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We told our kids log ago when they were teens, so no we don't really care who knows but not caring does not mean not being discrete. For us it has always been ask and we will tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Not all of our kids or friends want details so as our kids use to say don't ask because they will tell and that just might be TMI. Fast forward and all our kids are now grown with spouses of their own and kids and they and their spouse tell us we are the normal parents, who would of thought.

We'll agree with both of these statements, with a small asterisk. 1. Parenting is the hardest and most important responsibility for which there is no consistent guidance. Every parent should strive to do the best they can, and every parent wonders what could have been done better. The shape of a family (single parent, traditional nuclear, poly,...) will shape how great parenting is done; it must never alter the reality that great parenting is done, whether alone, with a partner, with other relatives, ... 2. Parents' sex life should be private. Kids need to know and understand that parents need "private time", and that everyone's private time has to be respected. That said, kids will be exposed to sex information from non-parental sources--friends, the internet, whatever. We will fully agree that parents should not be exposing kids directly to sex, our asterisk being that part of parenting is managing kids' exposure to--and responses to--sex information. We'll close by remarking that we grew up when TV shows such as "Father Knows Best", the "Donna Reed Show", and "Leave it to Beaver" were in syndication if not first run. These "family" shows depicted imaginary (and aspirational) relationships. In these universes, "non-binary" was inconceivable, marriages were perfect, etc. The world is a more complex place, and contemporary kids know this from all sorts of messaging. None of that new messaging makes parenting easier.

I got a twin brother! But I guess that is not the same lol.

We TIRED to be monopedal but it just didn't work for us either

The whole group fantasy is a powerful thing. I would love to dive into a pile of bodies and let go, like you said.

Mr occ here. Mrs occ likes group play. Couples but also gang bangs. I have found that once you really dive into group action touching other guys just happens due to proximity. Once I got over the initial "omg I'm touching another guy" thing, then it became a turn-on. So now, if everyone is comfortable with it, bi play just becomes part of the fun. Whether it's just touching or full on blowjobs or more. Just find your comfort level and then let go.

OK so I've started this thread and it's been a while... Yes, it happened. After I started this thread, I was contacted by a single gent who knew us from a swingers website. He said he is open for experimentation. So it happened. Yes, I sucked a dick! Not to completion though, but I did suck it. Did it make me feel weird. No. Do I feel like a freak. No. Was it as gross and as difficult as it was maybe perceived to be. No. Was it exciting to feel him and experience his sexual energy. Yes. Did the wife enjoy it. Yes, she also said, it looked and felt so natural that we did it together. Am I now suddenly a bi-sexual man. NO. I so much love the female body and especially boobs and can't describe how horny it makes me. Have to admit, that I secretly undress many women with my eyes, that is how horny they make me. When I look at a man in a normal situation, I don't even look at them in a sexual way and I generally don't find men attractive. Will I do it again. Yes. Maybe not with anybody. But I liked the personality and attitude of this gent and he had the correct personality to go with his rock-hard dick. I don't think I would easily go down on anyone, but in a threesome situation with the wife, with this specific gent...Yes I would do it. I realized that it is all about sexual energy and how we experience it. If we feel comfortable, we would be open to more liberal experiences. I've got to admit to myself that immediately afterwards, I wondered why I thought it would be so hard to do and why I put so much thought into it. It was so easy and natural. Even the wife is so happy for me to broaden my horizons.