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So an update on the subject, I had a conversation with my wife about this to gauge how she felt, she did admit it’s something she would like to do I asked about the how’s and when’s etc.. she says that what she says in her fantasies is how she would a actually do it so a stranger and if I also would allow it she would like it with no condom so she can enjoy the experience raw, again I’m open to this no problem even bareback. we will just now have to look at setting up properly when we can.

This is another Linda who might lend insight to why she doesn’t start action, men can be dangerous if they are grabbed while sleeping. My take is most middle of the night sex starts with an erection.

Surprise him sometimes and make a move that wakes him up. Most guys don't like being awoken except when it's by a horny woman looking for sex. Nice.

1 Corinthians 13 1 Love is patient, love is kind... it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Ours was pretty simple. I knew that Daniela was used to sexual variety and I was fine with her having sex with other men and women. We started in the lifestyle by Daniela "hotwifing" so she could feel comfortable and because she gave me all the sex I needed. She started playing alone with two exes (separately) because she still likes them and the sex they had, it was safe, and for me it was no big deal since she had fucked them many times before. We met with the other guy twice socially before they started playing so everything was known and clear to everybody - she is married, I was good with it, etc. After fucking him several times and telling me about it the way she wanted and in as much little or detail as she wanted, she wanted me there. Neither of us had any kind of threesome before, this was the first. It was oral on him, he fucked and came in her, then I fucked her sloppy seconds. Pretty much the same with the second guy.

Michael has no problem with me enjoying a random man we can talk into joining us in a hotel room. I feel the excitement of the whole meeting starts with our conversation with a stranger, how they will react and what will happen. Most men we engage are happy to get a blow job, many will have full sex. Some will get hard immediately, some can’t. Some will go 10 seconds, some go very long. I normally say size doesn’t matter yet it does in the first viewing if he is outside a normal average. Pickups are not the only meetings we have, it is a fun side of our swinging. Convincing a couple is much harder to accomplish, very rare, and then there was a one couple who we have stayed in touch with who doesn’t live near us.

The talk she says is more along the lines of going to a club or a sex shop and just fucking in there with someone random she says it’s the thrill of it and also the dirty sex, as she says to have that experience it would only have to be without a condom on, bare sex the only way, would you happy let her do it?

True, but there are exceptions. You know these people best and who might be open to sex play without drama. When we first started with my wife hotwifing, we had good experiences with my wife's ex lovers. She knew them as normal and safe, the sex was good, and they were exes for a reason, which made me feel comfortable; friends in a way who she had already fucked.

Fun to read a RECENT POST about "Talking Dirty: Real or Fake." In my limited experience (several times as the extra M in a MFM 3some or more enjoyable MMF), I feel obligated to ASK before ACTION. Afterall, as the "invited guest" in a 3some, it is MY DUTY to augment the event and NOT be selfish. Accordingly, and the EXPERIENCED swingers KNOW this is true, HUBBY LOVES WATCHING HIS WIFE GET FUCKED or sharing her and his cock. So, I make it a GOAL to find out WHAT the main objective is and ASK, "would you like for me to verbally voice descriptive naughty words about WHAT WE ARE DOING? So far, I've never been told no. I start out with additional questions: "do you like to watch your husband smile as I fuck you?" "Do you want him to kiss you while MY COCK IS IN YOUR PUSSY?" Thus, these words are based upon what IS REAL! Once we finish, depending upon how I read the situation (does the couple jump up and get dressed? = TIME FOR ME TO GO!) BUTT IF, the wife lies back spreading her wet pussy in the nude, then I may ASK, "if you wanted to do this again, what else would you desire?" And as several contributors above more experienced than me have affirmed: THAT is a GOOD TIME to bring up future desires (WITHOUT RETRIBUTION or frowning face). Fortunately, in more cases than not, I was invited back. THIS (3some swinging) is ALL ABOUT the COUPLE's PLEASURE.

Over morning coffee, driving down the road together, or sometime neutral and relaxed like that, just say: "Hey, the other night when we had sex and you were talking about _____. That was really really hot!" and then just see what she says. If it is just 100% fantasy to her, she'll almost certainly make that point in her reply. If she is 100% interested, she may use that door you just opened to directly express her interest. If she is somewhere in between, which is most likely, then it will be up to you to decide where to take that conversation. Everybody has a "how we had the first swinging talk" story. Ours was along the lines of "hey, what do you think about going to a swingers club just to check it out?" Some friends of ours, it went like some out of town friends of theirs came out that they were swingers. Driving home from that visit, they were talking about it. That discussion turned into a hypothetical "Well, if WE were to do it, how would WE do it?" When the answers to that question came quick and easy and everybody on the same page, then it's a short leap to "Maybe we OUGHT to do it?"

Since you're up for it, move the conversation along. Ask her who she would be interested in fucking. Regardless of who she suggests, don't criticize her choice, play along. Suggest someone you want to see her with. Be generous with your wife as you discuss and explore. And sometimes reality far exceeds fantasy. My life, and particularly my sex life, is now better than I ever imagined.