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We had a very nice session with our new friends. They hung in there! We were gentle, slow and did not try anything crazy. Don’t want to kiss and tell too much, but this is a wild hobby to get into.

This afternoon is the event. No is no and we’ll take it slow with clear and full consent. But we have played with newbies who are total tigers. We’ll see!

We are grateful that our first was with experienced friends. Knowing them didn’t take away the fear yet we were able to be ourselves as we allowed Debbie to be the one that had to be the one to say Go. Who made the first move?

Thank you for your understanding.

I agree that some women, especially submissive ones like my GF are less likely to set the ground rules and limits before play. I think this can be confusing for a lot of people and can result in a few different outcomes; some good and some bad. But that can also be why sometimes the husband/ boyfriend might be more controlling about her dos and don'ts - because she won't speak up for herself. I've been on that side of it on occasion where a guy asks or is hinting for something and I am left giving the green light. Most of the time it's not a big deal as I've become used to it from time to time. I've never really felt uncomfortable if I'm in the room and seeing another guy fuck my GF because even if there is no safe word or anything I can always just ask my GF if everything is OK, and if it's not, I can stop it. It's when I'm not around and she's with someone else that I worry more often because she isn't vocal about any limits beforehand and I'm not there to ask if she is OK or stop the action. I always tell her to have a safe word.

They all had a good time. Nothing unusual to report, just swapping and threesomes. Probably boring for those here that go to clubs and house parties. It was exciting for us opening up our poly family to some outside play, and for Joe and Shannon to have their second lifestyle experience after their visit with us. It was clear that there is high mutual interest between Joe/Shan and Red/Lora. What I found really interesting is how these two experiences with Joe and Shan have brought Red and Lora together. Previously, I saw Red as my lover, someone who I had brought into my marriage to David, while Lora and David were two "primaries" in our family. Red and Lora cared for one another, were sex partners, Lora has a child by Red. Now, however, they seem to have a deeper relationship, are a "couple." They do things together, just the two of them. Funny what playing can do.