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So what I found to be handeld differently between the majority of Swingers I know in RL (mostly people from three diffrent Europen Countries) and on this board (mostly US people) - Over here people don't care about cheating singles. We think it is their problem if they get caught doing something they should not do - The idea of Off-Premise. While there are M&G gatherings where people can go just to meet and talk, they usually have a back room for play also. - The Onlookers. I don't think I ever came across someone who was just in a club to watch the freaks having sex. I guess the entry fees here are high enough to ensure that only people who at least have some interrest in swinging actively think it is a better place to hang out then a regular night-club - The idea of bareback. If it happens then only behind closed doors. People who (would) openly admit that they don't use condoms (would) have a hard time finding playmates or in the case of some clubs even being allowed inside. - F/F play On a regional plattform it is often said by some bi-women that most couples that are listed with a bi-curious female are not to be taken siriously. Those profiles are mostly being handeld by the husband who wishes that is wife would engage in bi play before his eyes. But if they happen to get together the woman often turns out to be against it outright or that she will lay flat on her back and endure it because her guy wants her too. I also see very little f/f play in the club, but I guess this is because my club of choice has a monthly girls only party, and that most genuine bi or bi-curious ladies attend there. I guess this is it for now...