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Um, Andrew, im not engaging in sarcasm, but I’m pretty sure the whole thing is aimed at you. 😉 On a forum where most members lurk and only a few post, I’m always pleased to see more of the latter. And you are for sure a prolific contributor. My assumption is that you have many fine personal qualities that make you a deeply appreciated friend and highly valued to your loved ones. I’m serious about this. But I’m amazed (okay, maybe not quite amazed) that you were surprised after reviewing your responses to her that PSU Lioness would find them overbearing. Your post in question almost literally suggests to people that they should just admit you are right and they are wrong, and they should adopt your smarter and better reasoned position. I don’t think your perceive accurately how you come across in a words-only medium. I won’t speak for anyone else on this board, but I avoid interacting with you. But here’s my feedback. Like many other contributors to this board you are bright and well-informed. But I find the prosecutorial zeal with which you advance your opinions (some of which are perhaps not as fact-based as you seem to think) off-putting. My observation has long been that you don’t simply disagree with others, but you fail to respect their opinions. You often come across as though you can see only two sides to an issue — yours and the wrong one. You don’t discuss, you debate. Actually, it’s not generally a debate, in that your arguments are not more fully developed in response to the other person’s expression of their thoughts, just reiterated. As you have done in the post above, you just restate the same position, but with additional vehemence. Finally, whether you meant it that way or not your closing "Have a good day" comes across to me as aggressive to the point of surliness.

Thank you Petra Don’t know if I am welcomed back by all the others. Posts like this scare me away. I can handle self absorbed people but ask why I should get worked up by someone who thinks they are the brightest star. Why do I need to argue and have anxiety, I have nothing I need to prove, I just look and things from another side and share. Opinions are just that, there are just too many who have been taking their opinions way too far. A nice person just sent a DM thinking that I stopped posting due to harassment, it wasn’t the primary reason. I have had some personal issues that a bigger influence on my absence.

Probably the rare couple, BI Male/Str8 Fem

I did feel horrible. I was in a monogamous relationship and found myself in a threeway with a college friend and her friend. My first time with a female was an eye opener but letting myself be with a man who I just met made me feel like a cheater. With guilt I confessed to my then boyfriend. It caused friction in our relationship and chased him away. I felt I wronged my love. It took time to reconcile and we did and married. As a couple we have grown and realize that sex is sex. Sex is fun. Sex is respect. Sex is not always love.

Our first time was a mfm. We were both drinking and the subject came up and sounded fun to both of us. We called hubs friend who was handsome and well endowed. He was with us in a half hour and was started playing around. I was naked in no time. The guys got naked too. After a lot of body kisses, the friend got between my legs and entered me with the biggest cock i ever had. It was marvelous and I came so many times I lost count. He put a huge load of sperm in me that night. The next day we felt guilty about it. The guilt lasted three days and then turned into hornyness. We were nervous because hub had vasectomy and we didn’t use bc. The risk of pregnancy made us both hornier. The guilt was gone and we were back to normal less than a week.

I am going to agree with this statement. We are here to discuss the pleasures of swinging not to be dismissed as ignorant or be taught any takes on morality. I have been in contact with Lioness and she surely has not lost her roar. She is a beautiful young lady who has shared her journey from the beginnings with well thought posts that many on here have enjoyed. Does anyone here wonder why a poster suddenly disappeared, what happened to that poster? Was it health, Covid? I feel some posters died over the last few years in the same percentages as the general public. Do posters leave because they quit the lifestyle finding it was not for them. Are there those home life problems that some couples go through in life not having anything to do with the lifestyle? Or is it “toxicity” as noted? This thread was a question, Would you sell your sex IF it were legal. Simple question, Yes or No, not asking for your opinion on the blight of prostitution on your community. I ask why this community has turned into just another divisive way to push your thoughts on everyone. Peter you are correct in my opinion, though you do know what they say about opinions. To answer the original post, Alan and I have accepted dinners from those we have met. We are not involved in sex trafficking, drugs, or running a brothel next to your grandmother. We have met others at our home for sex, maybe we are a brothel in someone’s opinion.

My wife likes getting topless in our convertible when we go for backroads fun drives with very little other traffic. Worry about that a bit. However given how short she is and that she would only be seen by an oncoming taller vehicle at a closing speed in excess of 110(55mph limit), I'm guessing it's more a case on their part of "did I just see what I think I saw?"

I think that I told this story here before. As a lawyer, I was in a judge’s chambers where lawyers discussed cases with the prosecutor and judge. The clients were outside in the courtroom. Another lawyer represented a woman who was charged with indecent exposure. She was giving her husband a blow job in their car which was in a parking lot of a nude beach. Her lawyer said: “ Judge, this couple has been married for twenty years! This woman doesn’t deserve a citation. She deserves a commendation!” Everyone laughed very hard.

I'm Bi and my husband is Orally Bi.

Hubby has a rule for himself that made my journey into nonmonogamy comfortable and pleasurable - let your wife/partner decide whether she wants to talk about an experience, which aspects, and to what level of detail. Some couples have rules like, "You can fuck who you want, but I don't want to know about it," or "You can fuck who you want, but I want to hear every sexual detail," or "You can fuck who you want, but nothing emotional." Hubby always asks how I am doing, and lets me decide whether and what I want to talk about. Sometimes I just gave a one sentence reply, other times I wanted to babble on about the sexual or emotional aspects of what I had just done. Either way, he would listen, be empathetic, but never pressure me. This rule hubby has for himself was perfectly considerate towards me, so much that I didn't notice it except in retrospect.

Took many years and the entire trip has been amazing. Now the sex is off the charts!

We'd like to kick off our first post-covid play with a same-sex swap. Love watching another woman go down on my wife while I go down on the husband.

We are both bi and love it. Have been swinging for years but stopped due to COVID but now ready to have fun again. In South FL and getting the RV ready to start travelling and meeting people, first stop Caliente, ( I think). Would love to meet other bi couples..

Wife posting: we are interested in swinging with a bicouple. I love to be with another woman but I have not seen my husband with another man. He has done oral with a man. Looking for steady couple,in the phoenix area. We also into massage and oils.

I wanted to reiterate my point, clearly tell people up front what you want and what you are willing to do to do there, trade out and barter, it is part of the fun. Depending on how badly to want what you want, be willing to give what you need.

We are very upfront about it all. I have no problem doing things with whomever to keep it fun for everyone. Neither of us are interested in same sex relationships without each other. My husband WILL NOT kiss guys or fuck guys. With me or the other women he will suck cock and get fucked and he has no problem with anyone sucking him. We both have gotten where we rather enjoy lots of cum and cum play. And I love getting ass fucked along with him, especially side by side be whomever and however. We have both gotten pretty good taking even larger. Cum in us anally all you want, I also love taking pictures of it! Can't make it any clearer than that. It is not that hard to be upfront. You can almost always trade out with couples, I do, If the wife is all into wanting my man, no problem as long as we get to also do the things we would like to do (mentioned earlier). If she is all about eating and getting eaten I'm game but that is not that is going to happen. And so on.

I am bisexual and I'd call my husband Open, he has sucked a couple cock with me before.

Yep. bi-bi here.

That's not gay, that's just being polite.

We have found that most of the females we play with are bisexual. Usually the way we get started with a couple involves me playing with her a bit to get the guys going. Very few of the.men are openly bisexual but there are a few. My husband enjoys eating my pussy while I am riding a guy and will work on his cock if he lets him. Several of the "straight" guys have let my husband give them blowjobs in between strokes or they let him hold their hard cocks and guide them inside me. On rare occasions I have been a third and watched my husband fuck another guy. It's all an incredible turn on for me so we are happy when we find a willing couple.

When two of us women are together we are a bi-bi couple.

I love the emotions I have during swinging. In foursomes I get this lovely rush of adrenaline - pounding heart, dry mouth - when I realize there's a good chance I'm going to get a shot at this beautiful woman. The mystery of trying to find her g-spot or what turns her on. The sensations of having her perform oral on me. And of course the heightened orgasm with this new person if the sex is great. It’s different for me in MFMs with my wife. The curiosity as she first approaches him in a bar, wondering if she’s going to be attracted. The angst - not jealousy - as they begin the ritual dance of seduction. The sense of pride as he undresses my wife and sees her naked for the first time. The sympathy for her as she has her first orgasms with him. And the sense of reclamation when the other man is done with her, yet lying nearby as I bring her to yet another series of orgasms. Yes, the emotions of swinging are delicious . . .

Nope. It felt like something that I deserved. It was a feeling of empowerment that I was fucking them on my terms. Even more so because they both knew about the other and still wanted me anyway. At my request, they met. They were monogamous with me even though I didn't ask, probably because I gave them both as much sex and love as they could handle. In time we began relationships with other women because I wanted it, both because I am attracted to women and I wanted to be on the other side of nonmonogamy. It also freed me from my stifling religious upbringing.

Mee Too!!! I love the fact we're both there for one purpose...to fuck. Not to say I haven't had that w/women but I enjoy the non-emotional/all physical side of man/man fucking. Two hard cocks...blowjobs, pounding, rough, animalistic in nature. We leave, say it was great and usually text or call in the following days for more . Then we meet again, strip, fuck and relax with a beer.

The factors of age and experience bring so much to the dropping of the bugaboos about same sex experimentation. We find that older couples tend to be more flexible with sexual play even as their bodies become less flexible. Those hard and fast rules of heterosexuality seem to lose their hardness which helps the man's hardness. At some point it becomes more "Am I going to go through life never having experienced sucking a cock?" and less "OMG, I could never suck a cock!" This is especially true when your wife would love to see men sucking cock. Why the hell not??? For those truly interested in pleasing their spouses, those stupid rules against same sex play become less and less meaningful. Pleasing becomes more and more meaningful. After all life doesn't last forever. The closer and clearer we are to truly getting this, the more curious about all of sex we become.