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The difference between bi & bi-curious is basically whether or not you have acted on your thoughts/ desires yet. As for every woman being bi? I don't think so, that's quite a stretch. Sounds like a line a woman would use - "ah come on, you're bi you just don't know it yet."

We're a poly family, so now any arrangement isn't unusual among us. However, after Clair started fucking hubby but before she actually joined David, Red and me as a family, hubby and I had a get-away weekend planned that at the last minute I couldn't go on. I asked Clair if she wanted to go in my place. She did and they had a good time. For me it was nerve wracking at the time, and in retrospect, hot! The situation was such afterwards, comforting to me, that it opened my mind to having her in our house.

I used to underestimate oral sex because I didn't enjoy it much. But I once dated a girl from Japan. She gave amazing blowjobs that made me ejaculate within 3 minutes.

It says Ladies Only, so it's me, Daniela, back. My first female/female experience was early on, when I first started exploring sex with boys and girls. Am I allowed to say how old I was? The girls in my circle of friends started messing around with boys, so we would talk about what we did among us, and some of us wanted to "practice" with other girls. It was a way of doing the bi thing without admitting we had some lesbian tendencies. All of us girls masturbated, but among us who played girl on girl, most of us, including me, had our first other person orgasm by another girl. We were more patient, gentler, and no risk of pregnancy than with a guy. I actually preferred kissing girls and loved licking pussy, I had kissed girls before, but my first real time was with a friend whose parents weren't home. We were talking about boys, then stated to practice or kissing, then I made an lame excuse to go down on her. She came, then returned the favor. Turns out, I was good at it and never turned the other girls down. I thought I might be a lesbian, but still was attracted to boys and once I got dick I couldn't give that up either.

Even within our closed group, not knowing how it will all play out is exciting anticipation.

When I manage to cum the second time there is little ejaculate, the third time none, but the orgasms are increasingly intense, and particularly with a third orgasm, my balls will ache for several hours to a day afterwards. Intense and worth it.

Petra here. Jealousy has always been my enemy and my friend. I met the man who is my husband David while still romantically and sexually involved with my ex-fiancé. David said that he was fine with it continuing, being monogamous, having threesomes, got married. It took me two years before I reciprocated by setting him up with my female friends and acquaintances, which was surprisingly easy. It was a control thing for me; if David was going to fuck other women, it would be my choosing. This is the long way around to answering the question. Until hubby started fucking other women, I was 100% straight, couldn't imagine myself playing with another pussy or even tits. But after he came home from having the sex that I had arranged (or after I came home if they screwed in our bed), I wanted not only him, but wanted to find every trace of her on him. And the biggest one was smelling and tasting her on his dick. Suddenly my jealousy made me want to see them together, see how they performed - actually, I wanted to see her and how she performed. As easy as it was to set up women to fuck my husband (BTW, he never protested) (women prefer fucking a married man (David is very attractive) , any hesitancy goes away when the wife is ok with it), few would let me be there and watch. When I asked Clair to let me be there the second time she and hubby had sex, she said, Sure, great. It made me mind-numbingly jealous as I watched them. But instead of wanting to smell her on him and suck his dick, I wanted to reclaim his cum out of her cunt. I wanted to know what was so good about her. Clair had previously mentioned to me that she was bi, so it gave me the courage to ask if I could get closer to her. She hugged me, I went down on her to reclaim the semen that belong to me and felt her breasts. I must have been a natural since I made her orgasm pretty good.

As soon as the agreed upon 'transparency'. becomes 'opaque' you need to stop. Also, as far as editing texts so you wouldn't see the full content, well, a lie of omission is still a lie. As far as he didn't know why he did it, well, here's why, he knew he was crossing your boundaries and he was getting off on the behavior with the woman. As far as,"She means nothing to me". Well, then ending things should not be a problem. Also, if she meant nothing, then why was he hiding things ? He was getting off on the very things that will jeopardize your marriage. As far as my own Swinging life, beyond meeting for amazingly great sex with others, there are no 'side channels' like texting, email, or anything. This is why nothing can evolve independently, even if its initial intentions were innocent, on its own. That, to some degree seems to have happened here. My husband is the same way. If any play partners try to do have extra connections we put a stop to that effort and if that doesn't work we simply end any further communication. Simply said, such efforts are truly,'playing with fire". The marriage comes first. It is primary and it is all that matters. There's this couple we play with. Sometimes it's a full on foursome with my husband, sometimes I see them independently, or as a threesome. My husband is fully aware. The sex is blisteringly amazing. There are no side efforts. No texting, photo exchanges, or anything that would build an independent relationship. The result, I'm never explaining myself. I never cross a boundary. And, I get fucked regularly into next week, often with my husband watching as he's bringing the other wife to 'begging for mercy' from the orgasms she's having with him. So, there you go. Katrina

We would not want to do that, personally.

Hi Everyone, I just wanted to say that I enjoy reading this board and feel the compassion that is shared by fellow members of this site. I am new at this, so I am not sure if this questions has been posted. If I partake in sexually encounter with a woman, soley for the purpose of pleasing my husband, Am I bi-curious or something else? My husband and I have been swinging for several years now and just this year we had our first experience with a FMF 3some. Sometime after this took place I was helping my husband pack, for a business trip out of town for a couple of Months, and in our conversations about our encounter he said to me" It's ok to invite (third person) over to stay with you". I was kinda puzzled with is statment, since our encounter was soley for his pleasure, I enjoyed see him get so aroused, and know I would do it again... and now just wonder if I am considered bi-curious or a bi-faker

Great job you badgered her into not wanting to fulfill her fantasy. I'm gonna come right out and say it, you fucked up. You had a rule, you do not fuck the girl. But then you beg to fuck the girl. So she feels guilty and gives in. But she knew herself when she created the rule. She said no sex between you and the girl because she would be jealous and you would treat the new girl better than her. And thats exactly what happened. You straight up screwed up. If you keep pushing this you will just be pushing her farther away from this. You either let her have alone time with the girl, no shows no sex but you have the fantasy, and maybe you eventually get the shows back. Or you let it go and she doesn't date women just you.

That seems harsh

A former swing buddy was a gorgeous Asian woman who enjoyed pegging guys. When we put a photo of her behind a guy getting ready to peg him as our profile photo, we were amazed at the number of "straight" guys who contacted us and begged for her to peg them. When we got together with them and she had pegged them, we asked some of them why they showed straight in their profile. All said that they thought other women would not be interested in them if the women felt that they were not 100% straight.

Id recomend starting by flirting, tell her she is pretty, you love her hair, or her outfit. Tell her it makes her look sexy, or maybe something more forward like that skirt is really doing it for me babe. Make it clear you are interested, since you've discussed it she will probably be into it. Then I'd make sure you are more touchy than normal, hold her hand, play with her hair, slide your fingers across her shoulders and neck, rub her back, give hugs and be cuddly. You are trying to create moments of intimacy. Then when its time to play I'd ask her if you can kiss her, tell her you want too feel her against you and if she says yes, dive in. I wouldn't give her little pecks I'd really kiss her, make it passionate, pull her into you and press your bodies together. If she is feeling it this will turn into grinding then I'd ask if you can touch her boobs, I'd slide my hands under the bra and work them while still kissing her,, then when she seems really into it I'd put my hand on her upper thigh and ask her if you can touch HER, if she says yes ask I'd slide that hand all the way up her thigh and start massaging her kitty. After that I'd just go down on her. Hopefully she reciprocates. Good luck.

Men have to deal with a stereotype that if they like sucking cock or fucking a guy it means they are not manly. Women are generally more in touch with their feelings in general, we don't repress as much. We are also more in tune with close contact and moments of intimatcy with other women than men are. We are constantly touching each others hair, or helping with makeup, or hugging or cuddling together. Two women can hold hands and its no big deal but two guys holding hands is called gay. Its a toxic masculinity issue.

No need to complicate things. To start out just give you wife the gift of enjoying her Lesbian side while you enjoy the stories she brings home to you and the smell of pussy on her breath. My husband let me keep screwing my ex-fiancé for a couple of years before I was comfortable letting him be with other women. Be generous and your reward will come.

Your situation is not exactly like what ours was, we were looking for a woman for me to play with too. I had been with other women before I was married and Alan missed out ever being part of those days. We searched on many sites for that Unicorn and never found one. We considered hiring a someone and didn’t feel right about it. Our original plan was for me to be with a woman and him just watch. I didn’t have a need for a woman, it was more for him to watch. We eventually chose a couple and it led to more of a full swap. After our failed search we decided to help couples who couldn’t find what they were looking for. Many couples like us were liking for women to be with the wife. I never went to a couple alone, Alan was always there. Most of the time the husband watch at first and then join in.

It's been said that all women are bisexual, unless you buy them something they won't get sexual.

No labels for me. Just give me a man or a woman i’m attracted to and I’m happy. Definitely a fan of the Kinsey Scale though.

If any group should be open minded about sexuality and sexual choices, it should be swingers. Swinging is arguably more outside the “norm” than homosexuality at this point.

Okay, here I go again . . . In 1948 Alfred Kinsey and his team postulated that there are seven degrees of sexual orientation, from 'exclusively heterosexual' (level 0) to 'exclusively homosexual (level 6), where an individual from levels 1-5 fit describes just how hermaphroditic they are. (They preferred that term to 'bi-sexual.') There is also a further category 'X' that alludes to people who are asexual. The original studies, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953) are great readings, if you like science and statistics. (Guilty!) The Wikipedia articles on 'Kinsey Scale' and 'Kinsey Reports' aren't bad. Of course, since then there have been many, many studies that have furthered the research (or muddied the waters, depending on your point of view.) But most of them that I've studied simply come to much the same conclusion - Bisexuality is a part of human nature and should be considered sexual orientation as much as Heterosexuality and Homosexuality.

She also told you that she didn’t want you to have intercourse with the other women, but that has changed in the middle of play and caused jealousy on her part! It doesn’t sound like you two have the communication part of this lifestyle down very well and without it there are only going to be problems a long the way. If it really is about her and her bi sexuality then let it be about that. She sets the rules and you follow them. If that is not what it is really about then maybe it is time to be honest with each other about what it is. If you can’t find a common ground then you might want to step away from the extra play and just work on each other and the relationship that is supposed to matter the most.

As a fellow who has been on both sides of oral and anal with men, all I can say is that it is more of a thing to try than something that I seek out. I, and the other guys I've done the gay thing with, much prefer to play with and fuck a woman, not because of social pressure or religion or anything, just because women are more satisfying. As it is said, women are prettier and smell better, so even other women like it. Even when butt fucking, I prefer slapping up against a woman's smooth ass than a big hairy one, and play with her tits. Men are lucky most women need dick to be satisfied.