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This summer we went from 0 to wow and now we are catching our collective breath and deciding what is next. This summer I more than doubled the number of different partners I had sex with in my life. For my husband it was the summer of dreams. We started very cautiously then it feels like we threw caution to the wind. We made many new friends that we hope will remain friends and met others that will just be part of our history. I read the posts here and wonder what is real and what is fantasy putting myself into the situations and thinking would I do that or would I enjoy that or could I enjoy that. I can report some I did and enjoyed and some I didn’t enjoy and many more I didn’t try. No DVP for me. I even learned new terms, yes Spit Roast is a thing. Carpet Munch even if there weren’t carpets. Safe Sex hmmm, not so much. Now it’s time to slow down before things go sideways. We both have routine medical exams on the calendar which is now making me a bit on edge. I’m not sure if routine blood tests are enough to find something hidden. I know I should be honest with my doctor, I’m just trying to find a way to tell her about our summer. My family doctor is the same one my parents use and the only doctor I’ve used as an adult. My gynecologist knew me as a virgin and how scared I was when I went that first time after the first time. My husband could not care less about his doctors, I don’t think men are examined the same way, it’s much more routine. I also want to thank those more seasoned who took the time to read my sometimes sarcastic younger posts for the little guidance I read. We will always be Exploring and looking for Options

Yeah! each one to themselves. My man's favorite libido raising moment is watching me get licked and fucked and having orgasms by and with another. He always follows up even before the other has left. And then we talk about it and the next and he goes again.

EO, if you dig deeply enough through the archives here you will find posts from Fundamental Law and other medical professionals urging all who are in ENM relationships and routinely engage in sex with others to be tested regularly (some hard-playing folks won’t play with anyone who can’t show an all-negative comprehensive STD panel) and to be candid with their primary care provider. It can be awkward telling your PCP that you are in the lifestyle but they cannot provide you with an adequate level of care if they don’t know what your health risk factors are. I understand your reticence . My (non-playing but very supportive) wife and I are in our mid-70s and she is in a non-reversible decline that leaves her increasingly dependent on me for support and care. I cannot afford to take health risks that would leave her without a caregiver. Though my ENM history goes back more than four decades (and includes her as part of my very first) and I’ve been fairly active for 20 years (with time out for the height of the pandemic) it wasn’t until recently that I took to heart the good counsel of Fundamental Law and others. I got tested at my local Planned Parenthood. (If you don’t have disqualifying objections to the organization because it provides abortion services, I heartily recommend PP as an excellent source of sexual health care. Your care provider will be highly knowledgeable and no one there is judgmental at all. The NP I saw did confess that there were few mid-70s men in their patient population. 😉😂) PP takes insurance, including Medicare. If you don’t have insurance payment is on a sliding scale according to income. I signed the form requesting that PP share its information with my PCP, affiliated with a major medical school in NYC and in most important ways very good. So, I expected that when I had my next annual physical my PCP would have through inference figured out I was regularly having sex with people other than my wife (who is also her patient). That was a bad assumption on my part. She spends 90+ minutes on an annual physical and generally comes prepared — she isn’t flipping through my history and lab tests while she’s talking. She didn’t bring up anything about my sex life, which in the past was always a brief conversation (You two still having good sex? Need a new Viagra scrip?) Three or four times I said to her that we needed to talk an]bout sex, and she kept blowing past it. I finally leaned forward in my chair, addressed her by her first name and said in a stronger voice than before "WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SEX!" That got her attention. I shared the full nature of my sexuality with her. She wasn’t judgmental but clearly she was big-time surprised. I’m 20 years older than she is and she’s pretty conservative in dress and demeanor. Also a practicing Catholic, and I think on the religiously conservative side. But she asked all the right questions about the specifics of the behaviors I engage in. I gave her accurate and specific answere. And then she asked why I had been forward in bringing up the subject. I told her it was because I wanted to know whether with this significant knowledge about me she would be comfortable being my doc. And assuming she was okay with having me as her patient, that I wanted her to be able to provide me with appropriate overall care. She said she didn’t have other patients in my situation (I said to myself, "that you know about") and she wasn’t confident she had the degree of knowledge necessary to care for my sexual health. I told her I was planning on having PP take care of that but that I wanted them to share their records with her so she’d have the full picture. EO. at this point you may be saying to yourself that if you thought you would go through anything like that with your doc you would just keep your sex life to yourself. My experience with my PCP was not nearly as awkward as it might seem when you read my stripped-down telling of the interaction. And I felt really good having gotten past my anxiety from the prospect of having the conversation. Given your particular circumstances you might best have the talk with your Ob-Gyn and ask them to not share with your PCP unless something happens that makes it medically necessary. As a side note, my observation over the years is that members of the medical/health-care community (physicians, surgeons, nurses, psychologists and clinical social workers) are vastly over represented in the lifestyle. It’s not likely your ObGyn is or was in the lifestyle, but it’s far from impossible. Just the other evening I was on a Xoom with a couple who are prospective playmates. Turns out he’s an ObGyn…😉😊

Congrats on diving into the lifestyle. It's a fun and wild adventure which changes your fundamental mindset and perspective in potentially great ways. I can understand your discomfort with wanting your doctors to have an idea of your extracurriculars--in my own case my primary doc is one of my fathers closest friends so that could potentially be awkward. To avoid it there I simply have another specialist (urologist), whose opinion I could care less about, write the script for an STD test and take it to LabCorp to fill. In the case of my wife she simply hits an Urgent Care for a full STD panel and sees an NP she has no relationship with and won't see again after. If that is still not discrete enough for you, there are plenty of online resources to get discrete STD testing.

f 28 married 5 years. You might find it odd but I found out my husband does not like having a blowjob. I never thought that guys did not like having a blowjob. All the guys I dated loved it. When we were dating he never mentioned he did not like having his cock sucked. I found out about a year after we married. The problem is that I love sucking a cock,it is part of great sex. So I stopped giving blowjobs but now I keep thinking about it all the time specially when a guy flirts with me. Once in a while when I go out with friends and some guy come over and start flirting I will go with him in his car and suck him. It is a big turn-on for me. It happened a few times. I talked about it with my husband how important it is for me and he said sometimes find some guys he does not know and satisfy yourselves. Once I went in an all inclusive resort for a vacation with a girl from work ( he could not come because of work ) and it did not take long before we had a couple of guys come over at the bar and we spent all of our vacation with them, making out etc. I must say it was great. I don't know what to do, making love without blowjob does not satisfy me and finding some guy to suck seems bizarre. I just wanted to share this even if I am not a swinger. Reading part of your forum did turn me on quite a bit.

Hot!!!🔥🔥 never knew how hot my wife was and then that happened.

What is it called if 3 women are having oral sex together. I had one down and one on my face.

I am bi enough that I REALLY enjoy a cock but I have no attraction to men. I really enjoy sucking cocks and riding cocks but I have zero desire to kiss or make out or anything remotely romantic with a guy. I figure that it is just sex, right? It's fun getting off and it is fun getting others off as well. That sated look when I guy cums is great, particularly when I know that I caused that... Call me weird. But it is what it is...

The above was my suggestion early in this thread, and it was shot down for good, understandable reasons. But with so many posters focusing on whether she should continue playing, I again suggest that perhaps she should consider turning it around and having him play while she doesn't. He would ultimately understand the pleasure and fulfillment of letting one's partner be sexually free. To me, being in the lifestyle, whichever way a couple gets there, is important to a high level of happiness. Knowing what I know now, if I were back at the beginning of my relationships, I would do whatever it would take for us to get there. Please test my theory again.

Yeah, either way. I'm not into bi play with other men, but regardless of which passage I'm in, front or back, the most exciting thing for me is feeling the other guy's dick moving in her. The first time I did DP that was unexpected - feeling his dick through the walls of both her vagina and rectum. Doesn't matter whether it's my wife or another guy's. The only thing that gets to me with DP is watching my wife with two other guys in her; it's like WTF. I had seen Daniela fuck and do anal with other guys a number of times before, and we had already done DPs with other guys, but the first time I saw her with two other men, it was overload. (But I was in another woman, so...) You're right, the guys are taking directions in a DP situation.

And you get to feel hubby cock pulsate as it delivers its load?! 🥵

We have never suggested that she keep swinging either...that would just be foolish. Never once have we even thought that they, or she, should continue in this. We have posted that one of our hard rules has (and always will be) if one of us says no, then we both are saying no with no repercussions or explanations necessary. This includes swinging. If either one of us were to say that we didn't want to do this any more, we would both walk away without looking back. This obviously didn't work for them and, if they are able to reconcile, they should never even think of trying to return to swinging. Now, if things don't work out and they don't get back together (and that isn't looking good), and she moves on and finds another partner who is open to the idea...we would probably tell her to seriously reconsider making the same mistake again unless they are both 100% sure that this is for the two of them. Swinging is not for everyone...in fact it is for the very few. If you are wired for it, it can be exceptional, but most people are not wired that way, and there's nothing wrong with that since that is how most people are. It is a Pandora's box that few can successfully open and continue.

Lets do it again, If you are referring to my and GoldCoCouples responses, I do not think either of us are suggesting that she keep swinging. To be clear, at least for me, Mistakes were made that happened partially from inexperience and partially from lack of communication. Not the least of the communication lack was that He was suppressing a demon, that had she known , could have been dealt with. Maybe it was suppressed enough that he thought it was not an issue. Odd thing is though, small stuff that is unresolved can and does pop up in this LifeStyle. At any rate MISTAKES were made. The cost is apparently quite dear. The only recourse is to try and limit the damage. The first step is not to do anything precipitous , like closing off any possibility of reconciliation. The second is to go on with life as if there is no future for the two of them. For the foreseeable future I do not see swinging as a rational course to take.

It boggles my mind of how many times I have read were if one is a no go then stay out. If they can't agree on a boundary then back off. I can't believe that they want her to stay swinging when he is against it. Put the shoe on the other foot, if she didn't want to, would you still encourage him to continue? I don't think so! I just don't think it's good for her to stay in, whenever he wants out.

Double hot!

I've done both once and IT WAS fantASStic! First was couple who wanted a DP with hubby in her ass and me in her pussy (w/o a condom at their request). I was lying down as she climbed onto my cock in an all 4 stance and waited for hubby to get in her ass. Once he was in my job was to slowly start fucking her. THE MOST AMAZING SENSATION is that I COULD FEEL HUBBY's COCK just on the other side of her pussy. I mean that membrane is THIN and hubby was saying OMG's every time I stroked my cock into her pussy as I fucked her. It was so WONDERFUL to be their first and doing this in such a way that ALL THREE of US REALLY ENJOYED IT. It must be that hubby's cock in her ass AIMED MY COCK into her pussy in a totally new manner because her orgasm was shuttering! What a wonderful experience. Second was a DP in the woman's pussy. In this instance, the hubby was lying on his back as his wife mounted his cock and placed a pillow underneath his butt so his cock was further inside her without her having to strain her back. Then I entered her pussy and stroked. ....I'm smiling right now as I type recalling the look of pleasure on hubby's face and he felt MY COCK glide over his back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Once again, the wife enjoyed it too because our combined girth gave her own pussy more pleasure. And now I am smiling again as I recall the "renewed look" on hubby's face as he shot his load and we had more lube to share. The latter couple (DVP) invited me back so hubby could watch me fuck his wife and then eat her pussy and we talked about me being the first cock in her ass butt we did not get around to that because fucking her pussy and licking it after fucking it became a "joint pleasure!" Life REALLY IS GREAT when people like us can share such wonderful lust with such patience, passion and courtesy.

I'm situationally bi, mostly oral I really love swallowing CUM Would love to have my wife watching, encouraging, and insisting that I swallow everything that fills my slut mouth. Enjoy

So SIZE DOES matter! 😅 We have had DVP with dildos and human flesh. Really fun, she exploded. In a GOOD way. I was also concerned about stretching her, would she be able to take it etc, but it all works well. Remember, much larger 'things' can pass through and since two cocks are probably way smaller than a child... I do recommend it. Take it slow, let her lead, and help her relax.

For DPV, the longer guy needs to be on top.

Ah, now I have to add that to my list.

And write your name with it in the snow?

There is a reason that most who have discovered they CAN do it end up coming back for more. It's more of an occasional treat for us, in large part because any anal penetration is a closer for the night, but if you can find a good rhythm it is very intense for all parties. We tend to find DVP more enjoyable though and run with that whenever the opportunity presents.

I used to ask David and Red to let me hold their dick while they peed. Maybe it was a control thing or just curiosity, but I like to do it. I haven't done it in a while.

I am 62 and have no problem with libido. As long as you keep having regular sex , and stay active your libido will stay strong. I love women and enjoy having sex with them, being single in your 60's is great for a man because the male herd is thinning and many men quit sex because of ED problems and don't seek help. More women are looking for men willing and capable of having sex when older. I also have sex with younger women because their SO would rather play video games.

Do you ever have the problem with your husbands that sometimes playtime is supposed to be only a girl thing, but he wants to jump in? Although FFM is our go-to arrangement, sometimes we need an FF or even FFF. Just watch the damn kids.

(Note: Emphasis on a section of Davida’s thoughtful comment above is mine.) If a person’ relationship is such that they are focused on making sure the potential untoward outcome of some decision "would have been on (their partner)" perhaps they should be examining the fundamentals of their relationship instead of whether they should be engaging in recreational sex with others. Just a thought.

I agree with you here on the attention part from her here but also agree that husband had many chances to say no outright, he was somehow interested in it too but things didn't go as he imagined. Just our brief story here as I think it might help hopefully... I (husband) was the one who brought this idea into this and she outrighly said no. After months of discussion, pros and cons, she agreed but then would develop cold feet every now and then saying not sure how will she feel. So just to make her comfortable we went to a club and i assured her there will be no play so she went. While there there was nother couple who approached us and I told them that she is on the fence still so they talked to her and she agreed for like touching etc and couple along with me paid 100% attention to her, she like it a lot. Then I carefully found a single guy, talked to him about the situation, finally got her approval to meet him and we had threesome again paying full attention to her. Now we are into it and swap with couples and she enjoys it a lot and so do I thinking it pays to go slow and make the partner comfortable as it was not their idea to begin with.

Bareback with sloppy seconds is a total turn-on!

I agree, I love sloppy seconds!

Sex on the table... That's fun occasionally but I prefer the comfort of the bed or the couch

South FL... That idea excites us both too. That's one reason we want to play bareback, but gotta feel comfortable with the guy first.

Not so much eating another man's cum out of her but I absolutely love creampie fucking. The feeling of slipping my cock into her hot creamy cunt is fantastic!

Exactly the same with us. Just sharing the cream I lick off.

Forgive the newbie here, please. Never done a guy, yet, but think it would be hot if it was all part of the moment. I want to experience what Ms. Naughty gets when she goes down on me, but nervous over the texture and taste. I've seen the evidence that guys' cum can be very different. My question is, does it also taste very different? If I'm good licking/swallowing mine, will I likely be good with another guy's?

I just wanna add that I spoke to him yesterday and he seemed happy he had been with his brother and a few friends and seemed normal and even cheerful, it's like not being with me made him the happy, funny, delightful guy I fell in love with again. I asked him once more if he was sure about the seperation he said yes I can't go back to pretending everything is fine when it's not because that's not fair towards you and this would have come up again he said. He even admitted he thought that throwing away the marriage was insane but he did not wanna go back and forth anymore and felt it would only come up again sooner rather than later. He told me he is seeing a therapist to deal with all of the stuff and that it had been helpful but what really made me puzzled is that his therapist had even suggested he be careful of throwing his marriage away. I just wish he followed that advice atleast I honestly feel a little patethic now sitting here writing all of this out to you guys hoping he comes back.

This is a good question--I suppose I'd call my self situational/cyclically bi-oral. I generally do not find men attractive or have a desire to kiss them or engage in any sort of ass play with them, but in the heat of the moment the idea of a hard cock in my mouth, especially as I watch my wife giving oral, can be very appealing. I've only ever engaged in oral with a few guys and in the presence of the wife (no same sex exploration growing up) and, although she was deeply turned on by it initially, she finds it to be a massive turn off now, so I'm not sure I'll get the opportunity again. But sucking a dick to completion remains on my fantasy list--one day I'd love to experience a man cuming in my mouth. As far as penetrative sex, I don' think I'd want to fuck a man, though I am mildly curious what it might be liked to be topped.