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Thank you for helping others into the lifestyle! We need more mentors and teachers!

My mom, dad and sister know of our family; it's hard to hide unlike in the beginning. Mom, despite her moral disapproval, has reconciled herself to the situation and is wonderful with the children, accepting all of them as her grandchildren (even the brown ones). Dad disowned me years ago and we are estranged. My sister is accepting but ... basically jealous. (Her marriage is always in turmoil, but they stay together.) Yes. Their like of our arrangement varies, as does contact with different relatives.

Yeah, I’ll bet they were…😉😂 Petra, I know you and your family are discrete about your relationship status. I believe that’s wise, given that your family includes minor children. But your comment above made me wonder if you have made your parents (or sibs if you have them) aware of your now longstanding family arrangement? And have others in your joint family made their own parents and sibs aware?

My belief is that if it is consensual, it's not cheating. Any agreement can be modified by further agreement of the parties. For us though, it doesn't matter. Since I already had my relationship with Red when David and I got married, we left "forsake all others" out of our vows. David was monogamous with me at the time, but I didn't want to be too obvious by making our vows non-reciprocal. My parents were astounded that Red was even at the wedding since he was my ex fiancé.

I need to chime in on this. I do nude beaches in Mexico and Jamaica, in Jamaica whenever K and I approached a couple from North Carolina , the man was on his lounge chair and tucked his cock between his thighs while talking to us. We thought it was an attempt to prevent an erection. Later on another man did this also but while lying on his beach towel. I never noticed any women trying overtly to keep her legs together, matter of fact a couple of women gave me a little show when they noticed that I was looking at them. I think on a nude beach most people will look and expect to be looked at.

My GF has been requested to do pee stuff so often I wouldn't even consider it odd any more. She's fine with doing it. She has also been asked to do food play with piss and cum. Scat has also come up before but she shot that idea down extremely quick. Puke play is another one that comes up a lot in one way or another which she has done. Pretty much any and every bodily fluid you can think of has been requested in one way or another lol

Yes we teach as well as learn sometimes. But now I would say from the past few years more of teaching others than learning. as now a days there are more new people in the lifestyle and are amateurs. And i would also compliment some of them as they become good in it and then they become teachers. Lol

Being nude has nothing to do with swinging. Nudists will say it’s just a feeling of freedom and nature. I have seen families enjoying the sun together. Maybe there are more swingers percentage wise on a nude beach vs a regular beach. That doesn’t mean everyone on the nude beach is itching to swing with you.

I think most swingers whether they consider themselves nudists/naturists or not, are comfortable with nudism. I've found that a lot of nudists are actually pretty prudish and want nothing to do with swinging or swingers.

There are many more swingers who are not nudist and definitely many more nudist who are not swingers!! Most Swingers probably do not have access to nudist facilities and don't vacation nude.

We were nudists for many years before we tried swinging. So we are comfortable at nudist resorts. Some swingers are not.

I have not automatically associated nudists with swinging. I guess always I thought of nudists as "naturists", just enjoying being free of clothing, and not necessarily looking at it as a sexual thrill. I had trouble understanding how one could think that way, but I guess I thought they had that figured out! It was only after being in the lifestyle, and spending time in some places that were clothing-optional, that I came to understand how you can have your times of being "nudist naked", without being sexually aroused all day long. The surprise for me is that there are so many swingers who are not comfortable in a nudist setting. I suppose there are some swingers who still have body-image issues, even though they play with abandon, and even do it with the lights on! Perhaps also some swingers are not comfortable with the "nudist naked" thing, unable to contemplate being around all those naked people without being aroused.

A long time ago, way before we even had thought about swinging, Mrs. cplnuswing had this yeast infection from hell thing going on. It just wouldn't go away. It would flare up, then get a little better, then flare up worse than before. This went on for literally months, and she had been to the OB/GYN many different times while they tried to figure it out and kept upping the treatment. So obviously, this put a kink in our sex life, not to mention making her miserable in general. Her doctor at this practice, who she had liked up to this point, was going on to her about how this was the time they were finally going to get to the bottom of it, and this drug was the one that was finally going to work, etc. and that "I'm know it's been so painful and uncomfortable for you, not to mention not being able to be intimate with your husband for so long now". Back then she was self-conscious and easily embarrassed, but every now and then she would totally surprise you and throw one off. She said she looked at him and nonchalantly said "when you want it bad enough, there's more than one place down there you can have fun with." She said his mouth literally dropped open and he stared wide-eyed at her until he finally gathered his composure enough to mumble "uh, yeah" and then just hurried through the rest of the visit while avoiding making eye contact. Evidently, he had led a very sheltered life, and must have been out sick the day they talked about anal sex in med school. She switched to a different doctor not long after that.

Was that our book, SW_PA_Couple? Mrs. Alura was never averse to telling a playmate exactly how to do something the way she liked to have it done. He (and his wife) was often grateful for what he had learned. Alura

I don't know about teaching but I'm sure I've learned something new from every woman I've been with. What would be the point otherwise?

We had to stop swinging many years ago because Mr. intuition sustained a...um...injury. I, uh...accidentally broke his penis during an especially vigorous round of lovemaking. He ended up with cracked penile cartilage which resulted in pain (obviously) and blood in his semen. He needed several months off (or at least low-impact sex) to allow it to heal. Anyway, I went in with him to his appointment with the urologist and he was explaining his symptoms to the young East Indian intern (don't know if culture has anything to do with sexual knowledge base, but I include it here in case culture might be relevant) and he furrowed his brows. "Well, how do you know there's blood in the semen?" he asked. Mr. intuition and I looked at one another, not sure what he was getting at. "What do you mean?" Mr. intuition asked in reply. "Well," he said, "how do you see your semen if you ejaculate during sex? (meaning inside the woman's body)" Oh my God. For real? Mr. intuition had to explain to the poor young fellow that sometimes a man ejaculates outside of the woman's body...like when he likes to plaster her with it. He blushed from head to toe. Welcome to the exciting field of urology, son.

I think it may be a cultural thing or the way the females were brought up. I too remember my mom always reminding me to keep my legs closed and now that I'm older, it's just a habit.

We have a European-style spa in our city that is also co-ed clothing-optional in the common areas such as hot tub, sauna, steam room, and indoor and outdoor lounge. I go regularly and most of the time everyone - males and females - is naked. I don't notice any females clamping their legs shut. Then again, no one was spreading them wide open either. When sitting in the sauna or steam room, I think most females are sitting normally, with legs slightly open. Granted this is not Germany, but perhaps it's cultural? Similar to some cultures where women don't shave their armpits? Personally, I am usually sweating like a pig and busy thinking how this is good for me that I don't even think about how I am sitting.