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Thank you Petra Don’t know if I am welcomed back by all the others. Posts like this scare me away. I can handle self absorbed people but ask why I should get worked up by someone who thinks they are the brightest star. Why do I need to argue and have anxiety, I have nothing I need to prove, I just look and things from another side and share. Opinions are just that, there are just too many who have been taking their opinions way too far. A nice person just sent a DM thinking that I stopped posting due to harassment, it wasn’t the primary reason. I have had some personal issues that a bigger influence on my absence.

lol 50 then 100mg of viagra couldn’t help. He was just completely in his own head and not using the correct one

Have you changed your thoughts? Would you like to have a bar, gun club, dance club, swinger’s club, motel, gas station or a myriad of other businesses next door, next to a grade school, church or have that church next to your house? I don’t know where you would find a brothel outside of Nevada, as all businesses must get variances to build. Do prostitutes have to have pimps and if one did why would you invite the pimp to your house? Is it fine to invite swingers to your house for sex? Would you want swinger clubs next to your mother or grandmother? If we invited a friend over for sex does it make a difference if we paid that friend? You sound like the moral police. Strippers and dancers don’t actually perform sex? Have you ever gone to a strip club? Porn actress are hired to have sex just like a prostitute, she can choose who and what she will do. I guess you have never read a biography written by a porn star, Linda Lovelace, I think she was one of the first mainstream porn stars said she was forced to perform sex acts. You seem to imply that prostitution is forced by a pimp, I disagree. If you ever attended a large university you will know at least one coed who worked the bars on her own.

Your remarks about “brothels” is so out of place. I will repeat that brothels only exist in Nevada and are only in zoned areas, not next to homes, churches, schools or your grandma’s house. A prostitute, male or female, will normally meet a client in a motel or possibly a home. Where are the brothels you are writing about? Let’s take the fictitious Prostitute who is visiting a house for sex, how would you know what her intentions are? Just another guest and a child or grandmother would have no idea of anything foul going on. I think a swingers party would be much noisier from my short experiences. I have no idea who the young lady is that sparked your response about the horrors of prostitution except from reading her past posts, she seems to have a much higher thinking of what relationships are and is not calling you “shallow”, your words to me. Maybe you are just old and not as open minded as her younger thinking. Is your morality the only proper way? That sounds like a very opinionated position.

What I actually wrote was that I find prostitution to be repugnant. My position on prostitution is simple enough to understand: I think it should be legal and regulated. As a social libertarian, there exist many things I find both repugnant, and immoral, that I believe should remain legal. Regarding prostitution, I think some of the social ills attached to it could be mitigated if it were both legal and regulated. Take the lottery, for example. I don't gamble and believe it is a tax upon ignorance and stupidity and, as such, is immoral. Statistics overwhelmingly demonstrate the poorest people, the ones who can least afford to gamble away their meager resources, are the ones who participate in the largest numbers. However, I understand the lure. Also, I understand society is better off with the lottery, and other forms of gambling, being regulated, rather than having them exist in the shadows and run by organized crime. I feel the same way about tobacco. Smoking or chewing tobacco are two of the most damaging things a person can do to his/her body. Tobacco is a known carcinogen and the largest direct, and indirect, cause of cancer deaths in the US. It is a highly addictive substance, intentionally made more so by tobacco companies. I find it repugnant and believe tobacco companies are, by definition, immoral. Yet, I believe it should remain legal and regulated. If people want to poison themselves by ingesting smoke into their mouths and lungs, or by chewing it, so be it. Do you understand my positions?

Perhaps Lioness will respond and clear things up.

Amy just told me that we will be celebrating the 5 year aniversary of swinging with Ken and Lesley in weeks time. Her and Lesly are planning a surprise. Something new. I asked her for a clue but she said wait till tge 22nd to find out. Looks like I may have an exciting story to tell.

I lap that up. Literally.

We have not been in the lifestyle for decades but have seen Partners ID jewelry many times. We both wear their jewelry and my wife and I have both met other people because they knew what it was.

Welcome back! I missed you! I hope that all is well. As a now "relatively" young married woman who started swinging early in our marriage, I identify with you and empathize with your posts. Please stick around. Thanks, Petra

Who was it that said, “You don’t pay a prostitute for sex, you pay her to leave.”?

This is the kind of guy that Daniela had emotional and sexual relationships with before we married. Relationships that were self-limiting because married men didn't leave their wives, so there was no concern that they wanted to impulsively get married or move in or something. Usually she had two, sometimes three men like this going at the same time in order to get what she wanted, sexual or otherwise, when she wanted it. Now one of our rules is "no married men unless the wife approves," and in our closed group of married couples all the wives approve. Daniela still likes the fact that the guys are all married, the wives approve, and they are all bi. She used to chase down lesbians too and no longer needs to.

Reminds me though of the story I told before about going on a trip with the wife of a couple in our group to do things that our mutual spouses hate: museums, concerts, plays. Yeah, there was sex too, and there wasn't a problem with any of it for anyone. I do remember getting tingles, however, when I clicked on the "CONFIRM" buttons when booking the flights, hotel, and tickets. At one point Daniela looked at some of the texts and emails between me and the other woman and was disappointed that there was no sex talk, only about arrangements and reservations. "This is supposed to be a swingers group, not a travel agency."

I understand that this is an old thread but I didn’t feel I should begin another so here I go. I am not bi and neither is my husband – meaning neither of us look for sex with the same sex. With that said we both however have had sex with many people over time and have had contact with the same sex on multiple occasions. I have returned the favor of good sex (with females) without any reservations numerous times and in fact view sex like this as just that, sex. Don’t get me wrong I can get into it and my husband loves when it has happened. Lascivious L&L put it in a good context. I will do anything to bring pleasure to my husband. I have no problem being with a woman, women, man, or men if he asks and would love the same of him. We have been building towards this for years, getting him comfortable with the idea. He now enjoys cum, cum play, cum kissing, cream pies, and loves taking it straight from the tap these days. And the anal sex, oooohhh the anal. He loves getting done anally. I can get him to take it anally all weekend long (something I love to mb watching). So my reason for posting: Are there bi/bi couples out there who have dealt with this type of scenario (or anything remotely similar) where a wife is willing to do whatever it takes and a husband who is interested in pleasing his wife’s desires and opening to the idea of bi/bi action? If so how did you help bring it about? If no one has experienced this, do you have any ideas or suggestions?

WOW that was pure genius to read....what a fantastic recount of that experience you had...a fantasy in its own right! Maybe that will get added to our Swingers Bucket List...thank you for sharing! :-)

Hi Jeff here, I need to get my new girlfriend involved in this site. She is very bi and has had several females to play with. And couples too! She has always told me she has wanted to see two guys suck each others cocks. Being a very kinky guy that I am and I have had about 40 cocks in my mouth before....none which has came in my mouth yet...who will be the first?? I have let Kelly know that I am willing to suck all the glory out of a cock for her and with her. Of course a male/female bi couple would be the best! I've told her it would be a very thrilling time to have one or two bi couples in a completely dark bedroom all fondling, feeling, fingering, sucking and fucking each other and just to walk out of that scenario with drops of cum out the corner of all our mouths!

There's another thread that talks about being more open with your ads and profiles about bisexuality. The reason you may be having difficulty finding other bisexual (both) couples might be your description of yourself. (I just checked your profile here) If you want to find couples that both are bi then you might just be upfront that you are as well. Just a thought! Oh, and welcome to the board!

Saskatchewan! Your province makes our Nebraska look practically urban. (We know, we've driven the prairie provinces for two fun camping vacations.) How ever do you find people to play with, let alone other bi's let alone other bi-bi couples? Sounds very NiN (Not in Nebraska).

We are both bi. Nothing better then sharing a cock.... Yummy

Damn Bobby! Now that's the way to enjoy a threesome! ~

Bobby and Nicki here. He has been bi forever and Nicki is a newbie and just started exploring her bi side recently. Even though she knows I like to suck cock she had not seen me, until recently when we were at a house party and a friend ask me if he could fuck her. I of course yes and he said he was not hard and it would take a little time. She looked at me and said why not help him out. They sat together on a couch and I went to my knees and took him in my mouth,having played with him before I knew what he liked and had him hard in no time, my wife smiled pushed me to the side and then mounted him and rode him until they both came. When they parted I licked them both clean. Damn good time!!!

I don't think we are really bi but since we have started swinging we are becoming a lot more comfortable with all of the same sex touching that goes on when we are with another couple. And it really is adding to the excitement of the experience. I've come the closest to a full male experience when Mrs OCC and I were in a 69 and the guy fucking her slipped out and his cock landed in my mouth. I gave it a couple of sucks before he put it back in her. Other than that just lots of touching by both of us with the same sex just due to the proximity. But we are both wanting to explore the opportunity.

Steve and I are both bi also but one difference is we do not do couples, we just have the occasional bi female or a bi guy we both enjoy watching and participating in the act.

My wife is bi and I am finding myself more curious as we go. I'm sure with the right person I would give it a shot

We are both bi. In fact me being bi is the whole reason we hooked up in the first place and her eventually marrying me. We've actually had a lot more bi-male experiences than bi-female experiences. Ideally we would like to hook up with another bi-bi couple for the full experience.

We are both Bi and as stated above finding a single male who is truly bi and doesn't tend to forget that when your together can be difficult. We have had some success finding bi-couples and when all in one bed changing up every few moments it is fantastic.

We play BI 3-somes MFM once in a while. Does hubby like to control the situation? I think it comes with lack of experience. When we first started many men would pretend to be BI and not really being interested in hubby they just wanted to get an easy access to me. So we would get frustrated and maybe trying to control the situation out of feeling frustrated and taken advantage off. A couple of years later we become more experienced and don't get in a situations where men pretend to be something they are not. When we initially talk with them we know how to trouble shot pretenders so they have no chance. Now hubby doesn't control it, it goes as smooth as it can be with right person. There are a lot of fun ways to be creative in this situation. Do I like to watch it? Honestly, I don't care much. Maybe a BJ sometimes. I usually find myself something to do instead of watching. Just recently had a 3-some with a man 10 years younger then us. He was perfect, we had ton of fun and later he said it was his best 3-some ever. Our favorite 3 some when a man gives 50/50 attention to both of us.

We are both BI. Not long back we decided to make a list of what would like to do or see the other one doing. Well, she wants to watch me either screw another guy or him screw me....Hell yes she will get to watch...sorta like me watching her with another woman.

I agree with Juniper the thought of all that cock mouth, cock ass, cock pussy and so on and so on gives me a hard on. I would love to meet another couple that share the same view point on male bisexuality. I think its just hot. My wife has played with me and another guy who was gay. Even though she didn't get fucked by him she did give us both some hot sucking action while he played with her clit. I got fucked by him while I was eating my wife very hot and she gave him a good blow job while I fucked her. Would be even hotter with another couple though. If I may ask where is everyone from. We would like to possibly host a couples night once or twice a month at our home if there is anyone in or around AZ that would be interested.

We are both bisexual, though she was recently only bi-curious. It only took one PG13 experience to change that However I have read others exclaim that enjoying sex with those of either sex does not make you bisexual. Apparently you have to be willing to feel love or have a relationship with people of either sex. I think that definition is flawed since not all heteros are willing to love or have a relationship either. It is unfortunate that bisexual men are so taboo, but it sounds like maybe we are approaching the LS at the right time, during a sea of change It really turns me on to think about the two of us in bed with another couple and all the different configurations of mouth, cock, ass and pussy to mouth, cock, ass and pussy. It boggles the mind

We have played with single men for years. We have found that 90% or more of them on the Internet are there for fantasy purposes only. They do not step up when it is time for real play. They like to play the part on the Internet, getting their cheap thrills and many of them even commit to showing up but very few of them ever do. We now only meet at the Swing club. We tell the guys that is where we are at and if they show up great, it not, no biggie since there are many others to get to know there. No use wasting our time on the majority that never show. BTW. We have found this to be true with many couples also, it is not just single men.