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We have played with other couples where only the women played with each other and the men with their own wife in the past and it went well! It is the only thing we are interested in with other couples now after years of trying swaps. Most men in other couples however do not like this arrangement which is fine they do not have to meet us if that is the case. For us it has nothing to do with jealousy, we just prefer to have sex with each other over other people, because it is always better. The only thing that keeps us interested in the lifestyle now is her being able to fulfill her bi side when opportunity comes along.

Although our first-ever experience was mfm, when we joined a swing club soon after we noticed it was very common for new couples (including us) to start out with just the ladies playing with each other (while their men watched) then as things heated up the ladies would rejoin their respective partners. After a couple times playing this way then start to mix things up a little. That seemed to be a somewhat standard approach for new couples and definitely eased us into full-swap couples swinging.

We are interracial couple in our mid 30s exploring this life style. We will be in Vegas from June 26 to June 29 and wondering if there are opportunities to meet like minded couples. Any recommendations for clubs or other ways to meet ?

hard to put it in words. He not much of a watcher. He more a doer, which is fine. I am kinda like that as well.

Our scenario was similar but not exactly as yours. We looked for a single woman, a unicorn that Alan could watch with me. He never saw something I did before I met him, me and another woman. If we found the right female I don’t think I expected him to just watch. Didn’t make a difference, unicorns don’t exist so we found another couple. My memory says I was less worried of him with a woman, I was more worried how he would react watching me with a man. You are not the only wife who wants to experiment while fearing your husband with a woman. For years we met many just like you and because of our first time we allowed those we met go as far as they wanted. Most women are very anxious being with a woman the first time, we always tried to play just to their comfort level. So many women eventually want their husbands involved.

Keep it simple, start slow and enjoy the thrill of just thinking and talking about fun with others until the you want to actually do it. You can't second guess what might or might not happen until that moment arrives. Just take things slowly until you actually meet people you feel comfortable with. You can only know how you feel emotionally when the moment arrives so it is essential that you and your partner are on the same page. And the first swinging encounter needs to be one that leaves one or both of you not feeling so good about it. Good luck to you and just have fun.

I started in my early twenties with two guys who both knew about the other and loved me anyway; and still do. Highly recommend not waiting for marriage, then opening up. Go into marriage having discussed, agreed upon, and started practicing non-monogamy. Because even if you agree to be in the lifestyle, there are details that need to be mutually satisfactory.

First congratulations on having a great first experience. And if you all are building that special friendship it makes the experience/experiences together that much better. Enabling you all to experience a wide range of activities/fantasy with each other’s consenting participation. Especially over time, no need to rush, as each comfort level broadens. One responding poster mentioned her. Hand/closed fist. This is quite accurate and something we would explain and show our guests that belonged to our semi closed party group. The woman, or man makes a fist and you measure across the knuckles, most women are around 3 inches across on average. But once you know this you can easily determine approximate size/length of the man’s erection. Our many years of experience have proven that the majority of men do in fact average a little over 5” (plus or minus up to .75” variances). Our party group had many themes including multiple male events for women to experience if they had that desire. I actually had a stable of single and married (allowed to play alone) men that were verified that would not only show up when invited were actually “test drive” at previous events at our parties and other party locations. Their inclusion into our group was loosely measured by the women in our group who played with them. Following rules, guidelines, reliability, ability to participateplay well with others and a passion to please/pleasure women. Girth was harder to determine. We based it by telling women/men to save a toilet paper role, cardboard tube only, and grasp it in the closed hand without crushing it. It allowed to practice both techniques til you are used to it. Seemed to work great. The males in our stable varied from mostly all average length but we also had several that were on the smaller side (most popular requested male was a little over 4” long and more slender in girth) was a great friend of mine, a great woman pleaser, fast to recover but would continue playing with the women until he was ready again. His biggest asset, J was a pleaser that had great skills, charm, average looks with a mischievous personality…..made women laugh and truly enjoy themselves. I had eight in the stable that ranged from 7” to 11.5 (6.25” circumference, measured by two women in our group) O had fewer adventures then those much smaller but had several ladies that always attended the party when he was making the two state travel to attend. Average larger length was 8 - 9, average girth for most but some that were crazy thick from average to longer length. Someone for everyone of the ladies in our group (married or single). In that the vast majority of women never orgasm via penetration only a willingness and skill set of oral and manual pleasuring for the ladies was a high requirement. my point is of course the vast majority of men are some where in the average everything range, very few in the OMG range. Also, I can state plainly that jumping from huge to below average the guys had no issue to cum when women were penetrated. (basing this on personal observation both behind the camera or in front of it, men’s comments and of coarse mostly the women responses, as it should be)

Helen here and what I look for in a guy is longevity and looks really. Cock rings take care of a lot of the staying power. Our group orgy most weekends in each others homes and it is a wonderful lifestyle

Great story. I always find it amazing how everyone on these boards is above average. Every study ever done concluded the average erect penis is between 5-5.5 inches, with a standard deviation between .5 and .75 inches. Yet every man who writes about his states it is 7 inches. Without exception. The OP states his is 7 and his girlfriend's best friend is "9 or 10". Stunning. So the OP is three standard deviations beyond the average and this other guy is over 5 standard deviations from the average. The OP is nearly in the 0.3% of the population (3 standard deviations from the mean) and this other guy is basically in the nearly incalculable group. As for the orgasm during intercourse...my experience has been that women tend to orgasm when the man hits the g-spot, which can be done via modified missionary. The thickness isn't the issue, it is where the man is hitting inside the woman.

My wife says the same, she has never had a dick on which she hasn't been able to orgasm. She just needs to work it differently, sometimes cowgirl is necessary, but that's about it. Same from my experience with women's vagina, I've never had one to loose or slick for me to cum. One woman in our group is loose and when I'm going sloppy seconds with her it is a struggle because of the lack of tightness and friction. But you know, we make it happen and it is the most intense feeling.

All this size comments and my Angel barely ever makes a comment that a partner was too big or too small. I never heard that she couldn’t feel me due to being with a larger man. What gives here? I get the idea of seeing a big one but not that a big one ruins a woman for anyone else.

Our therapist who always keeps a very straight face almost burst out laughing when I used Nessy as a euphemism. I have told men I want to see their Loch Ness Monster, some understand, some don’t have any idea. It’s no surprise that some men are bigger when flaccid which plays into my want of that first look of a man. A larger flaccid one reminds of all those pictures we see of Nessy sticking its neck out of the sea with that bend. Size is easy for me to estimate, I know exactly how wide my hand is, very few are two hands. I have been with men not getting totally hard, a few, no matter the size I still have fun, I never blame him or myself for it. Size is more important to me in that initial showing, less important in the sex act.

So THAT'S where Nessy has been hiding! 😄😄 Ok maybe you stole it from another post, but it's still flippin' hysterical :) My wife did find Nessy with one guy. Absolutely huge dick. Downside; he had great difficulty in getting a truly hard erection. My wife still played with him all afternoon though.

Am I the only one missing this? Did your girlfriend's best friend have a good time? Did you give her a couple of Os? Since she was stepping down a size or two in dick size, were you extra skillful? Did you give her oral? Did she have to go back to her bf to finish off? It's good that you like watching your gf getting fucked and enjoying herself because if you don't take extra good care of the other woman, that's all you may be doing.

Talk about Unicorns, your gf hit the pot of gold. From real experiences of being up close to many penises, very few are really 7 inches and maybe one in a thousand are the Loch Ness monster. I don’t call myself an expert yet my thrill comes from unveiling a monster and from my many unveilings I am still looking for Nessy. (I stole that from someone else’s post). I found most guys might even think they have a 7,8,9 or 10 inches, in reality very few are over 6 or so, and most women just accept what guys brag about. Does size matter to me? Yes!!!

Your gf is lucky to find the two biggest dicks.

JoAnn saw on Oprah a movie-maker who had made a documentary about swinging. Oprah also had some swinger couples as guests. So she asked me, "would you and I ever do that?" That was six years ago. We each had vague concepts before and would have recognized the word "swinger". Time has proved that our concepts were all wrong. In retrospect, Oprah's guests represented the lifestyle accurately. A rare thing for TV.

Mrs. Alura needs no guidance. I used to hold her hair out of the way so I could see what she was doing but it's short now so I don't need to do that. I touch her shoulders or breasts depending on the position but usually I just watch her. She's gorgeous with her smile wrapped around my cock and that wonderful twinkle in her eyes.

My husband and I tend to do it with me leaning down over his stomach. Not quite in a 69, though we love that too. So he's usually playing with my clit with his fingers while I am blowing him. Other than that, he likes to gently stroke my hair while I do it.

Either stroking her face and hair, or trying to move her around where I can reciprocate at the same time!

I'm generally rubbing her back, reaching under for her breasts, touching her face or griping/stroking her hair (unless she is black, then we leave the hair alone, lol).