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I know many vanilla people, women and men, who are open to and have had sex on a first date.

We in our group are almost exclusively a "cum inside her" bunch - pussy, mouth, ass. Pulling out has never been my thing.

I like to see it shoot out and I like the sensation of it landing on my face, but the guy's attitude has a lot to do with it. If he views it as a way to degrade me, then I hate it. If he does it because he is trying to please me, then I like it. Does that make sense?

I think you are correct! I don’t know if porn is to blame for this or if there are just that many guys out there that just think every woman out there that actually enjoys sex is a cum slut that they should be able to use and degrade however they want. As a guy myself I think it is ridiculous. A woman that likes sex a lot is a woman that should be catered to not treated like garbage, because they are the kind of woman you are going to want the honour of having again. Missus E has completely taken other men off the list due to hordes of guys out there that are just completely clueless on how to talk to a woman and couple as well as treat a woman in the bedroom. Everyone is a self proclaimed Dom that wants to be the man. It is a joke and so are they. It is their loss really, because I absolutely loved sharing her with other men. Far to much fail from men.

An old post proves some things don’t change. I have ideas why men enjoy doing this starting with degrading the woman. Is it a power trip to show what they have. I now don’t care what they want. If they pull out to cum on me I push their dicks away. I hate getting shot in the eye or worse in my hair.

Guys will ask if they can cum on my face. I do say yes knowing when I’ve got them deep in my throat they never pull out in time.

I will never forget the first time I saw Sabrina "being penetrated" (fucked). We were at a house party and she had beenn in the hot tub with three other females, whose husband, SOs wrre otherwise occupied. They quickly moved from the hot tub to a bedroom. I watched them play for well over an hour. They finally decided to bring me in and after they had their fun with me, the told me to go get some guys. I found three single guys and brought them into the room. Sabrina latched onto a tall, built guy and he immediately got his clothes off. She gave him head long enough to get him hard, she rolled a condom on him and laid him on his back. She climbed onto his rock hard cock and started down. At first I felt the green jealousy monster rising up, until I heard her moan from pleasure. She rode him for a while then he fucked her doggy. She is multi orgasmic so she had several orgasms before he came. She ended up being fucked by all three. It was only fair, I had sex with all three of the other females. On the way home she was upset and close to tears. She told me she did not want me to think she was a slut. I told her I did not and that the experience was incredible, especially watching her fuck and cum. After that our swinging life took off.

About a two on a seven or ten scale.

That's the way I feel, very very few men are the least bit attractive to me. We are lucky women want to be with us.

We started swinging in 1996 about 27 years ago right after we met and moved in together. Sabrina was very bi and loved playing with girls and guys, especially in group settings. About 2003 she told me that she thought two or more guys playing with each other was 🔥 hott. We set up a date to meet with a bi guy (Rick) at Quiet Encounters, an on premises swing club in El Paso, TX. After an hour of conversation and drinks to calm my nerves, we went into a private room, locked the door, and we sucked and fucked each other in every combination you could think of for the next three hours. When we eere done, the whole room smelled like sex, sex and sex. We have played m/m lots of times. We just hosted a bi male party in Las Vegas with 3 couples with bi males, 6 bi male tops and 1 single female. I was spit roasted at the same time as Sabrina. Was fucked by 7 of the males and got to swallow 5 loads of cum.

My orgasms from DP are what makes it worth the effort! Nasa has nothing on those orgasms!

Lovefest Being a lifelong church participant I guess those negative aspects did not take hold with us.

We are complex, and we are emotional, we feel all the feels. She probably felt vulnerable and exposed, and that brings up emotions. We are capable of liking something while not liking it at the same time. My first time in a group sex situation i had spent a couple hours being naked, groped, fingers and fucked by 5 different guys. It was intense, arousing, painful, violating, sexy, naughty, humiliating, satisfying and overwhelming all at the same time. I felt sexy and i felt like a slut at the same time. When we were done I felt a lot of emotions and all I wanted was to cover up with the blanket, but there were two guys laying in the bed on top of the covers on both sides of me and I couldn't get under the covers. So I cried, it was bad, which made me embarrassed so I cried even more, and didn't stop until about a half hour after the men all left feeling very deflated and uncomfortable. I didn't want to cry, but its the only thing I could do in the moment. After I got it out I honestly felt good, even though my hoo hoo and my booty was sore as fuck, I felt really good, satisfied. I even did it again with different guys a month later without crying.

We actually say in our profile that we don't play on the first date so that there is no pressure or confusion and we want to make sure that everyone is indeed interested (no taking one for the team). We want there to be a connection since we are looking for friends first, benefits second. However, if everyone agrees on a second date, we hope that SOMETHING happens...doesn't have to be big, maybe even just watching each other making out (same room sex/petting/whatever). If that doesn't happen, it seems like the other couple isn't interested. If nothing happens after three dates, then we figure it probably isn't a match and we move on. It's fine not having much happen on the second date (or maybe even the third), as long as we know that the other couple is really interested. If you are just starting out and are being cautious, let the other couple know that this is what is happening. If they are understanding, then move forward. If they are not interested in waiting, then it isn't a match and saves everyone time by moving on.

We generally like the first meeting to be vanilla. I like to debrief privately with my wife. One of us may pick up something good or bad that may influence our decision. If both of us want to meet to play, we’ll try to set up a play date. If the other couple agrees, we do it. We make it clear to the other couple that we intend to play and make sure that they are on the same page. i don’t think we would meet three or four times and not play, unless all four of us wanted to be vanilla friends. I do not think many seasoned lifestylers would wait that long. If we are on a lifestyle cruise or at a lifestyle resort, we would want to have drinks or a meal to get to know people a little first, but we are much more likely to play right away.

Actually, semen is all of protein and some sugar. Both high energy stuff. Since it dries quickly it is the best facial for the skin, Makes the skin radiant and glows with freshness when the dried semen is peeled off and the face is washed with mild soap. There is no point wasting it in a condom. So I let them come anywhere they like except my hair. Most favorite place for men to eject their semen has been between the boobs as they also like to fuck between the boobs rather than masturbate, and some of it may jet up to the face or chin. I love it, when the shoot the stuff on my skin. Most men like in this order - first fuck the mouth, then the pussy and ass if permitted and finish up on the boobs. They can give the boob a miss, if allowed bareback to come inside wherever they are.

Do guys always want to cum on my wife's face? What's wrong with this question? I don't have a wife. I AM a wife. Lots of women read this Board and post. A woman runs this Board. Why is the question only addressed to the husbands? After all, we wives are the ones with the faces in question. I've known women who wanted the man to come on her face. For whatever reason, it's a turn-on. At least one I knew, with a Ph.D., liked how it made her feel "dirty". I would find it degrading, a very basic expression of domination. But I like plenty of things lots of other people would consider degrading. As to whether guys like to do it, I think at least some of them ARE doing it to feel dominant, and get something out of feeling like they are slightly degrading the woman. I'm sure for some, it's just a general turn-on. I think that would be more likely to come up in gang bang situations.

Ok quick update: Not as good as mr and mrs naughty but here goes. I just read my last post to A (her) and it turns out she had a little fantasy of her own in the beginning of the summer. The Cable guy came to the house: So it turns out she found him hot and had a little wet fantasy of her own. That may not be a big deal for most of you but it is a giant step for us and the fact that she talked about it YAHOO. So thanks again to the Naughty's. Oh wait, I think I will need to call the cable guy soon what do you all think the odds of getting the same guy is? lol I couldn't be so lucky.

Thank you Thank you Thank you, This thread i read to my wife and all my fantasies of the waterboy. pizza guy, and ups guy proves to her I'm not nuts it is erotic to watch her seduce them. I always see them check her out and tell her to flirt back and go for it I would just love to watch. And she justs laughs me off. See that we haven't tried swinging yet it is pure fantasy but I LOVE IT ANYWAY. Mrs Naughty you go for it and let us all read what happen. I for one would love to see the the out cum of this. Thanks for sharing that with all of us and from your pics i think the waterboy is in for a real treat!