wasn't supose to be climbing down the 18 stairs. So here we all are, me and my wife, along with T sitting on the bed, while her husband G is sitting in the chair next to the bed. Granted, this is our first meeting, but we have so much in common that we felt like we've known each other for years. We have chatted and talked on the phone, and we have even made plans for dinner on night, so saturday when G invited us over, we thought that this would be just a casual house call, more less just to drink a few beers, and chit chat. Well, those few beers turned in to a case, and beforewe knew it it was already like 3am. My orginal plans were to drink a beer or 2, but here I am siping on #8 (it could have been #10). Hell, I still haven't even gotten a good buzz going, but i think that was because of nerves and nothing else. Anyway, the wife doesn't drink beer so shes been sipping on some Coolers or something like that. Well, anyway with the beers that were consumed by me and the drinks that the wife had, G said "look no point in taking a chance driving home (40 minutes away), that we should just stay there." Well, he was right and we should not drive, wether I'm buzzing or not. It just isn't safe. They have a huge bed, easily all four of us had plenty of room. (we could have added two more couple to it, it was that big). Well as soon as the light went out...Things got really interesting.... First, here's the lay out... T, me, my wife , and G, so we are in the middle. we didn't give much thought of stripping down to our underwear, I mean hell we were going to go to sleep, considering that we had to be 380 miles away at 1pm that afternoon, plus don't play alone, and since T just had surgery, she wasn't supose to play for at least 3-6 weeks. Boy were we wrong... As soon as the covers were pulled up, I felt something strange, T was completely nude, not to mention that she had just grabbed a handful of my manly hood and was rubbing it up against her privates...OMG!! The wife and I have not spoken of how we would handle this, it was never contimplated, I mean this was our first meeting. and here we are drinking the night away and all 4 of us laid up in bed. The wife and I had spoken of the what if's, and that was supose to be weeks down the road. OMG!!! is this happening Now??? about that time I set up to make some adjustment about the same time the wife sat up, we looked at each other and off came our clothes, and with a quick kiss to each other, we quickly returned to our postitions, and followed there lead... The night was unbelievable, and shocking as well, for over 2 hours we had sex, but unlike other times, this was not with each other, but with the other couple. It was a great feeling. We had to be up and out by about 6:30 to get home and get ready to hit the road. so finally about 5:30 we all were fast asleep, with the wife and I holding each other in the middle of them. It was a great feeling. Well after a short 30 min. nap, we had to head home.. and boy was it a long drive... the wife and I said very few words for about the first 10-15 minutes. I thought that she was mad and she thought that I was mad, But finally I had to see what her thought were, and we started talking, and the more we talked the more excited that we got. When we finally got home, we jumped in the shower and made love to each other. The trip that day was very peaceful and we talk about our exp. the whole time, what we enjoyed, what we didn't if there was any, but luckily there wasn't... but all in all to sum it up.... We are heading back over to there place again Saturday night. We (both couples) have talked all week long, and we are enjoying what looks like to be a long lasting relationship and a start to a great friendship. CJ PS... we have talked with G and T several times since then, and we have found out that this was the first time that they had ever "hooked up" on the first meeting. It would normally take several meeting for it to happen. But like we said, everything, and I mean everything Just clicked... The males were attracted the females, and the females were attracted to the males. So it all worked out for the good.... Can't wait til next time..

Well, I am no longer a lifestyle "virgin" Last night Jr and I went to the club and along with meeting several couples who voiced interest in us, we met a very hot 29 year old single guy that was sweet, funny, polite, intelligent, and such a gentleman. We hit it off right away and he and I were flirting up a storm and having a great time. At a certain point I went to the ladies room and when I came out Jr had our bag in hand and said he had a surprise for me. We walked to the playroom area and there standing beside an open door with a big smile on his face was my young stud facelick (whom I had nicknamed "Studly"). As we walked towards him Jr said, "Merry Christmas". We went into the room and it just went from there. OMG, I had a wonderful time! Studly was fabulous, Jr was fabulous, and I was in heaven. I don't know how many orgasms I had but we went at it for what seemed like hours. When we emerged from the room I had such a huge smile on my face and did a little yell, "I'm not a virgin anymore"! It was the best Christmas present I have ever had! Thank you to everyone on this board. If it hadn't been for you, last night would not have happened. As it was, I was completely comfortable and confident in what I was doing. sb

Hi all and Happy New Year, Sorry I haven't posted in a while, we had several family emergencies come up just before the holidays and Jr and I had a lot on our plates to deal with. I am back now. To answer Mrs. Bird's (The_Phoenyxes) question as to whether or not my "hubby" enjoyed himself as well, the answer is a resounding yes! As an FYI, we are not married and he is not new to swinging. He used to swing years ago in his life before me and put it on hold until I was ready to give it a try, so it's ok for me to say this encounter was all about me . After our MFM encounter, we went to the club for NYE and met a lovely couple with whom we played. We did a full swap and I had my first girl on girl experience. All went wonderfully and the four of us are making plans to meet up at the club again towards the end of the month. So it seems I have gotten into the "swing of things" and I am enjoying every minute of it! Jr has been very patient with my newbie blunders and is somewhat surprised at the level of enthusiasim I have , but understands it will level off eventually and he won't have to "babysit" me so much. sb

YAY for you!!! Our first experience was with a single male as well. Isn't it lovely to have 2 amazing men taking care of you?

Well, it seems to be a unsaid tradition that people will post about their first experience in the lifestyle. I'm happy to be posting mine finally!!! Recently we met a couple that really seemed to click well with. Similar interests to the point it was uncanny, and we all seemed to have some pretty good chemistry. Scheduling conflicts kept us from getting together for what seemed like an eternity. We had already exchanged pictures too, and we were both ready to play with this extremely attractive couple before we even got there. We kept the rules simple. Full swap, same room, and stop at any time if it gets uncomfortable for any reason. On the way there we were pretty nervous. We had met them in a vanilla setting previously, but we still hadn't had a whole lot of face time together. It was funny on the way there as at one point we said we needed to stop for Gas....and condoms, booze, and batteries for a toy. That's not our typical road trip gas stop. We met at their place, which was very nice. Got the tour and quickly got on our way to the local mall to satisfy the women's desire for shopping. (foolish I know, it can't ever be satisfied.) The mall was actually pretty fun for me. It was a great way for the women to bond by shopping. And well, for the men to bond by complaining about the same. After that we headed back and went to a restaurant called Longhorn's steakhouse. The food was really good! More great conversation and then we were back on our way to their house to change into our club clothes. We went to the club which I thought was plenty nice. Some features like store it yourself liquor I didn't care for as much when compared to Princeton which I had been to where a bartender mixes the drink for you and keeps your stuff labeled behind the bar in safekeeping. It had a large dance floor which would see some use and the DJ did a very good job at keeping the place popping. Had a scavenger hunt to help people break the ice which I thought was a noble effort by the club. At one point myself and the other wife had our first kiss, which was very nice. I'm not much of a flirt, and it was terribly difficult for me to be forward before this. (and even after) We danced off and on which everyone seemed to enjoy. I was drinking a bit which was helping to loosen me up and keep me from being so damned nervous, and I was able to touch and play around a bit more. Meanwhile Mrs. Truelove was always a step ahead with the other Husband and they were really enjoying themselves. We even teased a little orally near the dance floor which was very hot, and at one point the women went out in the middle of the dance floor per the DJ's challenge and gave a the other husband a little blowjob. I did have a terrible moment in which I spilled my drink across the table, but thankfully only a very little spilled on the other wife. However, I was extremely embarrassed. Needless to say, I'm not the smoothest guy around. Moving forward we left the club around 1 or 2, at which point I think we are all very tired. A little playing in the car ride back to their place though helped keep things lively. When we got back we wasted little time and the activities got started much easier than I had ever anticipated that they would. Thank god for big beds! We started with oral and that was going very good. Well, earlier I mentioned that I had been drinking a bit to loosen up, and I was nervous. And well it came through with my performance. It seemed like everything was going wonderfully, full erection and everything. I was really happy and she is really talented! But as soon as the condom went on things went down hill. I don't know how much the alcohol, fatigue, or nervousness contributed to it, but once I started having troubles with sensitivity through the condom, everything else started falling apart. And it was hard for me to accept because this woman was smoking hot, and I was even getting turned on by the action my wife was having next to me. I now know how it feels to have the downward spiral of an ego being demolished. I am thankful that I was able to please the woman to some degree through oral and before I lost the erection with intercourse. But it simply wasn't going to go further for me that night. With that said, the other couple was very understanding, and I can't thank them enough for that. In the end, I really enjoyed the encounter regardless of my performance though. The next morning we showered, ate breakfast and the women went out to do some more shopping. Myself and the other husband stayed back and watched a bit of football, and talked about the night before among other things. Which was very nice to be able to talk to him about it all. The wives came and back and we hung around some more chatting before we finally had to say our goodbyes. Needless to say this was the most pleasant couple and we couldn't have had any more luck than to be with them for our first experience. They were both very thoughtful and understanding, and I am not sure I can say enough good things about them both. Except to say I am sure we will be getting together in the future. And in case they stumble across this thread I would like to thank them for the wonderful experience, and the thoughtfulness they both displayed. So now we can officially say, WOOHOO! WE'RE SWINGERS! Mr. Truelove PS. Hopefully Mrs. Truelove will post a supplement to this with anything from her end of the experience. PSS. A special thanks to the Spoomonkeys as well. Thanks to their insight on this board, their advice and opportunities they gave us at the meetup we attended, and their personal exchanges of advice made this possible.

Well let me just say, WooHoo we are swingers!!! I just love saying that! I think we are so lucky to have found a couple that is so understanding and willing to take the time to be patient with us. It is amazing how much we have in common with them and how attracted we are to them. It is so nice to have found this with our first couple. Mr. Truelove forgot to mention that after we went to the mall, we went to an adult novelty store. That was the biggest novelty store I have ever been in. I had wanted to buy a new toy for a while now and thought what the heck. As the girl was ringing me up she said "I am going to battery check the vibe". She put in the batteries and sat the vibe upright on the counter while it was running. I know that I turned bright red seeing that thing spinning on the counter. That was the funniest thing I have ever seen. Since Mr. Truelove already posted in great detail, I’ll skip to the portion that he left out. The next morning Mr. Truelove and I were so horny. We really wanted to have another session with them. There were many things I still wanted to do. Also, I felt like I didn't really get a chance to play with her. I was so turned on by this beautiful woman. I am so glad we have already discussed meeting with them again after the holidays. So on the way home Mr. Truelove started fingering me, and I was really getting quite worked up. So I decided to put on a show with my new vibe. I really loved playing with my new vibe and also teasing Mr. Truelove. It was amazing having sex with Mr. Truelove after the whole exciting weekend. We had an amazing time. I don’t believe we could have asked for a better first swinging experience.

Congrats, Trueloves! I had no idea you were swing virgins, you are so prolific on this board! As you know from being on this board for so long, this is very, very common...even when the lady is smoking hot. It's natural to be nervous, of course. Even with swing experience, new people/new situations are always exciting and there are some nerves - perfectly normal. But then, people stay out LATE, they're drinking, and don't even get started until well into the wee hours. Your body is used to being asleep by then, and that's without a stressful and exciting day. Add some drinks, and using condoms which you're probably not accustomed to, and sadly, all of this adds up to things not working as you'd wished. So, just know that if you do things differently next time, you'll have a whole different outcome! You already got the tip about ultra-thin condoms. If yours aren't ultra-thin, give those a try. My thought: practice using condoms at home with your wife. Due to the delay in stimulation in the time it takes to get one on, that's often where a man may start to lose it. But, practice makes perfect! You'll get adept at using condoms and it won't feel so much like an interruption, distraction, something to fumble around with. My hubby had problems when we first started swinging, due to the fact he hadn't worn a condom in....20 years, maybe? LOL Maybe next time you see your couple, you could have an encounter with them before the late-night clubbing. Another thought occurred to me, too...sounds like you spent the night at their house, right? Trying things out the next morning after a good sleep might have been an excellent time to try again. I know hindsight is 20/20, but maybe this is a thought for next time? Glad to hear you had such fun and met a great couple your first time out!