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Probably most of us have gone through both of these scenarios. We figured if you paid for a membership you were real and not just picture savers. We even were sent pictures we never asked for then learned about reverse picture searches. On a positive note, we did meet some real members even if they weren’t totally what they said they were. We were fooled about a dozen times before finally a real couple showed. We then took additional measures before setting up any meeting as we were duped too many times. We decided to not renew our profile and now are keeping to having fun with those we know.

We will admit that we do not often respond to messages sent to us! Sometimes it is, because the person who sent it clearly did not bother reading our profile before they message us. Maybe it is the people that have no pictures on their profile, only have pics of one of the couple, the cock pic losers or the people that direct the message at her and not us. All these things we make super clear are not going to get a response and may just get you blocked. We also sometimes just do not bother responding if we are not interested! The reason for this is, because there are just far too many people that get butt hurt if you say no thanks you are not what we are looking for. Can’t tell you how many times we have had insults and even threats thrown at us simply for saying we are not interested. The latest one was a couple that messaged us first interested in meeting. When we said we are not interested their response was you guys would have been a down grade anyways. Thought this was funny considering they messaged us fist. We have also been threatened to be beat up in the past by goofs that didn’t like hearing no. It has become clear to us over the years that some people are just not cut out for this lifestyle. If you can’t realize that attraction matters and not everyone finds the same things attractive then you should just not bother.

When we first posted we felt the necessity of answering because it was the proper thing to do. We didn’t want negative posts about us chasing others away. We learned that there were more messages from those we had no attraction to or felt phony. I have mentioned in the past that the very first meeting was made based on a physical attraction and the thought they would never show up. I am not sorry we met them even if it wasn’t ideal because it broke the ice. It also made us think about all the real couples who like us were being scammed because of their innocence. The last thing a person who is nervous about what they were thinking of doing needs is some idiot to ruin that first n

David and I were invited to a party that turned out to be a swimsuit optional swim party. After a while we did strip. After swimming we all went inside, the host asked us if we had ever been to a swing party. We told her no she then dared me to suck David's cock in front of the 9 other coupes.after some egging on I startedcsucking him. As I was one of the guys came up behind me and kissed my pussy..then he guided his cock in me. I was suprised but it felt so good I did not resist

Thanks, we try to see all sides. Take your feelings out of this (I know, it's hard to do, but just set them aside for a moment). Try just taking him at his word for a moment. He says he isn't bothered with you getting to play and him not playing. Can't you just accept that he's telling you the truth? Maybe, as trust and communication increases, you might feel different and not mind him playing...and he still might not be interested in doing it with anyone else, or maybe he will. It doesn't matter TODAY what might or might not happen in the future. Don't over-analyze this, just accept it and enjoy the moment. The only real question here is are YOU enjoying what you are doing or are you only doing it for him? In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: Ummmm, cake!

Whenever we say we will be there, we are there. Nothing worse IOHO than saying you are going to do something then you just don't do it...well, there's worse but usually it is on a much larger scale and it quickly can become political so we'll just stick with there's nothing worse.

How about setting up a date and then when time to confirm radio silence? That is always annoying.

Let me tell you something from my own experience. I was SWEARING I was not bi. Until we met the right girl. Then, with her, it became obvious I wanted to experiment, here and now As I was not experienced, the first thing I did with that woman was mutual masturbation. That gave me the opportunity to play with another girl's pussy without it being too weird. And while doing that, she began kissing me... which I absolutely loved! SO, let your wife discover her bi side. Cos, news! YES SHE DOES have a bi side. We all do. (and you too, by the way 😉 )

….yeah……we get that a lot at parties……when talking in a group it is a lot of fun having this type of conversation and lots of laughs when someone has a….”OMG that’s why” moment. some others but not all there is: • Soft Swing or Swap – when couples exchange partners but do not have intercourse and is generally limited to swapping orally.• Full Swing or Swap – when couples exchange partners including intercourse.• Lifestyle – a term which has evolved from simply being a swinger. and refers to being sexually open minded and does not preclude a person to multiple partner play. • Same Room – when a couple plays or swaps it is within the same room as their partner. • Separate Room – swapping and playing in a different room than your partner. • On-Site Club or Party – A lifestyle venue that has on-site facilities for play. • Off-Site Club or Party – A lifestyle venue that does not have play facilities on-site. • Voyeurism – The act of watching others have sex. • Exhibitionism – The act of having sex in front of others. • Newbies – People who are new to the lifestyle. • Meet & Greet – generally held at a regular venue with the intention of a group of lifestyle couples meeting to gauge interest in a no pressure atmosphere.T • Hall Pass – one part of the couple has been given permission to play alone without the other partner – take heed of this and always verify with the other half of the said couple. • MFM – Male / Female / Male 3-some. • FMF – Female / Male / Female 3-some. • BDSM -a form of personal relationship centering around activities that are erotic but may not be sexual, and which may include the consensual use of restraint, intense sensory stimulation, and fantasy power role play. • BBW – Big Beautiful Woman. • Dogging – When people meet in parking lots at a given time, and have sex in their cars. Some people swap partners, some singles looking for couples or other singles, and some people are more exhibitionists and just want other people to watch them. • Vanilla – Non Lifestyle people / activities. • Choco or Chocolate – Lifestyle people / activities. • Unicorn – A single female in the lifestyle. • DRDP- Different room different partner • SRSP- Same room same partner .. SRDP— SAME ROOM DIFFERENT PARTNER there is more than three times this when include various relationship identities, gender identities, sexual identities and fetish persuasions. Always know what you are saying yes to…….. What a wonderful world we live in.

Great point! Both people in the couple should look at the message and profile together before deciding if it is someone they are both interested in. More than a little sure many guys specifically jump the gun before even consulting their wife to see if she is interested as well. Then a bunch of time is wasted chatting only for her to finally come along and say not interested at all. In most couples the woman is going to be the one who is more selective, because they can be with the hoards of men throwing themselves at them. As I like to say the pussy has the power in this lifestyle. God knows that pisses off all the alpha dom men out there.

You made me think that I have been ignorant about what the combinations meant. I thought FMF and FFM were the same as well as MMF and MFM. Now I see the real meanings. Wait until I tell Alan that he never did MMF. Now it all makes sense.

Also important to note HE didn’t stop the other women, she did. I don’t recall ever having someone start giving me head if I didn’t show interest?

After I've cum, I'm often too sensitive for additional stimulation, but the wife and I have made a game of sort of finishing on our sides and trying to keep me 'docked' inside her in spoon position. When done right I stay hard enough to remain inside her as we both come down from our orgasms and lightly nod off. This usually ends with her gripping her pussy down on me a for a few minutes later to coax my interest back, me flexing into her pussy until she starts responding and humping back or in a few instances us actually passing out for an hour or more with me still docked inside. One time I recall waking up just in time to deliver a second creampie... apparently she had been doing some serious keegles on my dick and managed to get me off without me waking till the last second.

Refer to the following thread and read JessicaJamison's post. Is sex different for women than it is for men? - Let's Talk About Sex - Swingers Board Though my SO can take care of herself, I would be quite upset if she ever encountered someone who pushed something that she didn't want. If I'm in another room and find out later, the next day whenever that some guy pushed her to do something, was overly rough, etc I'd forever be scarred, and the consequences for the other man would likely get me in serious trouble.

My first time with two guys was so hot... My sub arranged a massage with two guys. He arranged a nice hotel suite and he told he has a surprise for me. Two guys came into the hotel room with a massage table. I hoped on it and i loved the 4 hand massage... and then it started to get hot... one guy opened my legs and touched me between my legs. I was already wet and the other guy told he after a while to turn around... now my front was massaged and it started to get more erotic and sexual. I loved it a lot... and my sub watched the whole thing... hot - hot - hot

To be honest, our first MFM wasn't great. It wasn't bad mind you, but it wasn't great. It was good to break the ice of swinging, and start to figure things out for us. But, it wasn't great. My wife and I had agreed before we dipped our toes in the pool that we would keep at it for a bit, and not base our opinion of swinging on one or a handful of times. We understood that just like vanilla dating, there was going to be a few duds along the way. We might get lucky the first couple of times, and we might not. We connected through SLS, and met up at a swinger club in the region. The second time was with the same guy. I honestly can't remember the details. Again, it was ok but not great. If we'd based our opinions on those two MFMs, there's a fair chance we would be monogamous today. I think we would have concluded, "Fun, but not really our cup of tea" and moved on. Now the third time.... We met this guy for dinner, and we all really clicked. I'm a veteran, and this guy was still on active duty. My wife has a bit of a thing with guys in uniform. My wife and I have a non-verbal means of communicating when we're deciding on whether to play with someone. Along the way, one of us will squeeze the thigh of the other. The other will squeeze back; one squeeze is yes, two is no. After a while, I squeeze my wife's thigh. I immediately got a very enthusiastic squeeze back, and knew she was really into him as I suspected. We went back to his hotel room, and things got busy pretty quick. I think my wife was naked in about 5.3 seconds, and us two guys rapidly followed. We spent quite a long time having sex. Primarily, it was the other guy having sex with my wife. I was very happy with that, as my thoughts were that I could have sex with her any other time, but she couldn't have sex with him any time. My wife had an absolute blast. She could not get enough sex from this guy. She loved it all, made absolutely delicious noises while he was fucking her, and probably came a half dozen times. It was toe curling sex for her. One of my favorite memories from that was her on her hands and knees, he was fucking her from behind, and she was giving me head. The combined motion of her being moved by him vigorously fucking her and her moans of ecstasy while I was in her mouth were absolutely delightful. After we left, and got in the car, my wife said with a huge grin on her face "Ok, now I'm a swinger!" A few days later, she got to have a solo date with him, and once again had an absolute blast. During that solo date, he told my wife that he hadn't been able to cum from oral sex alone in many, many years. My wife took that as a challenge. She is quite talented at giving oral sex, and ...challenge completed It's 14 years on now, and we continue to play. It's not as often as it used to be, but we still very much enjoy it. The journey continues.

Ours was pretty simple. I knew that Daniela was used to sexual variety and I was fine with her having sex with other men and women. We started in the lifestyle by Daniela "hotwifing" so she could feel comfortable and because she gave me all the sex I needed. She started playing alone with two exes (separately) because she still likes them and the sex they had, it was safe, and for me it was no big deal since she had fucked them many times before. We met with the other guy twice socially before they started playing so everything was known and clear to everybody - she is married, I was good with it, etc. After fucking him several times and telling me about it the way she wanted and in as much little or detail as she wanted, she wanted me there. Neither of us had any kind of threesome before, this was the first. It was oral on him, he fucked and came in her, then I fucked her sloppy seconds. Pretty much the same with the second guy.

Well my true first MFM was in college. Drunk and at a party with a guy I was kind of dating and his best friend. Drunk as well the three of us ended back at my apartment and in my room enjoying ourselves. Fast forward to after being married and being open to swinging and it happened with one of my coworkers at the time. I was working at a store as loss prevention and we hired a new guy that I was to be training. Basically our job was to watch people shopping on security cameras or go out and walk around the store as shoppers and see if we saw anything. This meant a lot of time together and talking so him and I got close and he began referring to me as his best friend quite frequently with some flirting as well. Not to hide anything from my husband I did introduce the two of them and they got along well so it was not uncommon for the three of us to hangout or spend time together. My husband would often say that he felt my coworker had a crush on me and wanted to be more than best friends. The three of us ended up going on vacation together and one night while on vacation we were enjoying a hot tub and a fair amount of drinks. Apparently my coworker was being quite flirty but I had not really noticed but it caught my husband's attention. At one point my coworker went to get a few more drinks and my husband and I had a quick conversation about this and should we see what would happen if we played into it. My coworker returned and we enjoyed our drinks and I was a bit more flirty myself before my husband decided to be the bold one and suggest we go up to our room and see what happens. I do not think either man even hesitated and soon we were back at the room enjoying ourselves.

Our first time i had been talking to the wife for about a yr now about watching her suck another guy ever since i found out she had been fucking her boss and that he had a really thick cock i had wanted to see her take one she had trouble taking my 8 thick cock she was a virgin when we 1st started going out and niave about sex i had been teaching her everything and since she had been sheltered her whole life by her parents she wanred to experience what all her friends had been for a while i walked her through how to suck dick how to jerk on a coock what cum tastes like had to tell her she'd eventually like it but she wouldn't relax and just let things happen and her pussy was so tight it hurt like it was trying to peel the skin off my dick and that was one reason she had given for not liking to have sex vaginal so when i found out this guy had been fucking her for a few months and how thick he was i made her tell me everything they did where when how how many times and she told me he would get on top of her and force her legs to spread as far as they could to open her up then he would force it in slowly asking if she was ok to go on or to stop cuz she was having to tug on the sheets and kinda yell out well she didn't like doing that so she put pillow over her face so no one could hear her she said she would tell him to keep going cuz she would get super wet then once in he would let her get used to it then start pumping her a little at a time till he was doing full strokesi couldn't believe what i was hearing i wanted to know how his dick felt i know it was tight on my cock his must of been being choked back then i noticed on 2 diff times that after she had gotten hm fr work and we had sex that i could barely feel her pussy so i thought some thing was up but had no proof so once she used a trick he taught her she used on me i knew someone had shown her how to do this with her tits till yhis day if i meet him im going to thank him and shake his hand for showing her how to properlly use her tits most girls never know how but any ways we had been talking about 3sum she just thought i was trying to be sneeky and blackmail her but after about a yr we were. Playing around witth sildo and me in her together i had took some sexy pics and i had given her 3 names of guys who might be good to join us during our role playing she was getting bolder and more confident about what shed do well i told her i showed one friend her pics she didn't believe me and i was making it up but i also told her he had theem she wanted to know y i said u know he's jacking off to them and she didn't believe. Me but the phone rang it was him and it was late when we hung up i told her he said he brought pics back there on my car windshield so i got them from where i had them and went out side like i was getting them and went back to bed with them now she didn't know what to think except to ask me what he had said when i told him so now i knew i had her close and i had been talking with him now cuz he was now over daily due to his getting divorced and so i started holdinng back on sex for 2 weeks and she has been used to getting some practically daily so now she's bugging for some dick so one nite my friend and i were up and she had went to bed it was hot out so she only had on panties when she was out for sure i ask him if he wanted to see her naked so we go into room and i. Pull sheet back he's ckin it out i asked if he wanted to grab her ass now he's getting nervous about getting caught soo i tell him watch this go sit in the darkest corner and watch so he did i climb in bed and start touching her and once she figured out what i was. Doing she woke up and pulled her panties off and starts fingering her self whiile im all over her now she wants to suck dick i lay down she goes down fingeringg her pussy good making good noise all rt in my friends faceso i start telling her i brought someone hm with me and he's waiting for her to go get him she thought it was just us role playing so she starts talking about what she'd do so after a bit i started telling her realky someones here she finally believes when i told her who it was and tbat he was already in room she kinda stopped and looked i called out to him to say something i had to tell him 3 times before he. Did then she felll on bed and covered her self and he says it's to late for that i've seen everything already close up so i pull sheet off and she just lays there naked with us staring i tell her he was just going to watch bbut she. Didn"t feel comfortable i said y not she. Goes whats he goinng to do u know he's going to get. Turned on so i. Say he'll jack off if thats ok with u and she. Keepa talking about thats crule sending him off like that so i say what about u sucking his dick then and she goes only if he wants me too after that i fucked her and he got his cock sucked for 3 nites before he got to fuck her and she was so hooked that we fucked4-5 nites a week for first 3monthsthen it lasted for 10 yrs

Our first MFM "scene", technically, involved the two couples we played with at first. The same night she explored soft swap for the first time, we decided to try another session with the other couple. The wife from the couple we did *not* know well had gone down on me and Mrs. E was a little high on the excitement and wanted to reciprocate. Once I got hard again, it was her first spitroast, bent down over the couch in the living room of the couple we did know. We'd gone into it with a mindset that we were on a mission to explore oral and see where it went, and we were both very happy with the experience, and, in retrospect, lucky it all worked out so smoothly. Maybe more conventionally, the first time we tried pure MFM with a third alone, we were on vacation abroad. It had been a bit since we'd explored and on the ferry ride over, we talked about loosening up and trying something crazy if it came up. A couple days later, I walked away from our beach chairs for a while to get us drinks and snacks, and by the time I got back, she'd managed to attract a conversation partner while sunbathing topless. When I got back, it took her a little coaxing to discourage him from bolting but he eventually figured out what was going on and agreed to come hang out with us in our hotel room. She ended up between us on the couch, so-called "ski poling", stroking us on either side while making out with him while we fingered her. After a while, she moved her head down. After we both came, we said our goodbyes and he very quietly gave me his number in the corridor as he'd be around for a while. I figured we'd be done there, but she brought it up later that night (the next night? it's been a few years now) that she regretted going that far and not going further. I had good news in that I could invite him back, and sure enough, we met for cocktails that drifted back to the hotel and to Mrs. E getting pounded from behind, bent over my lap sucking me. I remember that he had his orgasm, it made her orgasm, and that made me orgasm. It was already *very* late when we started, and much later when I let him out of the room on the patio to the beach. I deleted the number after that. We had a blast and it really opened her up to trying to pick up thirds when we were out of town.

I have a “special” yellow bikini that I will wear if I see the crowd around the pool or beach is the right mix. It’s just sheer enough that you can just barely make out my nipples and landing strip. It drives my husband wild.

I notice a theme here about the longer a man can go the better for the woman. As if fucking is the way to a woman's orgasm. It is not in many and perhaps the majority of cases. My wife gets quite frustrated with men who want to prove their manhood by how long they can fuck without cumming. We celebrate orgasms. My wife may start to think you're not aroused by her if your fuck for a long period without orgasm. Our problem with men hasn't been cumming too quickly. Rather the opposite, taking too long to cum. She likes a man to cum, she likes me to cum, she likes to cum. Once in a while she will cum during fucking. But it's not during long spells of fucking. It happens during intense eroticism, from the spirit of sex, not the mechanics of sex. Most often it's during very loving intercourse. Sure a man's body relaxes and crashes somewhat after ejaculation. But it is not absolute. By practicing you can go from ejaculation immediately to going down on her. She is hot, ready, and will quickly cum with such loving attention. Oh no, going down on someone you've filled with your cum??? Oh my god! It's actually quite erotic, if you allow your mind to overcome the programming that says oh my god. If you'd like to take your lover into orgasmic bliss, making love to her with your lips and tongue after making love to her with your cock is amazing. And quite intimate.