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I’m keep thinking part of the fun this summer was being free to new partners. This is going against my own post about having that special friend and not needing new over and over then thinking t about the excitement of doing the opposite. No decision has to be definitive.

Yes, we had a very special couple. After we got to know them well over a few dates, it turned into a swinging and vanilla relationship - we met their family and they met ours, we traveled together, we went on dates that had little to do with sex. But neither they nor us were 'faithful' to each other, both couples felt free to include others in sexy play, with or without the other couple.

Do others have that One Special friend in the lifestyle that you play with? We decided sex with others could and would be fun, sex with no attachment to enjoy sex and new sexual adventures. Our marriage is secure and our love has never waned before or after our active summer. My husband had a limited sex life before me, a thing he hates me repeating. I was not overly sexual before just more active. We discussed before joining a site that we should experience more sexual variety. How can I be his best if he had very little to compare even if I end up not being the best. If the better is out there I want him to enjoy. Truth I also wanted sex for sex with no pretense of love or relationship. Now the summer of exploration is over that led us to a relationship with the original find. No promises of just them or just us for them, we aren’t forming a poly family we are going to enjoy the special feeling we have for them. Do others have that special relationship?

We had that one special friends we played with that were the only friends we needed. They lived far enough away that our meetings were extra special and all the excitement I needed. Everyone knows that every partner is different in how they do or move when allowed to explore. Our new sexual lover brought me to heights in a different way from my husband. Different not saying better. These friends opened up my sexuality exploring a side I never even knew I had. We still have that Special Couple, as you labeled your friends yet we have explored outside of that relationship against my original ideas. I was very happy with what we had with them with no reason to expand until we did. My suggestion is to go with what you are comfortable with. Try to dispose of any guilt feelings which was my original halt. We are not active like others who post we just play when occasions happen like the stars aligning. I found occasional new experiences are indeed exciting.

Our thoughts from the beginning ~15 years ago were that if we found people whom we had a lot of fun having sex with, it seemed silly to move on from them just because they weren't new to us anymore. We weren't concerned about attachments forming. We've had some great long term sexual partners from this. So yeah, some special relationships developed.

Nope, we like meeting new couples while on vacation. Nude resorts or beaches is where we like to meet couples that are interested. Having that special couple is not important since K works such a heavy schedule. Yes, I guess it is good to have someone to socialize with, but for us it adds to our vacations to be on the lookout for a potential swap.

We have been dating one other couple for over 10 years and just in the last year they moved further away. We still see each other...once in a great while, but are thinking it may be time to find to find another couple or couples and form a small group. With Covid and how difficult (but totally worth the difficulty) it was to find that elusive spark for all involved, we have had a hard time getting started again.

We have a special couple, the first couple, the couple we were friends with before ever thinking about swinging. The wife is my wife’s best friend. I trust them without question and enjoy being with them socially. We consider them Special just not our sole partners.

I am a total bottom now. I love sucking a nice cock and especially how it feels when it is throbbing and giving me a mouthful of yummy cum. I also loved being fucked from behind and Sabrina loves watching two or more guys playing. I like having mu cock sucked by women and men. I tried being a top when I we had my first few bi experiences but discovered I preferred being a bottom.

Even before swinging I did enjoy WU's finger or various didos up the rear but had no desire for a man. After starting swinging in a club group and seeing other sexual situations I started getting more curious and ready to try most anything with people I liked.

That is a reasonable position, but I'd carve out the exception for not wanting what you don't know. I had plenty of opportunity over the years for MM contact but never wanted it. The closest thing in porn I enjoyed to it was passable trannies fucking women... As mentioned above, it wasn't until watching my wife suck cock during our second swap that I got really curious and started to consider it. Then a couple years later when it actually happened, and I performed oral on another guy during a threesome with my wife, my expectations were shattered. Holding another penis in my hand felt completely different than I imagined and having it in my mouth was infinitely more erotic than I anticipated. I don't really find men attractive (though I do find some unattractive) and have no interest in kissing, dating, cuddling etc with a male. But in a fluid sexual situation, I enjoy giving head which wasn't a repressed fantasy for me--it was something I'd have NEVER tried but for swinging.

My wife had a wish to engage in a Double Penetration type situation and really want to try double Vaginal sex. I found most guys were not into that much dick to dick Contact. So DP was easy to find but The DV fantasy went unfulfilled for a while. Then we met a very pretty bisexual transvestite, named Armani who was game as well as being bi. While we are having sex together the dick to dick contact was pretty intense. After my wife had her share and was recuperating Armani and I fooled around. She sucked my cock, we made out and she rode me. I've always considered my self straight but fucking Armani was very fun. We've met up with her 3 times now and there has been sexual contact every time. My wife is very into it.

Don't be shy to ask. I was not a big strap on fan but did it for others. My husband at the time was not either. Nowadays we have so much fun doing it. It had nothing to do with gayness. Flat out, it feels amazing when done well and the only way to do it well is to practice at it. My husband will now take men anally which I thought would never happen and he is the least gay guy I've ever seen when he sucks with me as gets fucked. Sounds weird I know but its true. It is sexual fun, not about the gender with us any more.

I had homosexual experiences with two men, both oral and anal on both sides of it with each, at our wives insistence. First time MM for all of us. The wives thought it was interesting, us men didn't like it (although orgasms happened in each instance) and we haven't done it again.

Yes,I'll admit to a little guy/guy play. Always in the context of an MFM or orgy situation. I never would have thought of it before we opened our marriage. When you choose to move away from a lifetime of monogamous perspective, lots of things become interesting and acceptable that you felt was taboo before, imo.

I suppose I'll admit to this one. Before the LS I wasn't interested in MM activity at all and was largely put off by it. Then during our second swing experience I remember watching my wife going down on the other husband and wondering about it quite a bit and being curious to try. Since then it has happened and I've had opportunities to explore with other men, so I guess the answer in my case is yes--I changed as my horizons broadened.

I am a black man and I totally understand what this dude is saying about racism. It does go both ways and the white guys that want to be black guys as he described the white boy thugs get in because they wanna be black and try to act black and thuggish. Brother the only thing I can tell you on this was that I would have thrown the shoes at her just like you did and said get your ass up right now and come with me. If she’s out of the door in five minutes or shall I say probably 30 seconds she would’ve heard the car going down the road and I would’ve left her a day exactly where she wanted to be. Brother you are better than me because I would’ve bossed up quick and made it clear that her actions were absolutely unacceptable because she is your woman and the fact that she did not want to play with you when she knew that everybody was ignoring you shows that she is disrespecting you on every level. There is no way I would except that from my wife. My wife is sitting right next to me right now and she said the exact same thing but in a different way. No my wife is not black she is Slavic Russian and she said there was no way I would leave you hanging like that when I see everybody acting like assholes to you. In fact when we return to her home country of Latvia, which is a former Soviet union country for all of you who do not know. I am the odd man out and my woman doesn’t leave my side for one bit and several times and we have gone to clubs in her country where I am the only person of color, several of the Russian guys trying to come up to her and pull her away from me even though I usually get in the face real quick, my wife turns into a complete ice queen and cold as Siberia. And the things that she would say to them in Russian would make a hooker jump out of church and change your religion. Your girl/wife turned you into a spectator in a team sport and did not give a damn. Like I said once I threw those shoes at her and told her it’s time to go and she did not return to be in 30 seconds, I would have bounced and went right out the door and one of the people in her party would’ve said you better get your clothes on because your husband is driving down the street and I hope you got money for Uber because it looks like you’re gonna need it. Sometimes you just got a boss up dude and not take disrespect and the host of the party, she was part of the plan of everything that was going on. They wanted your lady and your lady didn’t care that you get hurt by it . So your problem is with your lady disrespecting you and she would no longer be my lady because if she’s willing to do that to me and that situation, can you imagine what situation she would do you wrong where is actually extremely important. Tell Coco to pack her bags and have that to take care of her.

Wow just wow - pretty much everything about this post just makes me sick. Just can't stand any stereotypes. If you have been in the game you know there are endless exceptions. I fear the original poster's fetish goes beyond the size of his wife's partners cock.

I can’t believe race play hasn’t entered the discussion yet? For better or for worse, if you strictly adhere to the opposite race then then there is a fair amount of race play going on. Which is good or bad depending on the participants understanding and grasp of the situation.

So far, this ^^, has been the most intelligent post in this thread.

We were in our 40's and in the LS at the time. we were hot-tubbing with another couple (and very drunk) when the other wife started doing "dares". The girls each ate each other, played, & kissed first. Then the guys had to "taste cock" in order to get a sex reward from the wives. That changed everything for me. I had no clue that I would end up liking it, especially when my wife assists and tells me what to do. It's a huge turn-on for both of us. Crazy huh?

I'm not bi but I can play one with the right partner in the right circumstances. Angel expressed a desire to have a bi-male MFM for years before I agreed to try. Having done it I can honestly say I can take it or leave it. Being with another guy doesn't do anything for me sexually, however, seeing her reaction when she watches and participates is exciting. I guess you could say I am taking one for the team but it makes her hot and I enjoy her excitment.

My first bi experience was at the request of the lady part of a couple that i played with for quite some time. She was very excitied to watch her hubby and I. It now seems to be anatural and fun part of meetings.

R here: For the record, L is coercing me to reply to this. She read it, while I squirmed squeamishly. I have long held the opinion that women are biologically oriented neutral and have the capacity to go either way. Whereas, we males are almost definitely either oriented streight or gay. It just seems unmanly to be indecisive. No I can't be changed. L says she'll try it. Ok, I may have had my dick sucked in the Groping room n Negril...but it was dark and my hands were busy....and I didn't RECIPROCATE!!!!

A bit of a long story, but about a year ago we had a threesome with a bisexual single male she was very into (more so than she admits). The single male had brought up M/M contact a couple of times to feel me out on the subject and I didn't really bite and let him know that although I wasn't squeamish, it's not something I've done before or knew I wanted to. I did not tell my wife about his probing prior to our play date. It was also the first time we planned on her having sex without a condom. When the playdate came (first time we were meeting in person) I let them get started while I took somewhat of a watching role at first... I have to admit the two of them together looked EXTRODINARILY hot and their chemistry was obvious. When I involved myself in the play some touching happened and I didn't shy away and touched back a bit with the SM, which was taken as a green light. It's difficult remembering the exact sequence of things, but at one point I'm fucking my wife and he's fucklicking us both and its amazingly hot. I tell my wife "he's sucking me, baby" to which she has a foreign but not necessarily negative look and tone and says "I know, and you seem to be liking it" which I admitted. This progress from there and I end up going down on him a good bit and loving the experience and wanting more... session wraps up eventually, he leaves and the anger, confusion and distrust towards me begins. My wife was very turned on but not entirely comfortable and felt this was sprung on her. It wasn't really on my radar to discuss in advance but she is correct, there was no discussion on M/M contact nor did I ever indicate an interest. I believe the MMF took place on a Monday and we had a conflicted next couple of days, alternating between fucking and fighting, but by the Saturday of the same week we had scheduled a MMMFF with that same single male and another couple we knew well and more bisexual exploration took place. The wife seemed to love this exploration when she was horny but be off put by it when sober, but she reached out to an openly bisexual couple on SLS who we ended up playing with as well as another bisexual SM who we played together with several times and always enjoyed... On the backburner while this exploration is happening we're arguing more and she's getting upset about things that don't really make sense and she eventually admits she's still upset about the initial encounter with the SM. She has concerns (which have some validity) that he was more gay than bi and was more into me than her and wants to spend a night with him outside of my presence when separate play was not something we do. I trust my wife, generally, but I didn't trust either of us with this SM, he was a boundary pusher and a master of getting us to do things we didn't plan on... I tried to explain I'm not comfortable and to an extent she throws it back in my face that she wasn't comfortable with how the encounter went down but she's communicating her wants to me instead of just doing it (this is true). This whole ordeal started to feel really wrong and I disengaged from our group chat with the SM and it got obvious and awkward for all. Anyway, the original SM has a way of kind of dissolving our boundaries--condoms always, bi sexuality, wanting separate play and he's kind of moving almost towards wanting a Poly dynamic. It is difficult to explain, but it became a relationship we had to end as it was hurting us as we'd never fought about LS stuff before and barely argued about anything. When we ended it my wife told me she's uncomfortable with bisexual play going forward and doesn't want me to engage in it anymore. I'm pretty sure in hindsight that she had some level of feelings for him and carried some resent towards me for complicating the situation. In any event, as much as I did enjoy exploring Bi play, it's off the table until the day the wife green lights it. and the TL;DR We had unplanned MM contact during a 3sum without prior discussion, which led to conflicting emotions, arguments, resent and trust issues towards me, which soured her towards me exploring this part of my sexuality, be it based on the reasons stated or as something punitive...

My wife is a big fan of strap-on play, both fucking and getting fucked by other women. It's been brought up in a roundabout way a couple times when chatting with other LSers, that she should try pegging me and I did my best to indicate I'd be "receptive" but it sort of got dismissed along the lines of her having to be 'really drunk' to try that... I should find a way to work back to that topic...