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A great post, but may I add that sometimes people aren't necessarily the same person over time. It's not just the hetero/homo/bi thing, but also the attitude toward being monogamous for themselves and their partner(s), whether even to have a partner, wanting children, an individual's view of their own sexual identity.

For me, yes it is.

That does raise a good question, who does go naked below the waist first? Your friend or your wife? Usually it's the woman giving the guy a blow job first, but it would be interesting if she got oral or fingered first. Or maybe they could just fuck.

Yes we teach as well as learn sometimes. But now I would say from the past few years more of teaching others than learning. as now a days there are more new people in the lifestyle and are amateurs. And i would also compliment some of them as they become good in it and then they become teachers. Lol

Absolutely agree with you! People grow, learn and change the way they view what works for them in many situations in life.

By being respectful of the others. Not everyone having sex wants to be interrupted or wants you to join.

She needs to sharpen up and take responsibility for her actions. This heat of the moment excuse only goes so far. I agree with the swinging break suggestions.

This doesn't get better with only time. It might be a good idea to step back from playing temporarily until you can sort this out with her. There's a misunderstanding here, and swinging right now is only going to make it worse.

It is really great that so many people have learned to discover their true sexuality through swinging, but sorry I totally disagree that everyone has a bi side! Too me this blanket statement is like saying everyone is the same. Which would be pretty damn boring. My adult daughter is lesbian! Absolutely no attraction to men at all. Thinks they are gross and pigs. She is not at all bi. Our very close male friend is gay! Does not find women attractive at all. Gets repulsed if you talk about sexual acts with them. Not at all bi. Missus Enhancer is bi sexual! Is equally attracted to both males and females. She has known this since she was old enough to have sexual desires. Never acted on it until we were together and it became quickly clear to her that I do not judge people by their sexuality and think everyone should live their sex life the way that suits them best. This lifestyle gave her a chance to have the best of both worlds and for that we are both satisfied. I myself am only attracted to women and only real women! I am 100 percent not homophobe and completely secure around other naked men having sex with her or other women. That being said man on man play is an instant turn off. Shuts down all activity down stairs for this guy. I do not want a penis in my mouth and I do not want one in mine. Not at all bi. Be who and what you are, be proud, but do not feel the need to justify it by claiming everyone else is or should be the same! It is okay that some of us out there are just plain vanilla straight. It is almost the new taboo in today’s world to be that way.

My first MFM was many years ago, with a monogamish couple who were social friends. I’d been playing with the woman for about a year. She and I had casually discussed the possibility of a threesome that included her husband; it was something she said they’d discussed, though notionally rather than with specific intentionality — and for sure not specifically with me in mind. A few months later we were at a sporting event and their accommodation for the night fell through. I hadn’t checked into my hotel yet, but had reserved a room with twin queen beds. I told them they could stay with me. When we got to the room there was just a single king bed. Well, it was big enough to share, but I wasn’t expecting anything sexual would happen. It had been a hot and humid day and everyone needed a shower. I went first and came out of the bathroom in my light cotton bathrobe. She went next and emerged in a nightie that was briefer than I would have expected. (She and I had always undressed — not dressed — for bed and when we’d sufficiently exhausted ourselves and we slept together it was nude. 😂 ) Her husband was last to bathe. While he was in the shower she and I started kissing. The possibility there might be sex now occurred to me. I was literally trembling. I’d long fantasized about being in an MFM but the opportunity had never before presented itself. "Relax. Everything is going to be fine," she said to me. I recall that despite her assurance my heart was still beating like a triphammer. He was wearing pajamas, tops and bottoms. We got into bed, my sometime lover in the middle between us. Before I could turn out the light, she said to her husband "This isn’t how we sleep" and started pulling her nightie over her head. He started getting back out of his PJs and I was even more quickly literally disrobed. And then the sex commenced. She rolled to face her husband and started kissing him while I watched and fondled her pussy from behind. Then she turned toward me, pushed me onto my back, moved down between my thighs and started sucking my cock. Her ass was up in the air. Her husband got behind her and while I was mostly focused on enjoying the blowjob I was receiving I did notice was holding both sides of her waist, so I assumed he was now fucking her. (She later told me that first round he was doing her anally, something she and I had up till then never done.) After he came we switched places. While she sucked him back erect I fucked her pussy until I came. We turned out the lights and went to sleep for a while, but I awakened aroused in the middle of the night and climbed on her for another round. "He’s taking me again," she whispered to her husband in the darkness. While I fucked her he fondled my balls. (I thought it was her, reaching down over my ass. But the next day when I commented on that to her she laughed and said it was her husband who’d been playing with my balls in the darkness while I was fucking her.) When I was done he took another round with her and then we finally got a few hours of uninterrupted sleep. She and I continued our FWB relationship for almost a decade while their marriage had some ups and downs — our several mutual friends agreed he didn’t treat her very well — until the birth of their first child. I’ve always believed (and still do) that adding children to a troubled marriage was a recipe for disaster. But in this case he went through a remarkable transformation and became much kinder and more supportive in their marriage. I really enjoyed that first threesome and three-ways have remained at the top of my list of favored recreational sexual activities. I solicited it with them as a couple on two other occasions, but they were never up for it. And she was such an enjoyable partner that I wasn’t that disappointed.

Let me tell you something from my own experience. I was SWEARING I was not bi. Until we met the right girl. Then, with her, it became obvious I wanted to experiment, here and now As I was not experienced, the first thing I did with that woman was mutual masturbation. That gave me the opportunity to play with another girl's pussy without it being too weird. And while doing that, she began kissing me... which I absolutely loved! SO, let your wife discover her bi side. Cos, news! YES SHE DOES have a bi side. We all do. (and you too, by the way 😉 )

Just tell your doctor that you have a "group practice." It's something he'll understand.

A great explanation. In particular, was enlightening.

Animals don't wear underwear to cover their private parts; humans do! We don't go to work naked. 🤣

IDK about all animals, but dogs, cows, horses, the ones we see IRL and on documentaries don't give a fuck if others of their species see them fuck. It's not that they "swing" or have "parties", "clubs", like to watch or be watched, have MFM or FFMs. They just don't care.

This was an issue for us, but the kids are old enough now that it's a non-issue. Since it stopped being an issue, we've always been same room. But, we're separate-room-friendly too. It's ok either way with us.

I suggest the same thing next time, but no panties.

Me, a voyeur. My wife is an exhibitionist big time. She loves showing her body in public. Things she gets away with. Loves showing those naked boobs anywhere.

I like both, especially on a nude beach. I like to be the peacock and flaunt it. In a club or house party I love to perform sex in front of anyone that wants to watch. My voyuer comes out on the nude beach, I like to people watch, especially to see who are the exhibitionists.

The first time a guy cum inside me he didn't hesitate to eat my pussy out with cum in it