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It’s Saturday morning and New Jersey is predicting a beautiful beach day. Gunnisons parking fills up early and we will be there for breakfast on the beach. We are four couples with at least two umbrellas, one a rainbow umbrella the other blue. We try to sit close to the water if possible about 100 yards in. Just guessing we don’t measure. If you want to join us, I am blonde 5’2”, my husband is thin and 5’9 short hair. I will be wearing a beautiful new green two piece which you won’t see if we are on the beach. If you have never been here, it’s clothing optional, most are nude. No sex on the beach or anywhere else, no liquor and no taking pictures of others. Bring plenty of lotion, it’s going to be very sunny. We are planning drinks after the beach and possibly more. If you are interested the men are straight, the women bi. The beach is very LBGTQ friendly, again no sex. Hope to meet you.

This is solely my — male half — opinion and I’ll probably be told by the longtime members here that I’m dead wrong… but here goes! ;-D I don’t think you’d necessarily be UNpopular at clubs. Even though most of the “veteran” couples are looking for some level of swap, some of them have a soft spot in their hearts for newbies — because they remember when they were new — and will play “down” to your comfort level one time anyway. There will also likely be other newbies there whenever you go and perhaps they’re looking to dip just a single toe into the water by sharing a bed with another couple. All that said, I’ll give you this piece of advice that I’m pretty sure the other members here will back me up on. Namely, when you make your first visit to a club, go with *NO* expectations other than to have a great time with each other. If that means you don’t do any more than get a playroom and have sex, take it as a positive. (That’s all we did on our first several club visits.) There’s something really exciting about having sex with the sounds of the music thumping and people milling around just outside the playroom door no doubt wondering just who’s in that room and what they’re doing in there. So don’t put any artificial pressure on yourselves to full swap, soft swap, or even share a bed with anybody else. And if you really want to put on a show while others watch, just leave the playroom door open. Trust me, you’ll draw a crowd!

On premise clubs have rooms where you can play … which can be anything from watching and being watched to full swap with another couple. Off premise clubs are just a place to meet other people … you have to go elsewhere for any type of sexual activity. The vibe SHOULD BE pretty much the same: music, dancing, food, conversation, and a number of scantily clad women! ;-D

This is true! Good advice.

Yes and yes. Paradoxically, the river boats have larger cabins than many of the sea-going cruise vessels.

Good answer above. Off-premise are usually held somewhere more public, like say at a hotel banquet room or something like that. That limits and sort of puts a damper on things and the vibe reflects that. There is usually some form of security to keep nonswingers from wandering in, but it goes the other direction too, and you can't just wander out of the room half dressed or not dressed at all. On-premise, once you are through the door, then it's pretty much as wide open as you want to be, and the vibe reflects that too. In our experience, earlier in the evening the vibe is about the same either type. Off-premise, it dials up some like most parties do as they go on. On-premise, it really dials up, you can just feel the tension, excitement, and sexual hum building and then all of a sudden what was a crowded dance floor area gets half empty as people head for the playrooms.

Oh yes and she was more horny after.

Hey She wants to play with a MF Couple, we arent ready for multiple dicks. I dont plan to participate, i like to watch then after its just us

Congratulations on your first experience! It always amazes me how many men thoroughly enjoy watching their wives have sex with other men. It's guaranteed to light my fire. I tried for a long time to try to explain why it turned me on so much. I gave up trying. I just love it. No need to explain it :)

Our new home was designed from the ground up to favor clothes-free living. No sightlines in from the outside. Interior courtyard. Clothed when practical, nude when possible. Just easier.

I can understand the first time hesitation that goes away in a short time. I quickly understood that nudity is natural not sexual. Go to a nude beach everyone is nude including old, young, thin, fat, pretty and not so pretty bodies and nobody cares. The more you go the less the nudity is an issue. At home nudity is just a normal thing.

I was limited from reading the article. I was apprehensive getting naked with a few couples we met on a cruise when we docked and headed to a clothing optional beach. If it were just the two of us going alone, not with a group, not fearing spending the rest of our cruise with these people I might have had different thoughts. Possibly the group strip made it easier as others were quicker to take their bathing suits off, the men were drop and go. Remembering the group we were all in decent shape I had lost some weight before the vacation knowing that I had to prepare for the eating and drinking orgy on the cruise. I think the new friends may have made it easier as if it were friends from home it would have been more awkward. In days these new friends would be going home never to be seen again. Getting naked where do you look or not look trying not to stare. Within minutes I felt at ease being nude the big feeling was not be nude it was still the not outwardly looking at others. I tried not looking down at the men. I went to that beach knowing it was nude not sex. I never thought that I would be having sex with one of the men that very night.

This is an open forum where everyone is entitled to their own opinion! You do not have to agree with others, but a little common respect goes a long way to making it a more useful place to be for everyone. We are all adults after all.

I'm not sure that is true for everyone. Some men would consider it an insult.

Experienced this last weekend. Met a bi m/f cpl for motel play. We all agreed to bareback sex, since all three produced written records of our latest test results beforehand. She was very nice, and an expert @ what she was doing. He was toned, and pretty hot, with a PHAT cock, very thick. He expressed that he wanted me to fuck him while she watched. So we all got naked & he and I started sucking each other. He then rolled over to the doggie position. I lubed his ass really good. This was only his 2nd time bottoming. She came over to the bed as I slid my stiff cock into him. She maneuvered herself underneath him, 69, with her nose rubbing my balls with each stroke. It was an erotic moment. He started grinding his ass into me as I was balls deep. She stated she wanted me to cum inside him, and he concurred. As I neared the point of no return, she started licking my balls, and that's all it took. I sprayed my load deep in his ass, while he was moaning & grinding against me. When I exited his hole she sucked his cock. He unloaded, and she said it was the biggest load she'd ever had from him. It was an experience not soon to be forgotten. They expressed the desire to meet again, so he could fuck me. I agreed wholeheartedly

Well, Alura, I don't think I should get into the gory details, but answering your question in a clinical tone - I was 9 when I was introduced to sex, and it was by a grown man on whom I had a huge crush. That "affair" lasted three months. It ended when we almost got caught. After that I continued growing up seemingly normally and unaffected by it ... until I hit puberty at around age 11. I became obsessed with what happened two years earlier, and I developed an obsessive hatred for the man I once adored enough to allow him to gratify himself with me over and over and over. Anyway, when I was 11 I sexually abused a mentally challenged neighbor (another grown man), developed a penchant for mutilating myself with pins, and at age 15 was finally diagnosed with OCD and hypersexuality. Anyway, that's when I got interested in psychology, so something good came out of it. There isn't a day that goes by when I'm not affected by my childhood. And I'm actually happy for it. I have something in my adult life that gives me an excitement that few "normal" women will ever feel.

I find this post deeply offensive. Nobody ever wants to talk about the married men that are assholes. The married guys that lack the social skills to communicate with another human being. The lame married guys that feel entitled to do or say what they want because they are married. The married guys that are always looking for someone to fuck without their wife even knowing. The married guys that post pictures of their wives and other women in their family without their consent. The married guys who do not respect other men but expect you to treat them and their wives as some sorta queen. The confused married guys who claim to be cuckold's but secretly want to be dominant and control the whole scenario. The confused married guys that act tough but be all in your DMs asking if they can suck your cock or if you will fuck them. The married guys that are lame as fuck and ride on the coattails of their wife just to give them some status. The married guys that want you to spoil their wife because they cannot. The married guys that pimp their wives out for money because they are not successful themselves. See what Im saying.....I been at this for 20+ years and each one of those descriptions is an example of married guys that I have encountered in the lifestyle. The fact that you would lump all men into the same category when you have not met all men speaks volumes for the type of human that you are. If you are really interested in improving the lifestyle then there are other ways that you can provide feedback to single guys that you feel are problematic. Lets not forget, single men are relevant in the swinging lifestyle because some married men are unable to keep up with their wives sex drive. Plus, when event planners have cash flow problems its normally the single men that make up the difference.