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We'll skip the "tit for tat"/"tit for tit" comments. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Send your version. Open the door. Invite them for a cup of coffee or hot chocolate or a drink in some public place. They either accept or they don't. You haven't lost a friend. If they do accept, give the ladies a chance to connect.

All I know is that I would be volunteering to help him in the future with any other projects he may have...

The deed is done. I sent a full-frontal nude of my wife - in the shower, glistening wet, not even a glass shower door to obscure the view - with the simple comment: "We have been enjoying Alicia's pic all week. Fair is fair. Enjoy!" A minute later: "OMG 😳" Then: "Fuck!! 🤩" Then: "But we sent that as payment for your services. Now we owe you again!" I don't want an ongoing pic exchange, so I replied "Let's get together in the new year and settle it then. Merry Christmas!" So it seems the story continues. In 25 years of swinging we have "broken in" several new couples, but never actual vanilla friends before. So at this point, we are open to any suggestions regarding next steps!

So last Sunday I helped a vanilla friend install a glass shower door and it pretty much took all day. I am one to have a naughty sense of humor, so I joked to him "payment for my services is a photo of your wife pressing her tits against the glass door". He laughed and joked back "I'll see what I can do". To my surprise he delivered. I received a text yesterday of his smiling naked wife with her big wet tits pressed against the shower door I helped him install. Honestly I was shocked. To my knowledge, they don't swing and they don't know we swing. It's not something we have ever brought up with them. I texted back "That is awesome thank you 😍". But now my mind is swimming. Does he know we're swingers and is this some sort of invite? I'm not 100% sure what my next move should be of if there should be one. What would yours be?

I have had a discussion with my wife about her haveing other men as im not as active as i was. a work friend has shown a load of interest in her and at a party he drunkingly told me how he still fancied my wife. i like this bloke and think he could give her what i cant and i know shes loves to meet with others how can i drop it to her that he wants to enjoy her as he said

Actually yes. If my GF is involved then a MFM. If she is not, then I would probably prefer a FMF.

Not for me personally. I don't mind FMF threesomes, but I don't like being the center of attention like that. I am definitely a Pleasure Dom/Service Dom, so I get off by through my partners' pleasure. My orgasm is physically satisfying, but mental/emotional satisfaction comes from my partners' pleasure, and I need that to truly have a good time.

I’ve been lucky to do both with Honey more MFM. What do I prefer? FMF! Most have included Honey.

I don’t think that people who send provocative boob pictures are nudists. They are provocateurs. Whether they are active or passive is the question. Some people get off on sending pictures, some swing, swap,etc.

I went back through your texts in this thread and I wondered that if this progresses, is this couple someone you guys would actually swap with? Flirting is nice, but going through with a swap with a couple that you socialize with is a different story.

Nope, I prefer it to not include my partner. Also in the FMF, I prefer the women to be unfamiliar with each other and in the MFM, I prefer neither of us males have ties with the female. I like the surprise aspect of having sex with 2 people that I am unfamiliar with!

No, not really. Our style was to get guys for MFMs with my wife, and I tremendously enjoyed that. But a few times, I was honored to be the 'other' man in an MFM with a couple, and I really enjoyed that as well. Either is pretty good.

So I showed the pic to my wife and confessed that I made the joke that prompted this - but it was just a joke. Her response was "I always got that vibe from them". Hm. I never really did but it wouldn't be the first time I was oblivious.

I doubt that they're swingers. I would suspect that the wife thought, "Hell, this could be fun," so she allowed it. Probably it led to some great sex between her and her husband. I wouldn't start the subject, I'd leave it be. If they bring it up, well, it's worth exploring. But if they just let it lie, I wouldn't push it. Remember the old adages about swinging with friends . . .

Wonderful self knowledge. I think that's really healthy. Walking in the others shoes.

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MFM everytime! I find FMF's boring and my wife is 100% straight and won't kiss another woman let alone do anything else with one. Im also straight but find a mfm much more exciting especially as my wife loves have two cocks at once!

We were with our neighbor. There was a ton of sexual tension between my wife and him. We ended up drinking and flirting. He and I began rubbing her tits nd making out. She undressed for us and and started sucking our cocks. She sucked his cock while I fucked her from behind - his dick was perfect and a lot bigger than mine. I could tell she was totally into him so I invited him to switch with me. I got on my back nd had her straddle my face - i figured it would drive her wild to have be eating her while he pounded her with his big cock. She came very fast and I shot a load in her mouth. when she was ready he put his cock in her again. While he was fucking i just instinctively rubbed his shaft with my tongue. As he pulled out of her i took the head of his cock in my mouth. He went back and forth between my mouth and her pussy until he finally went balls deep in her and ejaculated. I sucked his balls and could feel his thick cock pulsing as he put his load in her. It was a first for all of us. My wife was so turned on by the whole experience. We laid around afterwards and she continued to kiss us and play with our cocks. I held his cock as she sucked him off - he came again. My wife masturbated watching him sucking my cock. We sat back nd jerked off together until we both shot another load. She continues to totally get off seeing me with another guy.

I'm married and I love my wife, but her sex life is nothing. She never had sex with any one but me. I would love to share her with another guy or couple. Can anyone advise on how to convince her?

SchniderMike, First, whatever you do, do it for her, not yourself. Put yourself in last place. For that matter, don't even THINK about what swinging would do for you. Let her read some of what the folks on swingersboard have written. Second, convincing her isn't what you want to do. What you want to do is let her be well-informed about what the lifestyle is about. Let her in on the biggest of the dirty secrets about swinging - its fun, both sexually and socially. And if she responds favorably to your conversation/communication, you might suggest a "watch and be watched" situation (if she shows interest). She wouldn't have contact with the other couple, she'd only be with you. We played like this one time, with an incredibly hot couple who was visiting Vermont for a long weekend. OMG, it was so amazingly hot. And we never touched the other couple, other than hugs and a short kiss when we were leaving.

I thought so...and she also has never been with anybody else sexually, but you. Don't you think you are trying to leap the Grand Canyon in one jump, when you say you want to introduce her (convince her) to swing? I can't imagine that if you introduce her to this idea now, she would be open to it. Before anything, you need to gradually and gently open up sexual communication between the two of you. You have to both learn to be comfortable expressing your sexual desires together. Get "regular" books and videos about monogamous marital sex, and focus on expanding your sex life together. If she can't be comfortable with various sexual positions or anything new with you, why would she be comfortable and sexually open with strangers?? Let me find a thread for you that you can benefit from.... (see next post)

You both have to be interested. There are two kinds of convincing - trying to convince someone to do something they absolutely don't want to do, and trying to convince (or, better put, talk through concerns) someone to try something they actually are interested in but just hesitant about for whatever reason. Big difference between the two. If your situation is the first and you persist, you are inviting problems. If it's the second, do as others have said and talk, research, etc the topic together and see where it goes. One other thing to honestly ask yourself - 1) do you want this for her, even though she has said doesn't want it herself, 2) do you want this for you, either because you think seeing her with someone else would be hot or else give you the opportunity to be with someone else, 3) or do you both want this together to enrich your own relationship? If its not #3, might want to think long and hard about bringing it up again. She probably knows the answer, no matter which you tell her it is.

I concur... there's no convincing. Talk to her about what you'd like (she may surprise you). Share information too (like this site). We were scared to death and convinced that all swingers were like Austin Powers when we started. We researched and learned, not the case. If she's game then you're good. If not then you may have to send it to the world of fantasy (no convincing). Ms B

I have the same thing with my wife and the info i got here was really good, so good that i no longer ask her if she´s interested in another man, we go and do what we feel happy with and even up to date she hasn't bonked another man and she says she is happy that way so i have to accept that and yet we still have lots of fun with other couples. You may find you will have to accept that just does not want to, i have, although i still live in hope... whatever you do don´t bug her about it or she will get fed up and you may end up not swinging at all then all hope is lost and as the others have said she really needs to do this because she wants to and not because you want too, she may well end up blaming you if she has a bad time and if she isn't ready then she most likely will have a bad time.. Steve

well mmmmm i think u wont be able to convince her as this is very hard issue but the simplest thing is try to spice up your life with her for example watch adult movies together and try to show her films for MFM or FMF or gangbangs and c what is her comment, maybe she would like the idea, and maybe she would like to try. Best Wishes

Absolutely correct. Swingingis not something that you can convince anyone to do. In our case it took 26 years of building my partner up, making her see that she is a desirable and beautiful woman. Then when we did try, she found that yes, she was desired by other men and women and the confirmation of this caused a sexual revolution in our marriage. The danger is if you focus on swinging only, it could become one-sided and she may end up with a bad experience if she tries it just to please you...and this certainly is not what we want for our loved ones. Focus on her self esteem, many good articles on this site about this. A great new haicut, sexy underwear - just for her and the rest may well follow. Good luck and take your time.

You can't convince her. She has to want to do it.

There's lots of good information and advice to be found here. I would suggest you TALK to your wife about what you'd like, and what fantasies she may have. Keep in mind, though, that there's no "convincing her"--she has to decide this is what she wants for herself. You can lead a horse to water . . . =)