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I like when that happens as well.

There is the low dose birth control pill. There is a birth control patch. Some people get a birth control implant in their arm. There is a birth control shot that works for 3 months. There are IUD's, coil thingies.......or getting ones tubes tied with the ability to untie them later. I don't understand the desire to potentially start a human life with a random stranger. I live in Texas and it is really scary here. You can go to jail if someone finds out that you are having an abortion. Or had an abortion.

When our situation was just me, my husband and my boyfriend, it made me incredibly happy not just for the sex I was given, but for the unselfish love it implied. How could I not let him?

I have had some comments to make about your problem... When I was still single I met a couple where the husband had similar physical problems and as a couple they were looking for a single male for the wife to enjoy a better sex life within their marriage. I played my part in giving the wife an enjoyable experience and the husband was always present. Both were very happy with their married life and the wife enjoyed a full sex life, playing, orgasms and the husband also enjoyed being watching and joining in when he could... They found balance between being a older couple but still being sexually active... They trusted each other and had no intentions of parting and leaving each other... If you are in a good marriage and happy with your life, playing with others to satisfy your sexual urges should not only make you happy but enhance your life as a couple... 💞

We always let the other couple know that the first meeting is just to meet and nothing more (to take the pressure off and to let everyone have the chance to talk and decide if they all want to play). However, if there is a big enough spark, and it is apparent that everyone is on board, we are willing to play...we just don't want anyone to feel obligated or that they should be taking one for the team. In your situation, a second meeting is probably going to be way down the road, so you should decide on a code phrase that tells your partner that you are in (or out) in advance. Some couples are looking for a connection (FWB like) while some are just wanting to play whenever they get together with another couple...connection not needed. Sounds like you are more of the first type and they are more of the second (nothing wrong with either...they are just different types). Keep one thing in mind...all of the texting/phone calls/emails in the world are not as good as spending 5 minutes in person with a couple. You will find out more in that 5 minutes than an eternity of any other communication. Good luck and let us know the outcome...

OK, I'll admit one of my fantasies is to eat my wife's pussy after another man has cum inside of her. I also wouldn't mind eating a cum filled pussy other than my wife's. I have had this fantasy for years, but have never had the chance to do it, mostly because my wife doesn't want me to and secondly because I haven't done it before and I have the "First Time Factor" syndrome....I guess I am a little reserved. I've asked my wife several times in the past before we play with another to let me come over after he has cum inside her and have me clean her up. She knows I want to suck her cum filled pussy. I've even considered eating her pussy after I cum in her, and a few times have come close but she gently pushes my head away. A few times I have brought myself just to climax then held back and cum a little in and on her pussy without her knowing and then went down on her and sucked her. So, how many people here, men and women like to have their pussies eaten after being fucked and like to eat cum filled pussies? I don't think I'm too weird. Maybe I am. I wish my wife would let me do it. I did have the opportunity once to suck my cum out of the female partner of a couple we were playing with, but I sort of chickened out....I think because it was all my cum. However I am sure if it was another man's cum I would have went right down and sucked her clean. What's others experiences? Yes or No? Good or Bad?

Now in our closed group of married bareback couples, no one ever washes up. We all like the mess, the smell, the taste, the feel of sloppy seconds. Our wives in particular, all bi, like to suck a flaccid sloppy dick after it emerges from a vagina having done what it is dicks do in there.

A remark from a physician. Everyone ages. How they age, what issues arise, how those issues appear...all of that is different from one person to the next, and one couple to the next. It is the rule rather than the exception that libido, capability, stamina, soreness, dryness, responsiveness to medications, etc change as humans journey through the arcs of their lives. What matters is how the person(s) adapt as individuals and as a couple. Intimacy and passion do not have expiration dates, but physical capacities do have "best by" dates. That does not mean that sex cannot be enjoyed, but it does mean that it is likely going to feel different and be different. Of course you should seek medical advice. And even more important, you should have the kitchen table conversations (note the plural) about all aspects of aging and how you as a couple will handle those issues. From a general health standpoint, I often remark to my patients the following. Let's assume that you have the gift of continuing on life's journey together. Imagine four couples on the journey. Let's look at long-term care needs. One couple, neither will need long term care; two couples, one of the partners will need long term care; the last couple, both partners will need long term care. Do the math, and you'll realize that there is a 3/4 chance that at least one of the two of you will need long term care, a 50:50 chance that it will be *you*, and a 1/4 chance that it will be *both of you*. How will you handle each of those scenarios? It's a short step from there to asking, how are we going to handle decline in sexual interest/capacity? The breakdown is pretty much the same--there's a 50:50 chance that there will be an asymmetry.

So very hot and sexy

We're a bit older than you, similar situation, and very much enjoying the 'hotwife' lifestyle. Swinging doesn't have to be all couples-swap even-steven, it can be more one-sided. What's important is that you're both enjoying it and feeling good about it. She won't do anything without your permission, and what reason would you have to deny her? She won't leave you. She'll love you even more for letting her have it all and not making her choose. And trust me, you'll have a pretty good time along the way too!

This is a potentially exhilarating hobby.

I agree with discreetplay. Don't go there with the neighbors. Imagine...Your wife and the other husband watching you get oral, then penetrate and then oral again from this other woman while she and he play touchy feely like they're 13 because she won't do oral or receive oral. The neighbor wouldn't be getting much based on your description of your vanilla sex. While you would be getting something new and exciting (there is little chance the neighbor is vanilla like your wife) he'd be getting nothing new or exciting. The experiences we've had, when the sexual involvement is different between the couples, it isn't much fun. My SO is an oral goddess. We were with another couple where the wife tried but it showed she wasn't interested in giving. She laid on the bed while my SO went back and forth between me and the other husband. He was barely able to stand as his legs grew wobbly while he was getting the best oral he'd ever had. I was in heaven watching her give it to him and then back to me. I have a video of this encounter and it is so crazy hot. Yet the look on the other wife's face while she laid on the bed said it all. Once the encounter was over, we never heard from them again. I spoke with the other husband off the record, asking why they didn't want to meet up again. He said that the 10 minutes of oral was enough to stop their LS encounters for 6 months because his wife was so pissed. Their marriage survived, they had been in the LS for years, but she really didn't like him enjoying oral like that when she hated giving it. There are so many land mines here that can blow up your life. No way it is worth it.

For us, we had a similar opportunity with neighbors. They were lifelong friends of my wife and there had been some interaction between all of them in the past (the other couple didn't know I was in the know of the things that had occurred in the past). We had a huge hot tub. They came over often for meals, games, etc. There was always some comments made (I'm a flirt and always drop innuendo regardless of who we're hanging out with...all in fun). Knowing the other wife would be game immediately and the husband would give anything to do my wife, nothing ever went further than the flirty talk. My wife and I decided that dipping a toe in that pool could destroy the friendship. It just wasn't worth it. My advice would be to join a site if you're interested in bringing someone else into your bedroom. While playing with the neighbor is easy and convenient, there is a high likelihood of four newbies messing things up. With the convenience, who is the first to become jealous when one spouse is working from home while the spouse of the other couple wanders over for lunch? Especially when your wife doesn't do oral and the neighbor's wife does. Is there an accusation of a morning BJ when you take too long to get the paper? What about your one-partner wife finding her inner sex goddess while riding the neighbor's large-then-your cock? She no longer seems content with your average ride as often as she used to and seems to only want sex when the neighbor's monster truck is involved. Simple friendly banter that occurs now will be looked on differently. This is especially true when one of the husbands can't get it up during an encounter (nerves are terrible for erections) while the other is a stallion. One of the men, maybe you or maybe him, could become infatuated with the other/new woman, like he's 17 again. These physical encounters will be an hour, a couple hours once, twice a week....but you live next to them 24 hours a day, every day. What happens when you give it a try and one of the four involved didn't enjoy it? Does the for sale sign go up? What happens when your kids see mom or dad is heavily flirting and touchy with the neighbor? If you were both experienced LS couples, I'd say what the heck. You've been there before and know you can handle the sights and sounds. Newbies...no way.

We met our first for dinner and drinks followed with calls and texts before we finally played. First meetings have been called terrifying even after having that first experience, my heart still races after meeting numerous times.

After electric lights for homes, one of the first (if not the very first) non-industrial or non-public uses of electricity was to power vibrators as a means of providing women with orgasms. As many on this board are aware, in the late 19th century women "suffering" from the now long-discredited diagnosis of hysteria were masturbated to orgasms by their physicians. Other sex toys, mostly dildos, trace their origins back centuries, but by the early 20th century vibrators became popular home appliances, though always marketed euphemistically as for "relaxation of tight muscles" or "stress reduction". Reviewing this thread I found myself thinking about my personal history with spouses/lovers and toys, and also about my acquaintance through a different business with Tex Williams, who a half-century ago was the first person to market a vibrator, dubbed the Prelude 3, explicitly for sexual enjoyment. I did an internet search for Tex and the Prelude 3 and (exclusive of ads for vibrators) the second citation after a 1981 NY Times article on the business of non- prostitution sex was my 2018 post right here on the Swingers Board. 😂😊 (Which cited the now 42-year-old Times article.) For those interested, so you don’t have to go searching through the board’s archive, see below my nearly six-year-old comment. The only thing I will now add is that among the 200 or so women I’ve engaged with over my 60+ years of being sexually active, not only is there a small minority of women who for one reason or another don’t wish to receive oral, so too is there a segment of sexually active women who find even gentle vibrators too intense to be enjoyable. And a number of women (and their male partners) who are turned off by the prospect of using any toys in any context. (I’m not judging; each of us as individuals and as partners in pleasure have to determine what works for us and what doesn’t.) Here is my original comment: Posted May 28, 2018 I have no problem at all with my partners using vibrators (or other toys) when we play, though I’ve had several experiences with couples where the woman was shy about using any of the toys — vibes, plugs or dildos — that she normally uses with her husband or S.O. It’s like, threesomes or moresomes are cool, but somehow toys are too pervy to use except alone or when they are alone with their regular partner. I know that 130 years ago vibrators were one of the first applications once homes (and doctors’ offices) were wired for electricity. But it was only in the early 1970s that discussions of the use of vibes for sexual gratification became common in the popular press (and I think among casual friends.) My first wife and I married when we were in our early 20s, and it was only during our courtship that she had learned to have orgasms. Once we discovered vibrators she became totally entranced on how easy it made her cum. And I became a regular Johnny Appleseed among friends and lovers, sometimes purchasing vibes for our friends who were too shy to frequent an adult bookshop. (Which was pretty much the only place in those days one could buy sex toys.). I introduced both of my subsequent wives to vibrators and they quickly became so canditioned to the ease of achieving orgasm that they stopped being able to cum through intercourse. Which has never been an issue for me. My current wife, who was always an easy cummer (when she was younger she would sometimes finger herself to orgasm when on long solo drives) is now almost 70 and after 30+ years of vibrator play is experiencing the strongest and longest orgasms of her life. What’s not to like there? Plus, we have found a couple of positions for intercourse where a wand-type vibrator provides such strong stimulation that I experience quite intense vibratory pleasure as well. Backtracking to the early 1970s, my first real job out of college was selling business equipment in New Jersey. The son of the owner of the business ran an affiliated business that sold tab cards (only us old people will remember when tab cards were the main way of entering computer data) but on the side he started a business selling through the mail a massager-type vibrator called the Prelude 3. It was to the best of my knowledge the first vibrator that was unabashedly marketed for the purpose of providing sexual stimulation and satisfaction. I just did a quick internet search for Tex Williams and Prelude 3 and came up with this 1981 article from The New York Times. It’s worth reading if you need a reminder of how far things have come in the past three and a half decades: https://www.nytimes.com/1981/02/09/nyregion/sex-is-a-growing-multibillion-business-first-of-two-articles.html Here is the specific reference to Tex & the Prelude 3: “Tex Williams, developer of the Prelude 3 vibrator, whose success has spurred several major companies to enter the field, said that vibrator sales now totaled about 1.3 million units a year, worth $15 million. The agency always refers to the therapeutic use of such instruments, but they are often used for sexual stimulation, as manufacturers know.”

For my wife, human contact was important, and very arousing, but her biggest and best orgasms were with my tongue and her vibrator. It had nothing to do with the skill of the other lover, but her being open to her lover to "let" him or her bring her to an orgasm. To her, orgasms were VERY personal, and as a result, swinging was foreplay, with the big orgasm when we were alone (or she was alone with her toy). We are all wired differently, and if you are okay with who you are, that is what is important. No reason to get angry.

ROCKlandCpl, your post has generated an interesting discussion with a wide variety of opinions represented. But in looking back at your original post I find myself quite curious about two things. First, what was her response to your question what makes her "…enjoy solitary sex over human contact…? Second, what was it about that response that you found "surprising" and "depressing" and that stirred feelings of anger? (Please don’t take this as implicit criticism in any way; I’m looking for your insights about this.)

We never went to a first meeting intending it to be a sexual encounter, but the option was always open. No words were necessary. I would look into her eyes and know if she wanted to move in that direction, and as we all know, she is in charge in those situations. That is what worked for us.

We're not against playing on a first meet, per se, but it's such a rare occurrence as to be nonexistent. The absolute last thing we want is for any of the four of us to 'take one for the team', and a first meetup lets both couples communicate privately and without pressure about it. If all four of us are overwhelmed with feelings of 'OMIGOSH we have to play now' on that first meet, it's pretty apparent to everyone. But if there's even the slightest hesitation by one of the participants, it's best to finish the first date, regroup with your partner, and make plans regarding a next time to play. At least, this is the way we do it. YMMV.

My wife and I have met couples and singles on first dates and had an evening of sexy fun together. But those were rare and mostly when we were on holiday... The majority of our partners were via messages and working out if we had a connection. (the couple who talked about politics...!!! Mad as Cheese on a Tuesday..!!!) Over all we had a wide circle of 'Friends' and acquaintances that we met and enjoyed their company... I have always thought that a good evening and meeting should be like a great Hollywood Movie... Its should be fun, enjoyable and take you out of your normal life into a fantasy world. Where you are connected to wonderful experience.

How could I not? :) Though, I didn't want to interject too much. One of them in particular was fantastic for her. She could not get enough sex with him. I didn't want to deny her time having sex with him, when I could have sex with her at home. A week later, she followed this evening up with a solo date with him. Hours and hours of sex. She came home a very happy woman :)

We tend to meet up for drinks, small snack/meal and then go to a hotel. Like many couples, we only have a certain amount of time to devote to meeting others, playing so by the time we meet up we expect to play that evening. I know many couples that will "date" (for lack of a better term) a few times before playing. That would be great except with our schedules we can arrange a day or two a quarter at most so when we get that day, we want to play. So we do a lot of front-end chatting before we meet so the first meet isn't like a blind date. By the time we meet up, the ice has melted.

I (Mr) have no issue licking my cum, kissing after oral or any other interaction with my cum. I tasted it long ago so I could understand what a woman was tasting when she swallowed me. I've never found it to be gross. Sometimes it is thicker than others. The taste is pretty consistent. As for others, our play sessions where the men have finished have been in their SO's mouth or vagina. Sometimes the guys please the women until they raise the white flag, and then the guys quickly finish with their SOs. We have always preferred to exhaust the wives before ourselves, with our climax being rather anti-climactic.

Families and kids are not better off living in a dysfunctional household! You are not doing anyone any favours including yourself. Good luck on your future.

How about an IUD? Or you can get a vasectomy and if she gets pregnant, it’s very unlikely you are the father, might push her to birth control. Hope you live in a pro-choice state. As others said, you need a talk.

The women in our poly family don't usually suck dick to ejaculation, and when we do, we usually swallow after making a big deal of rolling it around in our mouth. Our guys aren't shy about kissing afterwards. Sometimes, however, before swallowing we women will snowball it back and forth between us. The guys like watching, but won't participate.

Well As far as on the tits well Red prefers for the cum to be inside her, and I love eating her out after this happens whether it my cum or someone else's. But in this case her juices are flowing so well it the main thing in the mixture. As for the original question I can see my self doing it but only after massaging it onto her tits for awhile then sucking and licking them clean again. What ever make Red happy I am fine with. At least so far there has been nothing that has bothered me.

There are those nights where ANYTHING goes Teresa

mine and my hubby's fave...we both do it ..of course only with our long time couples who are like wise married. My man loves to eat his own or someone elses ..it is all the same to him...hot and erotic... facelick

Idiopathic Peripheral Neuropathy, treat the symptoms is all you can do, already see the best Nuero guy in the areas Sometimes I have no issues, sometimes I need a little yellow pill but sometimes I need Trimix.

Same here. We'll meet someone online, exchange chats/emails. If we're a match, we'll try to schedule a time to meet. Scheduling is tough with work travel, babysitters, etc so if we can get on the same page with a couple we seem to match with, it's a go when we meet. We have aligned the stars before only to meet up with a couple who were the opposite of what they presented in chats/emails. I'm not talking about looks. As long as your claims about looks are close, we're good. Don't say you're 6'0 190 with 5% body fat and turn out to be 5'9 (at best) and build like the Pillsbury Doughboy. We've met up with couples that focused all their small talk during drinks and hors d'oeuvres on the supreme court and political talk. Talk about killing the mood. We spent weeks chatting while waiting for our schedules to align. Finally were able to get a night setup. A lot of money on a babysitter, drinks, food and a room only to have them kill the vibe babbling about politics. They were heavily talking about subjects that were just downers. We want to have a small meal, couple drinks and spend an hour or two having naked fun.