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What worked for me and my wife was telling her that she could be non-monogamous on her terms, that I wasn't looking to be with another woman or even get anything out of it other than her being happy. I gave her total control over the way we went on this adventure. After confirming this several times when we weren't engaged in sex, we discussed who she would like to have sex with. She had two boyfriends from the past that she liked, so I said it was fine with me. She met the first guy, then later we three had dinner together so that everything was clear to all of us that she was married, I was ok with them having sex, and she wasn't looking for anything more. Later we did the same with another ex of hers and she started having sex with him as well. She loved it, he loved it, and I was perfectly fine with it because it made my wife happy and I didn't mind because they were exes and she had fucked them many times before anyway. It was great, but got even better as we moved on, at her direction, to us having MFMs with them, then regular swinging (couples swaps), to playing in our closed group of married couples in various ways. It turned out better than I ever expected. So my advice is to let her take the lead and do whatever it is that she wants. Don't criticize what she does (even things she doesn't do with you), who she does it with, when (before you, after you), where (a hotel, in your bed at home), how often, or whether she wants to be alone or with you watching, participating. It will make her comfortable in the lifestyle and give you the most exciting and satisfying journey of your life. Good luck and keep us posted.

Neither my wife nor I had any type of threesome, let alone DP, before we were married and started in the lifestyle. The feeling of his dick moving inside her, regardless of who was in which hole, was strange and wild for me. I mean, after the visuals of her fucking other men and the sounds and movements of them in pleasure and orgasm, the feel of another guy's dick inside her was something else that I never expected. Afterwards for a while, when I was in her cunt or ass at home alone, I would put a finger inside her other hole just to experience the sensation more.

What's the accepted way to let others in the RV Park know you're swingers?

Anyone here care to share about their largest gangbang experience and where was it held? For me it was with 12 guys but there was another women (my BFF) in the room. It happened 3 years ago at my house. We knew most of the guys in it. There were 2 husbands, 3 guys from our circle of swinger friends, 2 guys of our parent's swinger friends, and 5 guys from a swingers site and our local club. It was loads of fun. We did pretty much everything you can think of, minus guys doing each other. None of the guys were bi. Most of the guys went bareback, only the ones we did not know wore condoms. We all played for a good 3 hours. I was so sore after that, I needed to take a few days off from work just to heal up. Haha

My name is Petra, but my nom d'amour is Petunia.

I agree with CuriousCpl. However, I feel it would be best to 'set the talk up.' Bedroom talk, fantasies, etc. can be played with during your sex. If she seems interested in playing that way and fantasizing, she may not feel that this is coming at her out of the blue.

The best advice I had gotten was to do it when there is no sex, intoxicants etc involved. Sit at your kitchen table or wherever is a good spot to have a serious conversation and be earnest about your interests and desires. Be honest, make sure they know that you love them, reassure them as much as you need. Have the conversation, let some time pass and 100% do not make it a demand.

We don’t use aliases. We use our *middle* names rather than our more commonly used first names.

We were six couples originally, and added one couple. No one has left the group, although like anything, some play more than others. On weekends we usually get together in two groups, although people don't stick to just one group. It depends on who is hosting, when, the location, who else will be in a particular group, etc. The emails and texts are flying during the week making arrangements. It's also not unusual for spouses to split up between groups for a particular get together, depending on where a favorite play partner will be. Around every six weeks we all get together. During the week there is a lot of alone play, threesomes, and swaps where the spouses switch watching the kids while the other mommy and daddy are elsewhere fucking. Explaining to the kids may be a problem when they're older. The one couple that joined us after we initially formed weren't even really swingers, they had just done a little honest playing on the side. They knew about our group, discussed it and really wanted to join. We all talked about it, and tentatively let them start the process. First, the pledge to be monogamous between themselves, starting the multiple STD testing, and in addition come to some of our get togethers for soft play, let us watch them fuck between themselves, and they watch us. Although they both had had partners outside their marriage before, nothing like our group arrangement. We wanted to be sure that they both had no problem with a group environment, casual swapping, and him and her being hands on with multiple people. Everything went fine (the women talked with her, the guys with him during the week to assess where their heads were), they passed the STD tests, and we voted unanimously to let them join. They are also very fit and attractive. We had an everybody attends party after they were accepted. I worried that maybe it was too much for the first time, especially for him seeing his wife getting a lot of attention, but all is fine. I wish we could find another couple like them.

May I suggest that after you confirm her interest in having sex with him that you three get together so that it is clear that everyone is on the same page. At dinner, after no more than one drink, tell him that your wife finds him attractive (she can smile and agree), you know, approve of them getting together, and would be flattered if he found her attractive enough for them to have fun. Tell him that you are stepping out of the picture now and that they can get in contact later to discuss and set up what, if anything, that they want to do. With both of you there at first, he's not wondering if it is truly a mutual understanding between the two of you. By allowing them to talk and set up whatever later, they won't feel awkward.

Yes I will talk to her and see how she reacts to it, if she seems to like the thought of this I will see what he says in some kind of way

You are doing well by not pushing her. You've opened a door. It's up to her to decide if she wants to go through that door. Keep talking with her. Try to have the best communication possible with her. Tip; don't judge her comments, or she yours. Don't be even slightly sarcastic or make jokes about what she says. Trust is built in this way. She will learn she is completely safe in telling you her deepest thoughts and emotions. Many couples are not able to do this. Whether you get into swinging with your wife or not, this is still an important thing to do. If you do get into swinging, having this level of communication is quite important.

I started eating my own while wanking to porn then got into enjoying other guys spunk too. Girlfriend and I love it big time

We fully bisexual couple and love the oral and eating the spunk from another guy and love the feel of my cock as I slip into his ass and love him in me

We are a very bi couple and really only swing with other bi people. Except in clubs but our swing group are all bi

We are part of a bare back full fluids sharing swing group and we all live close to each other and dirty chat is very much part of our fun

Ah, but you do have one rule - It's okay to have sex outside of the marriage. And so, it's impossible for you to cheat. Those who haven't set up a firm rule about this are likely to overstep bounds, potentially hurting their partner.

Depends on mood tbh, I occasionally swallow especially if someone asks otherwise I spit it out.

Two thoughts for further consideration - some spouses don't require that they know in order for play to be permissible. If hubby David or one of the others in our poly family was having sex with someone else without me/the others knowing, I wouldn't consider it cheating. OTOH, we'd share the stories. Second, what level of commitment is required to be cheating? Marriage, yes. But beyond that I wouldn't feel guilty if I had sex with someone who was in a relationship with someone else, but they weren't married.

Wife and I started in the swinging lifestyle in early 70's and from the very start we decided that condoms were not required. Of course this was way before AIDS and she was on the pill but we both thought the condom would take away the pleasure. From the very first every guy she fucked came in her pussy. At first she would douche after fucking another guy but one night I got to her before she did the douche and though she protested once I got my tongue in her cunt she was so turned on by the FACT THAT I WAS LICKING HER LOVER'S CUM FROM HER PUSSY THAT SHE HAD AN INTENSE ORGASM. I grabbed her butt and pulled her pussy to my face and loved the feel and taste. Then I slipped my own cock into her slick cunt and it felt so great. She said "you are going to mix your cum with his, aren't you?" You can bet I did, that time and every other time when she fucked another guy - and there were many other guys over the years, but her pussy never wore out and all the fellows loved her hairy cunt.

We women appreciate what you do, especially when we were girls expected to give blowjobs. Since discovering my Lesbian side, I too enjoy licking up pussy juices. And the variety! Clair's is slightly tangy, vinegary. Mine is musty, the first thing a man or woman does when going down on me is inhale deeply. Lora, surprisingly, has no taste or smell. That's my favorite. Being bi it's most satisfying, and it makes me jealous.

That's why my wife said that she preferred and had relationships, may overlapping, with married men. They were grateful, both her and the husband knew what it was all about - a relationship that was not going anywhere - she wasn't looking to break up his marriage, he didn't want to leave his wife/family. Daniela likes our situation now in our closed group of married couples. She gets the satisfaction of being within another marriage with the wife's knowledge and bi participation. And the kink she never had before, knowing that her husband, me, is involved with other women.

When we started in the lifestyle, it was Daniela only, hotwifing. I wanted her to be comfortable beginning to play as a married woman, although she intended to be monogamous after never having been so. Her first two men that she fucked were ex-boyfriends who she had sex with many times before to make it easy on both of us. To make it easy on the other men as well, we three would meet for dinner and put it all out there that we were married, and I was ok with her playing with him. It was so easy for me in fact that it didn't bother me, after all, she had fucked them before so no big deal. I was happy for her having the fun that she used to have with multiple guys going at once. It didn't turn me on, however, until she came home with cum in her cunt. I wanted her bad, and she wanted me. Eventually she wanted me there when she was fucking another guy and we had MFMs; first threesome for both of us. That took it up even further, fresh sloppy seconds. So for all the reasons in the above posts, there's something special about getting the woman you love after another man has had her. Exquisite.

I have noticed a correlation between singles (male and female) being more open to bare than couples. Perhaps it's the fact that there is less gravity, i.e. making a choice for themselves rather than their family, but for whatever reason that has been my observation--especially with single males and my wife.

I think male bisexuality is getting more and more common in swinging and will continue to present opportunities when people let their guards down with people they've gotten to know and just do what feels good. At a recent event I was engaged in a threesome with a couple my wife and I had played with several times with no MM contact. This session, the other male half took a few opportunities to stroke me, guide me into his wife, encourage me to cum in her for the two of them to share, rub my balls a bit, etc. Though it was a turn on, I didn't reciprocate as our female half has been discouraging of M/M contact, but it was interesting having this couple I've know getting this open, in a *very* hetero norm LS party hosted in a club that doesn't even allow SMs. Since my first experience, I've had a lot more indicators of interest from guys and wonder if I, myself, put off a certain 'open vibe' more so than times changing... hmm?

I usually take the pussy but I can do either. Having the guy get a nut out before going in her ass in DP is probably a good idea.

For me, the most visual aspect of sex is seeing my wife fuck another man or woman. Or two at once. Not only is it her beauty and attractive body, but watching her reaction to receiving and his to getting pleasure. With my other partners it is the difference between my wife and the other guy's wife - wider hips, smaller or bigger tits, different pussy, everything. That excites me.

Does front or back matter? Our guys have their preferences: my husband David prefers pussy, Red prefers the bum hole. In our poly family DP is infrequent, but when we do it, the guy going in my/her bum has already had an orgasm in a pussy or sometimes bum. It fixes the problem by evening out the timing

That's what I don't understand. Why didn't the women have multiple husbands? A woman can satisfy more men than a man can women.

I will be meeting him later today in a hotel, about an hour away. Michael wants to meet him before we go to a room for safety reasons, not to join us. Michael thinks I’m going to be disappointed, I’m more optimistic and excited. I’m sure I will hear more about his wife and his life. I don’t judge others when it comes to sex or how others live their lives. I have read much on morality and how it plays a role in swinging, we don’t push our morals on others. The vast majority of the population would say Swinging is immoral. There are those on here who say swinging should only be done as a couple, something I would have agreed with years ago, we’ve changed our feelings. Most morality is based on religion, deep rooted or superficially. Monogamy has never been a must if you read the history of man. Most characters in history have had sex out of marriage. If you deep dive into the lives of men in “the Bible”, Abraham was told by his wife Sarah, who couldn’t have children to have a child with her slave. There are many other stories of other men having several wives. Back to my “cheater”, should he divorce his sexless wife? Marriage is much more than sex. I know nothing about him or his marriage or family or why he finds looking for sex from someone, me, a better option to divorce. Sex is physical pleasure, not love or a more meaningful reason to stay together. In our brief messaging he never said anything negative about his family life except his curiosity to what he knows other men and women do.

We have seen and heard the same. Yes. Wow. There is a word for that woman: Asexual. And while being asexual may be fine and dandy, it is less so when an asexual person commits to marriage with a sexual person. Yet indeed that happens.

Several years ago I was talking with a female acquaintance who was a little older (40s), married, two kids and the topic slightly veered toward sex. She immediately shut that conversation down with "We don't do that anymore." Wow. Your place? Women who want sex, or more sex, don't have to swing or use an app, they can usually seduce a guy IRL without much trouble.

About a month ago a a Tiktok user of Madi Brooks admitted that she is a swinger and that she "shares" her husband with her mom and sister. I am surprised that it not been shared on here and people giving there 2 cent. Both me and my parents are swingers but I would never let my mom do my husband. My husband belong to me. Not sure if what Madi say is true and that. But that just too weird for me. It sound like one of the weird porn scene stories. Just too weird for me. But I guess to each there own. Like in my previous post I made a few years ago. When I was 16 my parents came clean to me and told me that they were swingers and my mom is bi. They wanted to come clean to me and be honest. I was shocked by what they told me. I had no idea that they were into that. When they told me I was playing 20 question with them. They were honest to all my questions. I was quite surprised by their answers. I found out they did gangbangs, orgies, groups, threesomes and foursomes, and other crazy stuff. They were even members at a local swingers club for a few years. I even asked them do I know any of their swinger friends, and they said yes. One of the couples were parents to my bff. After it was all done, I asked them if I could take part of the lifestyle and give it a try. My parents were a little hesitant about my request but they knew it might happen after they told me. So after my 18th birthday they took me to their local club and paid my first year membership. And I never looked back. During the early days of my swinging life I got to "played" with my parents swingers friends. I learn a lot of stuff from them. While my parents and there swingers friends got to "played" with my BBF ( GF ) For stuff with the family. Dad and I NEVER done anything, that a line that we NEVER cross. For me and my mom we only done 1 soft swap. We did a gangbang with 8 guys at the Hedonism. I was 21 and mom 48 at the time. Only rule I ever implied during the years was that my mom doesn't played with my husband and she was fine with that. Here the link for a news site from this story. https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/15529202/husband-mum-daughter-swingers/

This is a very interesting topic. Jess and I hate condoms. The bareback gangbang sounds hot.