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My belief is that if it is consensual, it's not cheating. Any agreement can be modified by further agreement of the parties. For us though, it doesn't matter. Since I already had my relationship with Red when David and I got married, we left "forsake all others" out of our vows. David was monogamous with me at the time, but I didn't want to be too obvious by making our vows non-reciprocal. My parents were astounded that Red was even at the wedding since he was my ex fiancé.

But no intelligence is not the same as artificial intelligence...not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

We in our poly family enjoy this as well, but almost always as an FFM situation. With FFM, that's not a concern. We're always bareback, and it's us women who go after the mixture of cum and pussy juice.

This is one of our favorite activities. Yes, the other guy plowing her needs to be ok with m/m oral contact. Probably not as popular here but we enjoy bareback play. That leads to very exciting cleanup.

Use a buzzer to get most of the hair above, around and on your shaft--this takes care of the lions share of things without the bumps/in-growns. From there try one of the Schick Intuituition razors with the soap bar all around to clean up your balls, taint and ass with as few strokes as possible. I've got very sensitive skin, but this approach tends not to leave me irritated and looks clean and fresh.

I need to chime in on this. I do nude beaches in Mexico and Jamaica, in Jamaica whenever K and I approached a couple from North Carolina , the man was on his lounge chair and tucked his cock between his thighs while talking to us. We thought it was an attempt to prevent an erection. Later on another man did this also but while lying on his beach towel. I never noticed any women trying overtly to keep her legs together, matter of fact a couple of women gave me a little show when they noticed that I was looking at them. I think on a nude beach most people will look and expect to be looked at.

My wife is on Ashley Madison with my knowledge, not everyone on there is cheating. She joined as revenge for my indiscretions and now we both have a better understanding. On AM women are free members so if there are bots it doesn’t affect her membership. We no longer hide our passwords and emails, we are an open book to the other with full permission to read everything. There was a data breach years ago so she set up an email she only uses on the site and now has a cell exclusively for those she meets. She never put a credit card on her membership. Not every man she meets is a scumbag. As @numex said about his wife and married men she met, men have reasons to be members. No sex at home, bad marriages, most men talk in bed about the why. This is not swinging in the purest sense, it’s consensual sex outside of marriage. I have no desire or need to watch my wife have sex with others. I read on here how men want to watch their wives do things, multi-men, gang bangs, or enjoy being cuckolded, I don’t. The times we met others together I preferred separate rooms. I have been with her with men she met for threesomes that were strange for me but fun in that strange way. Her meetings are set up now with me looking at the profiles and reading the texts of the men contacting her. I know where she is going and she only goes to better hotels, no hourly flea bag hotels. She has in her profile that she doesn’t want any long term relationships, one nighters are fine. Ashley Madison is not for everyone, there are fakes on all sex sites. I have looked at joining for myself, it’s not cheap for men and possibly there are female bots to get men to spend credits, I never joined. Most of the men are cheaters which I feel is safer over single men, they have to go home with clean health records. The best men to play with for her are men who can financially go to better hotels and restaurants.

Always helpful having your unique insight couplers, especially on matters such as this. Thank you for being part of our larger "family" here on the board.

Before we were married, Daniela's had on-going relationships mostly with married men. Usually more than one at a time. But she didn't find them on cheaters sites, she just met men struggling in their marriage in real life. Daniela believed that married men that she chose were safer in all respects, more grateful, and knew the boundaries of the relationship; there was love to varying degrees, but he wasn't leaving his wife. Daniela says that she saved marriages, didn't destroy them. She had several men over the years as lovers whose wives were struggling with post-partum sex issues. She would encourage them to tell her about their wives and coax them to let her meet them under innocent circumstances. She would compliment their wives, and then wives to the husbands. Daniela was in control - she would choose him in the first place; paid for what they did. She likened it to eating off the other woman's plate in a restaurant, "Yours looks better than mine." She would have him tell her of his vulnerabilities, of his sex life with his wife. When he would complain about his wife not giving him blowjobs or anal, she'd tell him that's what she was here for. None of them divorced, even the one where the wife figured it out and civilly let Daniela know by telling me that I must be a good fuck. Daniela says that she was, but an even better listener. Daniela and the other man's wife still communicate on good terms. So maybe that would be a good approach - it certainly would be an interesting one - find a married man in a struggling marriage and try to help the couple get through the rough times.

Our advice has always been the same to couples looking for an extra. Attend meet and greets, house party’s, join small swinger groups and go to swinger events and clubs. You do not need to swing with anyone there but be social, watch and talk with others. First it is much safer. Next everyone there…couples and singles….are all there with the same interests and mind set. There are vetted singles and couples. There are couples who play separately….sharing their spouses openly. Not one near you? Make it a weekend get away. An adventure. you are much more likely to find what ever you are looking for including a one and done. Edit to add…..we had a very high success rate doing this over a couple of decades to recruit 90% of our male talent for our group activities, MFM, MMFMM and gangbang activities.

We would never use the site personally! I imagine the quality of people you would find on there is shitty! Unless you don’t think people that lie and cheat are low quality people. Don’t think there is much safe about playing with people that don’t even respect their own partner. What kind of respect are they going to show complete strangers? Pretty sure if they are okay lying to their spouse they are not going to have much problem lying to you about any disease they might be carrying.

I have met men with no intelligence and have toys that know what they are supposed to do

There is something in there that makes me admire both of you.

My GF has been requested to do pee stuff so often I wouldn't even consider it odd any more. She's fine with doing it. She has also been asked to do food play with piss and cum. Scat has also come up before but she shot that idea down extremely quick. Puke play is another one that comes up a lot in one way or another which she has done. Pretty much any and every bodily fluid you can think of has been requested in one way or another lol