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I gestated two children in me who I never even met until they came out.

💯% correct. When we decided to cross the line into the unknown we made a commitment to enjoy, have fun and explore. The biggest rule we had is to try before saying no and once we said no there would be no questions as to why. Another commitment was to continue to try new things and not to quickly say no. Linda has been more experimental, me not as much because of my lack of desire of being with men. The closest I’ve been is me an another guy being with Linda and in very close contact.

In a very short period of time we went from one couple to a camping trip with several couples to a house party.

all this talk of convertible sex and my mind wants to know... How do you avoid bugs in the teeth during said activities???

I was friends with a hotwife couple. One day we’d had a good amount of sex (MF & some MFM) followed by a visit to a local clothing optional swimming area. The woman had a very strong libido; in my experience she was never not up for more sex. When we left the beach he drove and his wife and I sat in the second row of their brand-new minivan. I masturbate do her to a juicy orgasm. Her husband was slightly annoyed, fearing her juices (mixed with his and mine) were going to stain the seat in their new vehicle. It was a valid concern. (With both my ex and my current wives I’ve masturbated them to orgasm while I was driving on rural two-lane roads. I totally kept my eyes on the road! But it was quite enjoyable for me in both cases to feel them lubricate and then orgasm.)

Before we met Daniela tells me that she gave a blowjob to a pilot in a small plane. Actually, several times. Does that count? The closest I've ever come is fucking my ex-wife in the back of a hatchback... while it was in the garage. We were both kind of dirty and very horny so it was a good choice. Afterwards we just left our dirty clothes in the garage and went to the shower.

Just when I think I have everything figured out, along comes something like this.

A third time only happens in group play and when 1) each orgasm is with a different woman, and 2) I'm watching my wife fucking, both of which get me extremely excited. No pills, but having my dick sucked the right way gets me back up. That's not the usual case, however. Typically I'll get off twice in a session. Regardless, when my wife and I get home she'll have me go down on her (I don't mind the mess) and give her one last orgasm to relax her. Women are like that.

I understand; a taboo can be broken, but I want to be there. Variety is the best thing about non-monogamy. Not only doing things that we do with our spouses but in different ways, but also doing things one spouse doesn't like/want to do and even performing acts that never before crossed our minds.

Anal sex or we call it fucking in the ass is something special for us. Lin had once said to me that she must love me if she let me fuck her in the ass. Sure she loves me and I love her when we have sex in the vagina or oral and we always say we love the other it’s just that it was emphasized by her saying that she must love me if we are doing anal. I know she doesn’t love it even when she’ll yell out Fuck My Ass. Not wanting her to do anal with someone with me not being there is just a secret communication between us of what’s alright to do. We just started this and we jumped right in, there were no baby steps. We have no rules like others posted, we never said you can’t do this or that, it’s just seems anal didn’t come up. Maybe it will and maybe things we haven’t even thought about.

Yes! Just last week and plan to this weekend. We have a friends with a vacation home who is hosting a Labor Day barbecue that will probably heat up more than chicken

That's not unusual, a guy in my bum (any bum) cums pretty quickly. For that reason, and because I can cum multiple times, the guy going up my bum usually has a first round in my or another pussy. His second orgasm takes longer that way and all three of us get to enjoy the DP longer. Also, the first, larger deposit of semen goes where it is more appreciated.

Yes unfortunately it is all to common! Guys just using their wife to try and get some for themselves when she is never actually on board and doesn’t know anything about it in the first place. Forget about pieces of crap like this guy. We can usually weed them out very quickly at this point. If the wife isn’t actually aware of it then they are not swingers. He is just a cheater and they don’t deserve to be part of this lifestyle.

Happens ALL OF THE TIME. Some (married) guy is looking for some fun and answers an ad with the full knowledge that his wife wouldn't ever consider swinging (even though he has never asked her about it). He finds another couple but suddenly his wife is unavailable...traveling, sick, uninterested, etc, but he is still available. Sure, he's tried to find couples that are looking for just a guy, but there are HUNDREDS of men looking to cheat on their wives (cheating isn't swinging and will never be) and get laid. Lets see, he's lying to his wife and lying to you as well...of course drama will soon be following. Kick him to the curb and move forward.

An update on this. I recently did another DP with my GF and buddy and it was far better and more comfortable than any time before. We were all definitely tipsy and I had most of my clothes on throughout it. My buddy had her sucking his dick while she was on my lap then was fucking her while she was leaning over me. The whole thing felt very much like a cuckold scenario which isn't our usual thing but it was hot so what the hell. I was going with the flow and didn't think I was going to have the opportunity to join in until he was fucking her from behind over my lap and instructed her to take out my cock and suck it. At this point he's pounding her from behind and pushing her head up and down on my cock. Eventually he instructs her to ride me. At this point I unbutton my pants and pull them down just a little bit but still have my dick out through my underwear, My buddy tries to come around to the side for a blowjob but doesn't work out so great. Then he goes into fingering her asshole and I know exactly where this is headed. Eventually he lubes up, asks me to spread her cheeks and he goes in. I'm not sure what the exact reason is but it just felt more comfortable and enjoyable. I think the main reason is because we weren't all fully naked. Maybe it sounds crazy but I think having some clothes on made the DP more enjoyable for me. I had said previously that I disliked DPs because I didn't like feeling that close to another guy. Even though we're technically still close and our dicks are close when inside my GF it just had a different vibe that made it more relaxing and less paranoid.

Does José know that? ??

Anal does very little for me, I let a guy do it when he or others have gotten me off sufficiently. But I do like a finger in my bum when fucking and DP is another level up from that

Those same girls won't do any DP. Cause sluts do DP. Now me, I like DP, it's amazing and I passed the Slut status threshold a long time ago.

Okay, that I don't gt at all: "I'll take one in my mouth and one in my pussy -- or one in my ass and one in my pussy but there's no way I'm taking 2 in my pussy. I'm no slut, you know." ???

Women naturally seek other women when needing comfort, sympathy, or support. Women are also, in general, more empathetic. For related reasons, many woman will seek other women for sexual gratification; empathy accompanies the gratification. For men, being gay or bisexual is different. Man-to-man sexual contact tends to be casual, intense, and brief. No comfort sympathy, or support is needed. A woman might also seek other woman when dissatisfied with a man who jumps on her, ejaculates, gets up, farts, and switches the TV on.

We have been to several parties and there is plenty of bisexual play among the females and none with the men. From reading on here and other places this is very common. I have asked my husband why it’s okay for me to be with everyone and he would never think about being with another guy. He said he has no desire. I have seen all male porn. The guys were great looking. I was not into watching what they did. Bottom line the status quo is good for me.

My wife and I have been together for 22 years, married 16 and have always had a good relationship. We've been in the LS for just over 4 years. Our first full swap was 3 1/2 years ago. She hit it off with the other guy great; she described him as a tomcat seeking prey. Apparently she likes a somewhat domineering male. Although I was with his wife 1 or 2 times, I really didn't feel the right chemistry, so that was it for me, with exception of some parties we had where it just worked out that I did her. He had asked my wife to call him after that first time, and they have been in in phone contact ever since, once or twice a week, which I had no problem with because my wife has always been upfront with me about all. When it was known that his wife wasn't my type, he told my wife not to tell me that they had phoned each other because he didn't want me going into aol chat and telling his wife that they had been in contact. Apparently he kept things from his wife. My wife tells me everything so I said that wasn't cool at all. Nevertheless, after 1 MFM with my wife and him, I wasn't into him telling my wife to keep things from me, and him going behind his wifes back to do as he wanted. My wife was enamored with him and though I expressed my grave concern that he was cheating on his wife, I allowed my wife to get together with him on occasion, like once every few months over the past few years but still saying I didn't like him keeping this a secret from his wife, as its something I never would do. Fast forward to our local club last month. We were chatting with a couple newly acquainted with us in our off premise club, and they said they knew that other couple (we didn't say anything about my wife being with that guy for the past 3 years occasionally), but the other couple says "we know them, his wife cheated on him a few years back; he found out was pissed and told the other woman and they nearly got divorced over it." Well that was it. When I heard that drama, I said to my wife "that's VERY uncool, and if relative strangers are knowledgeable about their drama, you will probably become known as the other woman of a cheating spouse, and we'll be blacklisted from our local LS community." So anyway, last night I said why don't we have 3 couples over Sat night because we've only gone dancing at our local club for the past month but haven't had any playtime. She said great, and that she had planned to go out on Friday night with this guy if ok with me. I said, here I am thinking about something for both of us on Sat., and she already has made plans for herself on Friday for an intimate encounter. So now I'm thinking that she really only goes along with all our playdates to keep me in the game, so I'll allow her to keep on going with this other guy. I called her out on it, and she says she just really likes him, but if I demand it's over then she'll be mopey and dissappointed, but will have to deal with it. Anyway, we talked some more and as a solution I am trying to convince her to convince this guy to get his wife in on it; I'll do his wife to take one for the team (she's actually very foxxy) for my wife to be happy and see the guy, but for her to keep on going with him while he's doing it all behind her back is just not cool with me. What do you think? Thanks.

Personally, I think your wife is showing you (not to mention the other woman) a huge lack of respect. You've voiced you concerns and that you're not happy with her playing with this man behind his wife's back, yet...she continues to do so. I would ask your wife how she'd feel if you were playing behind her back...so she'd get a feel of what the other woman could be feeling. And, I'd ask her how she would feel if you were playing with someone that she didn't want you to play with. IMO...you two need to stop and re-evaluate this situation. Teresa

She says she likes the way he fucks her, but I think it goes way beyond that. She has also said they talk about lots of stuff, like the breast cancer his wife is going through now. In addition to asking her that very same question a number of times verbatim, I also said the other guy is very hypocritical because when he found out his wife was cheating on him, he went and told the other guys wife about it. Now that he's doing the cheating, should I go tell his wife? I have said to my wife many times over this, it's not swinging, it's cheating (on his part). She's enabling him to do it though, and that has all degrees of wrong written all over it.