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For us in our poly family, we are deeply in love with more than one person, live together, share children we've made together. We also, however, on occasions have strictly instinctual animal sex with others. They are friends, but it is understood that it is only carnal pleasures.

The first time I had sex with a Black woman I was struck in a nice way by that same contrast. With subsequent Black partners it was just like any other partner, a gorgeous lickable & fuckable pussy that was hopefully part of a woman I could feel connected with, at least in the moment.

We don't have English as a native language, so you can be forgiven if some things aren't quite right. We are a Christian couple and like to live out love as it was given to us with others. Sex is a fundamental part of our human life and we live it as we should, with respect for others, deep devotion and love for our intimate friends. Through sex with others we feel very strengthened in our relationship as a couple and through our choice of romantic partners we also feel very loved and very strongly connected to each another. He gives us a lot of extra love and warmth. And yes, as believing Christians, we enjoy this wonderful and particularly great gift from God that we also like to pass on our love to others through sex. We have hardly received any criticism for it so far. Some of those we have met so far did not find our Christian background negative, but rather much more exciting and loved the heartfelt aspect, as we are not only concerned with the sex drive but also with the mental well-being of our love partners. An exchange here would be nice. It would be nice to find like-minded who don't judge us for it or others here who would like to exchange their thoughts. with deep desire and love Lara and Chris

I agree with Numex. Just be aware that finding a good single male is not unlike vanilla dating. You're probably going to find some duds before finding a good one. That's how it was for my wife and I. Be patient.

When we were having our first MFM experiences, it was sometimes awkward and meh. I attribute it to the fact that these were first threesomes of any type not only for both us but also for the the other guys as well. These were the first guys that Daniela had fucked after we decided that she should play while I didn't. Her just hotwifing with them was easy for all of us because they were past lovers, so what they were doing was comfortable for them and seemed inconsequential for me because she had fucked them before anyway, and they were exes for a reason. Once we started couples swapping with lots of permutations among our group, alone play, etc., threesomes of both types became a regular activity which we enjoy. Since you are experienced swingers already, you probably won't have the novice problems that we had, but my advice is still, if possible, seek out a male for your third who is experienced with MFMs.

My first wife and I had a monogamous but vigorous sex life. We still had sex during and after the divorce for a while. Yes, it began when Daniela had a many lovers, both men and women before me, many more than I had despite her being much younger. It turned us both on to talk and hear about our past sexual experiences, although mine consisted of sex with the same woman for twenty years. It didn't take long for me to realize that Daniela was inherently not a one man woman, and liked sex with women as well. I wanted her to be happy, so for a while she played while I didn't. Then we started couple swapping and are now in a closed group of married couples.

Sorry, Couplers, I simply can't agree with this idea. "Who did the roses come from?" I can imagine someone asking, "If it was your husband, why didn't he include a card? Is it a special occasion?" The first thing in your (non-sexual) interactions with your swing partners is to avoid any embarrassment or outing them to vanilla people.

Not surprising. My guess is that most people, women particularly, have a heightened desire to have sex with people that they already know. Even people who they don't know personally but are famous attract attention, like when celebrity nudes are "leaked."

I’m not sexually attracted to other men even a little bit. I don’t want to make out with one and I *definitely* don’t want to engage in anal sex with one (in either “direction”). But I AM intellectually curious about what it’s like for a woman to give a man a blowjob. My wife has exchanged oral with another female on a couple of occasions, so she now knows what it is for a man to go down on a woman. Sometimes I think I’d like to have similar knowledge.

The only love involved for us is the love of sex. There is no intimate or loving feelings between anyone except the two of us.

Anyone that doesn't respond is doing you a favor for whatever reason they didn't respond. Maybe they are not interested, maybe it's someone who is just fantasizing that their partner would do this with them, maybe they are picture collectors, maybe there wasn't a spark and they are looking for a spark (when we meet another couple, that's what we are looking for). Whatever the reason they don't respond, they are saving you time and effort that you can use to find someone else that may be interested. Back when we were starting, we met a couple for dinner and instantly hit it off. Had a great evening talking about sex and everything else to where we ended closing the place down (what, you're closing...we only just got here...3 hours ago). We left looking forward to our next meeting, but they fell off the earth after that. At first, we were disappointed and kept asking what we did wrong, especially since it was such an enjoyable night, but finally came to the conclusion that they just did us a favor and saved us the time and effort we would have spent on them when they weren't interested, or ready, or all on the same page, or whatever the reason was. Finding a four way match is HARD, and nobody said that it wouldn't be. All we know is that when we found a match, it started a fire and all of the disappointment and difficulty was worth it. Just keep going and don't take it personally. And lastly, beware the Ides of March...

Love is a good thing. My wife has boyfriends (I do not have girlfriends). Does love enter the picture with some of her boyfriends? Of course. It wouldn't be as good for her otherwise, and I know that if they're alone together he is treating her good because there are real feelings. Women have the capacity to love different people differently and it doesn't mean she loves me less. There is no such thing as too much love.

If a guy has a high body count people say things like he's just sowing his wild oats, he's experienced, a real man's man, or boys will be boys. But if a woman has a high body count we're called sluts, whore, and loose. Guys say we must be a loose and sloppy lay cause so many guys have been in there. We lie and fudge our numbers because Guys can't handle our body count in a mature way. If we go out to a bar or club you have no clue how much attention we get. Finding a sexual partner is too easy, and contrary to popular belief we do get horny. We like sex too.

This is what we did on Boxing Day. We met up with a dear friend and he pampered her tenderly and lovingly and he fucked her in the spoon position and I cuddled with her. Then she turned around and smooched with him and I enjoyed her sweet sperm-filled paradise from behind and gave her also my sperm. It was such a wonderful Christmas experience 😘

Neither do I, but there are differences to appreciate, savor. Two things for me are Lora's hair and the contrast between her dark skin and the pink between her legs.

East of Eden is the Land of Nod, where Adam and Eve were banished after the fall. It's also a John Steinbeck novel. Nothing needs to be made up. You were at church, getting closer to God and calling out His name. Our guys may have decreased in the number of orgasms that they can have in a session, but are able to maintain an erection for quite a while, up to an hour. This allows them to get multiple women to orgasm before they ejaculate.

It was an odd way too for me to exert that power, from telling David and Red that I would give them whatever they wanted sexually and as much as they wanted but from me only, to setting David up with a stream of women so as for me to play with my own jealousy. (Red started later, so for a while I had a husband who played and a boyfriend who didn't.) Neither complained. Guys just want sex, they don't care so much about which woman. It did, however, turn out for the best, we all found love in Clair, I discovered my Lezzie side, Clair got pregnant and we started a family.

I love going down on the Mrs after she has a nice big creampie in her!!!

This is so interesting to me, I always wondered why more women don't realize their power in relationships and sex. I viewed women giving a man oral sex and having the power over him in her mouth and hand .

Christian Swinging, after over two decades of being monogamous my wife and I decided to open our marriage to swinging in most of its variations, then adding on hotwife activity. We started by recollecting about our past lovers and fantasizing together. After nearly three years of talking about it, we jointly decided to jump into the pool. We knew many couples who'd been monogamous for years or decades, and then became open in one fashion or another. It usually happened as they were hitting the empty next period of their lives.

In our case as well, it was my wife who was much more experienced, mostly having two men going romantically at once as well as a woman just for sex. My wife says, however, that I've had more sex because I had a very active, albeit monogamous, sex life with my ex-wife. My wife learned that before I did.

The morning time pressure is part of the excitement of it. We women are almost always able to climax with or ahead of our guys because we know they have down time after ejaculation. With two men and three women, one of the guys usually has to get one of us women off before he cums, then finish in another. And if all else fails, there's the quick licking...

Clair, Lora, and I all prefer FFM. It satisfies both sides of our bisexuality. Although I will admit, it is still great when both of the guys just take me. Quickly, one after the other. Twosome or threesome is my preference, but then I can go with another one or two afterwards. It's the guys that run out of capability before the women. It depends on who is up for what. Anything is possible, except the two guys together. With us living together and sharing child care responsibilities, it's easy. It's usually spontaneous, not organized.

I Petra lived with my fiancé Red, until I called it off and moved out. But we kept seeing one another. Then I met David and we started dating and having sex, all the while I was still visiting Red to talk about it and have sex. Having two men going both made me feel guilty (I was raised strict Catholic) but it also felt right, natural. Because I spoke openly about Red (but not that we were still fucking), David quickly figured it out, and when I thought that he was going to dump me, David calmly said it's ok. At first I went back and forth between them, but eventually we ended up doing MFMs sometimes. David and I married, but nothing changed with Red. I was jealous and not interested in sharing, so the guys remained monogamous with me. I tried hard to keep them satisfied. After two years, eventually something snapped in me and I began setting up David with female friends and acquaintances of mine for sex. (In our early twenties, it was surprising how many women were eager for another woman's husband.) I was still extremely jealous, but loved it and it brought out my Lesbian side. Clair became a regular, we fell in love with her and she moved in with David and me. Clair became pregnant by David, was upset, and offered to abort but we wanted her to keep it and I decided to get pregnant too. I went pot luck with both Red and David. Having those children cemented us as a family. We also played with Lora, who brought in her boyfriend/fiancé/husband Walter to play along. Eventually, Lora and David fell in love and when Walter took a job on the other coast Lora stayed with us and divorced Walter. Lora, Clair, and I had a second round of children. We bought and moved into a very large house. Clair and Lora had two more kids. We are now a thriving family of five adults and seven children. I'm often astounded how we got here. I consider ourselves in the lifestyle, but not really swingers, although we have occasionally played and are currently involved with one other couple occasionally, just for fun sex.

For us in our poly family, the hard quick ones are usually weekday mornings when time is short. The men just want release. The love making is when we have more time and a connection develops between two or three of us. I like it both ways and can orgasm quickly with a guy (or both) when needed, so all is good. If Lora or especially Clair doesn't cum, I love going down on her to finish her off (and lick cum).

I don't mind when it starts, but as I get into the fucking and closing in on orgasm, I breathe heavily and don't want a dick in my mouth. And I like to kiss the guy I'm fucking. Yes, that plus I just like pussy and tits. Especially with a woman who has just had sex with one of "my" men.

Having said that, I much prefer FFMs when it's a threesome. The dynamics are better and I'm bi. If I'm going to be with multiple guys, I like them one at a time. More than one dick at a time I find somewhat annoying. (Unless it's DP.)

I love to do that too

I agree that some women, especially submissive ones like my GF are less likely to set the ground rules and limits before play. I think this can be confusing for a lot of people and can result in a few different outcomes; some good and some bad. But that can also be why sometimes the husband/ boyfriend might be more controlling about her dos and don'ts - because she won't speak up for herself. I've been on that side of it on occasion where a guy asks or is hinting for something and I am left giving the green light. Most of the time it's not a big deal as I've become used to it from time to time. I've never really felt uncomfortable if I'm in the room and seeing another guy fuck my GF because even if there is no safe word or anything I can always just ask my GF if everything is OK, and if it's not, I can stop it. It's when I'm not around and she's with someone else that I worry more often because she isn't vocal about any limits beforehand and I'm not there to ask if she is OK or stop the action. I always tell her to have a safe word.

You and I just live in different universes. I see it as something she wants to do with someone, but not someone else, i.e. me. For whatever reason, it's ok.

Perhaps I am a one percenter, but that's me. When my wife is playing alone with a woman, couple or another man I don't know what she is doing. My only hope is that she is enjoying herself. As for me, another wife in our group and I have gone off on trips alone. Both Daniela and her husband are fine with it. What do we do? Have sex, yes, but we go off to engage in vanilla activities that our spouses have no interest in. The whole fun thing about swinging is the difference between what you do with others and what you do at home.

Quite frankly, I don't see having another guy sticking his dick in my wife's shit hole as anything special, whether she lets me do it or not.

From a woman's perspective, I like to turn these kinds of questions around. Have you ever been part of gangbanging a guy? Lora, Clair and I have had three-on-ones with hubby, Red and Walter. Getting them to do two of us is not too difficult, but the third erection and orgasm is a struggle. He had to lick each one of us too. None of them have raised any subsequent concerns about being "abused."

Any man without the curiosity to at least try, fuck a goat, fuck from this completely new perspective, is a man with heavy blinders on his sexuality. To call it bestiality misses the point. Its pansexual. Let me splain for the 100th time. Both your statement and my parody of it hold equal attraction to me. To put it into prose.... I could not would not, in a house. I would not, could not, with a mouse. I would not do it with a Fox. I would not also like to suck cocks. I would not blow them here or there. I would not blow them anywhere. I would not suck one or get schtupped. I do not like them, Chicup.

Sounds like you should have a talk with her - during follow-up play session. Send her a dozen roses at work (anonymously), call and invite her and her husband to dinner, apologize and have make-up sex. It's a dating game.

I had a coworker and we both worked midnight shift, after he got off work he went to his girlfriend's house, both are vanilla. He took a shower and hopped in bed and started foreplay. When he started oral he found out she had been used and left immediately and broke up with her. Needless to say that he wasn't into sloppy seconds!