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Do others have that One Special friend in the lifestyle that you play with? We decided sex with others could and would be fun, sex with no attachment to enjoy sex and new sexual adventures. Our marriage is secure and our love has never waned before or after our active summer. My husband had a limited sex life before me, a thing he hates me repeating. I was not overly sexual before just more active. We discussed before joining a site that we should experience more sexual variety. How can I be his best if he had very little to compare even if I end up not being the best. If the better is out there I want him to enjoy. Truth I also wanted sex for sex with no pretense of love or relationship. Now the summer of exploration is over that led us to a relationship with the original find. No promises of just them or just us for them, we aren’t forming a poly family we are going to enjoy the special feeling we have for them. Do others have that special relationship?

We have been dating one other couple for over 10 years and just in the last year they moved further away. We still see each other...once in a great while, but are thinking it may be time to find to find another couple or couples and form a small group. With Covid and how difficult (but totally worth the difficulty) it was to find that elusive spark for all involved, we have had a hard time getting started again.

There are 2 nude beaches in Santorini. Basically there are nude beaches in most of the Greek islands. In Athens there are 3 swingers clubs as far as I know.

Santorini was beautiful. Hated Mykonos. Nice beaches overcrowded and terrible transportation options. although the beaches were clothing optional, there were sunbathers, families, and children everywhere we went. would assume that similar rules apply in Europe that would here. Nude beaches and sexuality aren’t synonymous. And sex on a public beach would get you thrown out or maybe arrested. maybe a little Google research. Possibly a little input from local groups.

We met many couples over the years that I felt like I had to teach new things to. I never wanted to get that close or make long term friendships or get very involved with. I learned I missed out on so much more of life by closing the door on some beautiful people. My eyes were finally opened when we decided to keep a small group to enjoy. I finally accepted one friend that I hold nothing back talking about. I’m not afraid to say I love my friend.

I always thought that the time would come when you got with Shannon and Joe, I just didn't know that the rest would be involved, Yea! I guess my question is: Was Joe and Shannon as good as you thought they would be? And, just a little competition take place for you when you swap? It does for me, I step up to give my swap partners the best I can!

If it's something you want to do then do it but I don't know if that is really a step towards swinging. Tons of people enjoy sharing pictures and videos but I would say the majority of the time it never leads to swinging. Just my guess.

I would have liked to hear the conversation from both sides of the weekend, what was liked and what's to come in the future. I would like to have heard that conversation about the weekend and you know that it led up to some wild sex with everyone SO.

Ocho Rios in Jamaica, Desire in Mexico, and all the adult only beaches in the Dominican republic. Jamaica is our favorite, Couples resorts are nicer than Hedo. San Souci is our favorite, hang out at the Martini bar after dinner!

Regardless of sharing I'm sorry we did not do even more naturist and explicit sex photography than we did. Today's digital cameras with remote or timed shutter release are a real boon. Polaroid was our only option without our own darkroom, WU modeled for an artist who had his own.

I think the visual is nicer panties underneath with minimal front and back coverage. Can retrofit a hook release on g-string sides for easy removal without disconnecting garters or buy them quick release. For me, the best visual is no panties😘

I think that's a good idea about the 4 of you going at once to the doctor and being so open about it. I don't think the doctor would bat an eye! I think it's great the other couple offered the opportunity to go together.

The last week of August, Shannon texted David and me saying that she and Joe are visiting relatives in a nearby town and asking if we were going to be at home and free over the Labor Day weekend. Lunch, dinner maybe. I was taken aback and hesitant. David replied, “Sure, we’re free, that’ll be great.” After more back-and-forth David and I found that they would be arriving late on Friday and have a rental car, so they wanted to get together first thing Saturday. Meanwhile, I kept texting Shannon separately and had a few calls with her. In among all the social talk, we got talking about sex. Eventually, I adjusted my approach from what I proposed before, me fucking Joe or us having a threesome. Rather than asking Shannon if she wanted to make out with me, I instead asked if she would do me a favor and touch me again. I asked not if she would mind, but if Joe would object. She surprised me by saying with some enthusiasm that Joe would like her and me to do that. She quickly clarified that he would like to see us do that. OK, the question is how far would Shannon go with me? I was happy to get that far and left it open from there. Saturday Long story short, David and I met Shannon and Joe at their hotel Saturday morning and visited a few places in town around their hotel. We eventually went to their hotel for lunch, then they invited us back to their room to browse some things on the internet and talk about our plans for later. David surprisingly and suddenly looked at his phone and said that he had to go into the office to take care of things. Something he rarely had to do, at least never in the office on a weekend. But I didn’t question it. He apologized and asked if it was ok if he came back in a few hours to the hotel. OK. He said that he would call when he was leaving the office. Later I found out that it was a set up between him and Shannon. Long foreplay story short, Shannon ended up naked on her back, I was in just my t-shirt braless on all fours licking her pussy, sending her into orbit and Joe was playing with himself. While she was in an out-of-her-mind state, I asked Shannon if Joe could put it in me. She squeaked “Yes,” and I ordered him to get over here. Now I was feeling the dick I had anticipated for so long. He came pretty quickly, but I was just as quick. His ejaculation was fantastic for me. Shannon snapped out of her ecstasy when Joe and I simultaneously started our cris d'amour. Afterwards Shannon wasn’t shy about going down on my sloppy pussy to give me another O. I was also happy that both Joe and Shannon found me to their liking. After our two hours or so of fun, I had Shannon call David and asked him when he was coming back to the hotel. I thought I was being clever having Shannon call him. But David is more clever (cleverer?) and more thoughtful; he had managed to get the hotel to reserve us an adjoining room next to Joe and Shannon’s shortly after they made their reservation - just in case things moved in a direction where we needed it. He checked in on the way back and David and I went next door into our room to shower before going out again. It was a tense late afternoon and light dinner. Not that anything was wrong, but it was a sexually charged atmosphere. David quietly but clearly sent me the message that knew exactly what had happened, had expected it. He also left the door between the rooms ajar as a signal that there was an intimacy between us couples, and negative proof that he wasn’t doing anything with me, the potential was being saved for later. It was clear to me that Shannon was interested in David. And no one had to tell David that. As we left the hotel and began to walk down the block David took Shannon’s hand. I grabbed Joe’s hand. Shannon had previously told me at one point during our text and email exchanges that Joe, knowing only a small part of her past but knowing that it is still much greater than his, likes saying that she was a slut when they’re in foreplay and having sex. He stresses it and says it repeatedly and asks her for stories about her past. It disturbed her at first but it she says it’s all ok, it makes him closer and more loving than ever, even after the sex is over. When we got back to the hotel we went to our rooms and had sex. Pretty wild, but nothing that hasn’t been discussed here before. David and I expected that we would separate into the two rooms, but Joe insisted on us all staying in their room because it had two queen beds instead of one king. He wanted to see his wife having sex with another man, something he said that he had never seen before and expected only to ever see in his fantasies about Shannon’s past. But here David was, with all his pent-up energy, doing a good job on Shannon. David is much more in tune with what was going on in Joe’s mind and how to play it. He knew that what Joe thought wasn’t that Shannon is a slut, it’s that she was a slut and he is the one who was so good for her that she gave up whoring around for him. He prides himself on having an oversexed woman who he has tamed and married. Her past is a point of pride for him. She previously told me that she fucked a lot of different guys and did all these different things (MFM and FFM threesomes, anal, couples swaps) before and yet she is satisfied, happy with Joe. For Joe, it is part of her great personality, but he is so proud that she gave it up for him. David flattered him by saying that he wished that I could have been as sexually adventuresome as Shannon was, that I had only fucked one other guy when we met. David told Joe that Joe married the town slut, but now she is his. Joe really liked that. I suppose that this shouldn’t be so surprising, there are people here, mostly guys, who say that they don’t mind that their wife sluts around (with a boyfriend, at the club, at a party) because, especially because, she is going home with him tonight. The husband getting the final conquest, and all is well. In a moment of calm, nonsexual honesty I asked Joe if he was ok, if it disturbed him knowing and seeing Shannon having sex with David (or me). He seemed good, more than good – pleased, with Shannon’s past but only because it was in the past. He confirmed that talking about her past in the abstract was exciting, something he loved about her, but seeing the reality of her having sex with another guy was painful. “But that seems to be the price of admission,” he said. I was left wondering but didn’t push him on it. “It’s wonderful afterwards though,” he said. Shannon confessed that they weren’t in town to visit relatives. They contacted us and specifically came to visit our place in the world to see if we said we wanted to meet up. They had reserved the entire weekend for time with us, whatever it may be, and had a flight home on Monday afternoon. What led to this trip was Shannon “confronting” Joe about me and asking him if he would fuck if me if she could arrange it. (She already had the signal from me at our last meeting that she could.) What I didn’t know was that she and David were talking behind my back to set this up. Sunday The big day came and we took Joe and Shannon back to our house to meet the rest of our family: Red, Clair, Lora, and our multitude of children. The introductions were very smooth and cordial. The only awkward part for me was when Clair and Lora both said to Joe and Shannon how much I had said about them, but Joe and Shannon were untroubled by me having talked about them. Shannon said I hadn’t said anything about Clair, Lora, Red, or all these kids to her. They were curious about the provenance of the kids and we proudly pointed out the biological parentage of each (Lora said “I’m the mother of the brown ones.”). To say they were amazed with the whole situation would be an understatement. Especially with the huge house, guesthouse and all the children. We told them that none of it (the house, the number of children) is as impressive as it seems if you divide it up among us five adults. David has arranged with Becky and Frank to take our children for the day. We had also arranged for two of the regular young women we use as babysitters to accompany them to help out. It worked out great and we really appreciated it. Needless to say, we all played. The interesting thing for me was that the pairings that seemed to grab hold the most were Joe and Lora, and Shannon and Red. David, my husband, and I played together with Clair and laughed that the couple he had set up for me to have sex with had found other sexual interests. 😊 To Joe, it became not that Shannon just was a slut, but is one, fucking both David and now Red. David and Red now will call Shannon a whore in front of Joe, while the other is fucking her, or both are. Even when Joe is making love to Shannon, his wife. I was worried that this was going too far, but Joe smiled. Both Red and David know how to make him feel good about his wife, portraying her as a sophisticated, super sexually charged woman that he was lucky to get to be his wife. Tamed but not domesticated. After all this, I was afraid what the aftermath might be. But we met at dinner and everyone was happy. It was almost odd that we talked about everything except sex. But it also seemed so natural that it was no problem. One last thing to report: we had breakfast with Shannon and Joe at the hotel Monday (Labor Day) morning for breakfast before they had to go to the airport. Unlike our other get togethers outside the bedroom, this time we did talk about sex and it was mutually decided that David and Shannon would go back to the room for a quick one. Joe and I agreed that it was wonderful sitting here together, him fingering my pussy and reaching for my braless tits, knowing what our spouses were doing. The psychological aspects of what happened excite me as much as the sex, mostly because that’s what I keep thinking about. 1) My husband David went behind my back with another woman(!) to really move along the opportunity for us to play with them. Plus getting the adjoining hotel room and arranging babysitting. 2) Red and Shannon really hit it off, sexually and otherwise, something that I did not expect, they’re so different. Same with Joe and Lora. 3) The fact that Joe has such a fetish about Shannon being called a slut. And that David picked up on the subtle clues early on and had the right instincts on which direction and how far to push it. Joe gets so worked up having Red and David say so and hearing her tell stories about a past that he didn’t know that she had. He went from slut-fear to slut-pride in a very short time. Anyway, overall an amazing weekend.

Oh YES! I have become more and more fascinated by them for many reasons.

This is a good question--I suppose I'd call my self situational/cyclically bi-oral. I generally do not find men attractive or have a desire to kiss them or engage in any sort of ass play with them, but in the heat of the moment the idea of a hard cock in my mouth, especially as I watch my wife giving oral, can be very appealing. I've only ever engaged in oral with a few guys and in the presence of the wife (no same sex exploration growing up) and, although she was deeply turned on by it initially, she finds it to be a massive turn off now, so I'm not sure I'll get the opportunity again. But sucking a dick to completion remains on my fantasy list--one day I'd love to experience a man cuming in my mouth. As far as penetrative sex, I don' think I'd want to fuck a man, though I am mildly curious what it might be liked to be topped.

Mrs.Jo is bisexual and has had a couple of female lovers in and out of college before we married. I am situationally bisexual now, but I did have one relationship after college that lasted for a few months. The emotion wasn’t there, I guess you could call it an experimentation relationship to see if I could. Sexually, it was out of this world, but zero emotions involved.

For me it doesn't matter whose cum it is, as long as we are playing with some pussy. Seems to be that way with the other couples we've fucked with, even guys playing with the others dick, doing oral or anal is all alright so long as it is part of doing the girls. Hard to explain, but the opposite is that two guys never do things just by themselves and never do anything like kiss, a big turn-off. But when the other guy is just a cock in the mix with women, even if two guys are working it, it's good. Still, it only happens with some couples and even then only about one times out of ten.

Count me in. I fantasize about a bukkake someday (doubtful it'll happen). You guys in this forum are beyond cool.

The opera's not over 'till the fat lady ejaculates. Am I mixing my metaphors?