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I am not shaved It's funny that men that tell me they love it shaved also love looking at mine!

I love Hairy pussy

All but two of the women in our group of seven married couples can orgasm readily by dick in pussy penetration. The other two can usually cum that way, but need certain positions like doggy or cowgirl and to be in control in order to orgasm. It doesn't seem to matter whose dick it is. Sometimes with those two women the answer is just to ask if they prefer I go down on her for her orgasm. Licking her clit and her vagina opening, finger fucking, finger in and around her butt hole always does the trick. They still enjoy regular fucking and I always get to cum in their cunt.

From the original Ghostbusters: Dr. Peter Venkman: "I make it a rule never to get involved with possessed people." [Sigourney Weaver keeps coming on to him.] Dr. Peter Venkman: "Actually, it's more of a guideline than a rule..."

I have had 2 women with hairy armpits and one of them was a total surprise and the other wasn't. The one that wasn't had a mother from Europe and she also was big with her family going to nude beaches together, she has a picture of her, her mother, and grandmother all nude on a beach in France. But getting back to the topic, I don't find that the hair as far as looks is the issue, it's the smell that her armpits hold. It's that musk smell that really comes out, especially the more she gets excited!

I do not think anyone is denigrating singles in any way. Words do, or at least should, have a meanings. Marriage is defined by a certain set of ramifications, that are just not present in committed but not married. ( This can be modified . eg. Owning a house jointly, sharing parental rights legally , having each listed as next of kin on health care forms, in some states being able to list your partner as a domestic partner for health insurance, naming each other as beneficiaries on life insurance, forming a legal partnership where each stand liable for the others debts. Drawing up health care and financial POAs. Expressly setting up rights of inheritance.) Most committed singles do not bother with these things. Marriage makes them so, either de jure or de facto. They may be , probably are, intelligent pleasant people who are well worth knowing. Playing with and perhaps forming a friendship with EITHER couple bears risks, in terms of both time and emotional investment on our part. A long established , but not married , couple might be longer lasting and more stable than their married counterparts. We do a similar breakdown for either from what we can see while in the "getting to know you" phase. What we do know from the outset is that the married couple have made a leap of faith in each other and their relationship that has real world consequences. Whether or not that was a mistake needs to be seen. For us, singles, playing together as a couple, are just that, two singles. Often time that is just for the guy to gain admittance to a party or to share membership fees and room rates between them. Again we have no problem with these folks. We do, however, realize that the dynamics of dealing with them is a very different thing than the first two couples.

Team, to me it seems that it depends on what and how the 'couple' present themselves. Of course, if they are lying to their spouses, it they are cheating, yeah. But, let's suppose we have two people who are dating each other, although they're not planning to take it further, who show up at a house party, for example. They admit to everyone about their situation, they're nice people who have personality. My wife and I have played with such people. I don't feel that they were 'disrespecting the rules of the game.' Were they 'swingers'? Who cares?

Any women here ever let your armpit hair grow? Is there even one man who has a positive opinion of this natural phenomena?

You are lucky that this happened before you invested more time in the relationship. Swinging showed you his true, selfish self. If you wish to find a spouse who will live with you in a non-monogamous life, it is best to begin with that understanding rather than "building a solid relationship" then seeing what he thinks and how he handles it. There are two approaches: swing as a single and find someone already in the lifestyle, or date in the vanilla world and bring up your need for a non-monogamous long-term relationship early when sex is first discussed. Or a mix thereof. Personally, I stumbled into a situation where I was having sex with two men who knew about each other. They were ok with it and one asked me to marry him while keeping my other boyfriend. I'm still with both.

The generous thing to have done would have been for you and his wife to have encouraged your spouses to enjoy themselves while you two sat this one out. It would have been its own reward.

GoldCoCouple, That is why I mentioned the group sex thing, as not necessarily being swinging. Thinking more on it , for me the question is who has skin in the game (pun intended). When a singleton is playing with anyone only their skin is in. When a Married , or otherwise fully coupled, person plays it is not only their skin but also their partners skin, even if the partner is not actively engaged. Any risk of disease,trauma of any type, unintended consequences such as pregnancy or dramatic attachment affects the partner. If both partners of the coupled are aware and in agreement then there is swinging involved, for the couple. For the single it is just having sex with a swinger.

Big influx of first time posters like this.

We agree. Swinging was the proximate factor for the end, but the seeds were there. Praying for your peace. Good luck moving forward.

I am sorry to hear how this played out for you. It is correct that now is far better than later. It might help to consider what swinging is and what part if any you have with it , or it with you. I may stir up a hornets nest but I will say this anyway. Swinging is in my view a couples sport. It is often described as Ethical Non -monogamy. ( For the sake of this discussion I include marriage a and committed relationship as one thing. A "single" is someone not in either type of relationship.) When a single person has sex with another single, they are just hooking up. That goes back as far as there was sex. It is not swinging. While it may look similar from the outside promiscuity does not equal swinging. From what I have seen singles often have more partners, but fewer encounters. When a single person has sex with either a couple or a member of a couple who is playing with consent of their partner, the married portion is "swinging" in some sort of definition. The single person is still hooking up, but also participating in the others "swinging". If the married component is playing without consent of their partner then they are cheating, not swinging. Depending on a number of factors the single is either just hooking up, participating in the other cheating, or cheating. This depends on knowledge of the situation, and intent on the singles part. A Swinger who is not playing by the couples rules are cheating. Unless you have a thing for married men or playing with couples, you have a normal healthy conventional sex life before you. That is far from boring. You could even get group sex going that way.

So sorry to hear that your relationship has ended, however, in an attempt to put a more positive spin on things, it's better to find out now (even though you have already invested several years into the relationship) than to have things continue for several more years before finding out that it wasn't going to work. This is why we are constantly saying love/trust/communication is so very important. Also, that swinging is the sprinkles on the ice cream sundae of life...not missed if they aren't there, but just that much better when they are. We have enjoyed swinging during the time we have pursued it, but if either of us wanted to walk away, we both would without a second thought. The relationship we have is so much more important than anything we do in it or as part of it. You really should take a break and take some time to recover from what has happened. We wish you the best and if you are even in Nor Cal, invite you to come over and say hello some time (we would love even just seeing a unicorn just once to know that they really do exist...lol).

Thank you, it's quite daunting knowing where to start. She expressed interest in going to some clubs and seeing how we feel when we're there so I think that will be the road we go down. I was thinking a bit further in but I suppose it's impossible to plan things when we're not sure how we will feel. Just have to kind of go with the flow.

My experience is limited, but I question that.

The relationship that I have with my husband (and the rest of our poly family) is balanced and perfect, including the sex. But even though I am perfectly happy with the sex that I have with my husband doesn't mean that I/we can't enjoy sex and relationships with others. The one thing that is imbalanced in our poly family is that two men have a difficult time satisfying three women. When it was just me and my two guys in the beginning in our early twenties, I had to try hard to keep them both satisfied but really enjoyed it and it gave me a sense of power and accomplishment. As Clair and Lora joined us and we got into our thirties, while we women ramped up the men slowed down, especially in the repeat performance department. That's why we women share a boyfriend Frank, a married man one of us will occasionally hit up with his wife's Becky's permission. She suffers from a condition that causes depression when she is sexually aroused. Usually it happens to people post orgasm, but she gets it just getting excited but would press on. Clair met her at our kids' school and a mutually satisfactory arrangement was made, which has been going on for several years now. Becky has been in treatment, both medical and psychological, and she has made good progress, which however, means that our arrangement is coming to an end. Two reasons - Becky had sometimes been around when activities were taking place, and sometimes that included David or Red from our poly family. Even early on Becky occasionally got involved getting naked in front of, giving blowjobs to, or letting her be touched by, our guys. Although Frank was fucking us, he didn't particularly like his wife getting sexual with other men, especially in front of him. But she pushed back. As she recovered with her meds and counselling, she began to enjoy sex without the blue feelings and took it further, having screwed David and Red. She particularly likes Red. Frank lets her do it, but he doesn't want to be around when it happens or even hear about it, before or afterwards. Second reason it is ending is that Becky and Frank want to have another child. So the plan is in the next few months she's going off birth control and they will be trying for another kid. Anyway, sorry for the previous paragraph going into all of that, but I just want to endorse the idea that a married woman, perfectly satisfied in her marriage both sexually and otherwise, can need and easily handle multiple men outside her marriage. Men should accept that, especially in these days of birth control where the husband doesn't need to worry about providing resources to provide for another man's spawn. Men should acknowledge that a woman with a lover or two on the side can still give him all the satisfaction that he wants, while if he has another woman going he cannot usually come home and give his wife two quality rounds afterwards. Assez.

Honestly I do not understand why there are so many imbalanced marriages and so many men needing to look for more with wives caring less. Why on earth did you marry in the first place? I married for sex mostly. No joke. I wanted a man that I knew I wanted to have amazing sex with for the rest of my life, to share ALL of my life with in area of life with. I told him up front it was going to be a wild and crazy ride and he better be up for it or there is no point to moving on. Why are so many people so lazy? So apathetic? Come on humans we should be putting the animal kingdom to shame not the other way around.

I agree! I think we should have the multiple mates. We much more to offer a multitude of men and they have more to offer in a group.

The less hair the better for both of us! Women still look like grown women to us without pubic hair. Never been an issue. She also prefers men that have clean shaven faces as well. Oral is just better without hair to navigate through to us and we both love oral.

I’m a busy woman and I like taking charge of my time - which happens to include certain appearance routines that I’m into.