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We recently completed the build of our 'forever home', which we designed to be clothing-optional (aka nude-friendly) from the ground up, with an interior courtyard, hot tub, outdoor eating area and so on. It's therefore not surprising that some guests are looking forward to shedding their clothes, swimming, sunning, and using the hot tub nude. What's a bit surprising is how many choose to exercise the clothing-optional option. Maybe it's the simplicity. Maybe it's the time of life. Maybe it's a desire to relive years past. Maybe it's the judgement-free setting. Maybe it's the 'zen feel' we have created. Regardless, it has become the norm. Given an invitation to a clothing-optional home, what's your preference for a simple social event?

Agree on all points. We would add that nudists nearly always separate their state of undress from sexual thinking or actions. You are right to never “assume” and always clarify.

It actually depends on the couple. If they knew that we were swingers, then it's no problem and the clothes are quickly removed. If it is a couple that we know outside of the L/S, then we would REALLY NEED to talk with them before hand to find out what is expected. Keeping in mind the venn diagram that shows that all swingers are not nudists and all nudists are no swingers, but that there is a subset of nudists that are swingers and swingers that are nudists (we actually fall in that group), but we will not ASSUME anything before hand. Also, as we have said many times in the past, we do not swing with friends since we just don't think it is a good idea.

So sorry to hear that your relationship has ended, however, in an attempt to put a more positive spin on things, it's better to find out now (even though you have already invested several years into the relationship) than to have things continue for several more years before finding out that it wasn't going to work. This is why we are constantly saying love/trust/communication is so very important. Also, that swinging is the sprinkles on the ice cream sundae of life...not missed if they aren't there, but just that much better when they are. We have enjoyed swinging during the time we have pursued it, but if either of us wanted to walk away, we both would without a second thought. The relationship we have is so much more important than anything we do in it or as part of it. You really should take a break and take some time to recover from what has happened. We wish you the best and if you are even in Nor Cal, invite you to come over and say hello some time (we would love even just seeing a unicorn just once to know that they really do exist...lol).

Think we have that licked. That’s an Alan joke, sorry.

Thank you so much for your lovely and thought out response. I really appreciate your words and you absolutely worded my relationship perfectly despite not knowing me. It was very much about him, his thoughts, how he thought it should be and Why I was never quite enough or right in any element of it. I think taking some time to reflect on this is definitely a wise move so I can figure out which direction I wish to go in. I held such excitement for joining the swing world as a couple and how it may look, so it feels very different to take that path as a single. For one the fantasies now feel a little skewed so yes... I will take the time. If red flags are a thing, there have been many along the way to tell me that my ex partners desires were not based around "us" and more so about "him". It felt very micro managed which I now see was power and control. Often being locked out of our profile or the profile being deleted if I had angered him in a clash in opinion regarding how to navigate this, but no bigger sign of my irrelevance than using our couples profile to pursue more for himself whilst having prevented me from being part of it or accessing the site. It was often used as a weapon or punishment against me so I was crazy to proceed knowing this. Trust, communication and love failings , but I have learned that my gut instinct works.. If only I listen to it lol. I hope one day I am able to be this unicorn! Lol . Thank you again for your message x

Ta Da. We met them last night and my wonderful wife thanked me after. She urged me to call my old friends if they thought it was a good idea, I’m sure she knew the answer I would get. I did my own contact to the husband who is really an attorney and sounded like a young educated man. He assured me that everything is on the up and up and invited us for drinks first, more for sure only if we approved, at their new home. When I agreed my wife was very excited while I was nervously cautious. Driving home after our meeting my wife and I were talking about how it was being with a younger swinger when she thanked me. She said she wanted to feel young again and didn’t want to push me to say sex with younger people could be great. She kept saying our sex is great at home and that she forgot how much more energetic we were.

Our vacations to a nude beach is where we have many swinging encounters and we love it. Seems nudies are friendlier and you get to see them in their full glory. I know on other threads there is a debate about nudist and swingers. From our first time on a nude beach we have had offers to swing.

Naked musical chairs with the men sitting on the chairs. Everyones a winner lol