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My wife pumped breast milk when she went back to work. After our daughter was weaned, there was a surplus of milk leftover. Daniela used it for cookies, which were served to unknowing vanilla friends. I thought it perhaps unethical, but she said if people are willing to eat the milk of a dirty cow, why not a clean woman?

Okay Boomer, Tik-Tok is not that hard and it won't kill you. Just click the link.

Why do we men are more interested in dick size from the women. The first time i was with a girl I worried if I was big enough or smaller. I wondered what she would tell her girlfriends or if if girls talked about it. I found out they do talk schoolgirl talk. Guys bragged about who they fucked and girls talked what fucked them. I got married and we didn’t talk size even if I wondered how I measured up. Swinging for years now I still wonder what the other guys have, again she hardly ever mentions it. I asked her to be honest if size matters or if it ever mattered. She always said size doesnt unless…. I push her about Big Ones, I don’t know if she just said because she thought I wanted to hear she gets excited at larger then adds very few are that large. She doesn’t take a ruler to bed not needing to know exact size. On one occasion when dick size came up she learned way back how to measure without measuring. A few of her school friends were high talking about guys they knew and who had a big one. Her friend taught her a trick, her hand is 3” wide. I said a hand is 4”. She was right, her hand is just 3”. She said almost every guy she dated were two hands, a few had a dick head sticking out. I asked was anyone 3 hands, she said almost but not a full 3. She added she was able to wrap her hand around most too.

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Reality is average is real which means some are more some are less. Size is not important unless someone is in the outside limits. As a couple looking for our first meet we looked at profiles together and saw an attractive young lady with a man who in the profile was larger. We both thought they would be fun as a first. How big was he? I didn’t measure, just bigger. Back in my school days we used to talk. I had a friend talk about small making fun of a date she had. I had a friend claiming she was with an arm sized guy. I thought she was just stereotyping a boyfriend, the so called myth. Eventually I had to check out her lie, it wasn’t. I said he had to be 12”, I have no real idea to his real size. In the last 10 years I never saw a man as big as that one memory, most are 5-6 some look bigger, not many are huge as some have written.

Reading all the older posts makes me laugh because almost every guy is above average. Also find it hysterical that the men know the size of the dicks of the men screwing their wives and no wives bragging about the men. Do the men bring rulers to the bedroom?

Think you should buy lottery tickets. Statistics say the US has 2.4 million swingers, men making up half 1.2 million. Of those men .6% or 6 in 1000 are 9”. 1% have 8” For some perspective, an erect penis of 6.3 inches falls into the 95 percentileTrusted Source, according to 2014 research, meaning that only 5 out of 100 people would have a penis longer than 6.3 inches. I’m not a statistician, what are the odds of an 8”, 7” and over 6” group of swingers are fucking the same woman on any day? FanDual says that parlay will make you a rich man.

Sure are plenty of Big Dicks here

I am not a sexologist or expert on men’s size even if I have seen many, more in the last 5 or 6 years to give me an idea of what most men have. I know from scientific studies most men, the average, are under 6”. I don’t measure men and can’t say how big a man’s penis is, I can only feel that science is correct. I heard and read over and over again that women don’t care, we don’t because we usually meet men that are average or a little outside the average range. I can answer does it make a difference for me, it doesn’t for most men I have been with if the question is larger more pleasurable. Where size does matter is in my visual excitement. It’s not physically better sex, I feel seeing a man who is larger excites me because we have all been convinced bigger is better. The reality is there aren’t that many that stop me and say wow he was huge.

My wife is hot, big huge breasts. So pretty you would never think she would say any of this. These are some kinky things said during sex, I would love your opinion on, whether this is dirty talk or does she want to try some of these things. None of it offends me, it turns me on. She wants to go down on a girl as I bang her from behind. She said she wanted to suck my dick with another girl. She wants me and another person to suck on her tits at the same time. One time when i was using a cockring that had another cock attached to it, I was roleplaying DP-ing her she said "I want all my holes filled" I want cum in all my holes at the same time. She asked if I would lick someone else's cum off her tits? Another time she said if you blindfold me and tie me up, you can do whatever you want to me and i wouldn't know. Also, We are in NWI maybe you could coach us, we haven't tried anything but some public sex on rooftops lol.

Actually, two great shots.

You got my suggestion backwards. You need to be bound and not blindfolded and forced to watch your wife enjoy herself with one or two other men. After they finish you can be untied and see how much you want her. That is how you get over your inhibitions and have the best sex ever. Let the wives discuss how they want to play. It doesn't have to be an even trade, just whatever makes the women happy.

I'm ALWAYS there with my man. I love watching the guy action, encouraging, helping them, getting off with them.

I agree and even better in pairs... grrrrrr

Well there certainly are enough men around willing to cum on a lady's breast, I bet the two of you kind find multiple guys at one time so you get can a large mouthful...

We've been so busy over the past year traveling with work, friends/sex couples, so many many very many mouthfuls of cum, so many day, weeks, months. It's been marvelous! We have opened up more to cum kissing with others which also has opened us up to more one on one fucking and oral with others in our group. Gotta love the ladies and gents, clean group, super healthy, everyone always tastes amazing! It is funny that Confused Husband brings this up because after all the cum and juices we've all drank and swapped, most of the men are still skiddish about taking their own straight from the tap. We have fun parties centered around this simply because it is so entertaining trying to get most of the men to loosen up. We've tried about everything imaginable and still many are very challenged. Ironic! They are good to go with kissing us with their own cum but something else has to be taking place the majority of the time.

She didn’t share it with me until at least a month after she’d broken off the relationship. But if she had told me during the course of the affair or when she was considering initiating it, I like to think I would have supported her in that. True, I’m looking back from the perspective of a half-century later after I’ve been in an ENM relationship for two decades. However, there was another occasion during her time in medical school when one of her fellow students invited her to accompany him on an out-of-town meeting of some medical-student organization. It was clear that the invitation included having sex. I encouraged her to accept the invitation. If she hadn’t been considering it I don’t think she would have brought it up with me. But in the end she declined. I believe she was more interested in MFMF activities, but as I’ve noted previously the logistics on making that happen were difficult in the days before the public internet.

I've never personally seen 12 inches but I know they're out there and so are the size queens who want them. Neither are "average" people, but they absolutely exist. I'm average but almost every SM we've played with has been above average - noticeably bigger and thicker than me sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot. But still never saw 12 inches.

Was the affair with your knowledge and encouragement? That was very loving of you. Was the aftermath as positive as I am assuming for both of you? Again, my past is somewhat similar in our mutual, consensual exploration beyond marriage, and I find these stories romantic and touching.

I had to look up what you meant. "I don’t think you know how big 12 inches is. Do you see that, just in scale? Where is that going? Not in here, okay? The average gal is gonna get about that much, maybe this if they’re a pro, but the rest of that, completely unmanageable. This is the biggest I’ve ever seen in real life. But this is fine, it’s completely fine. This fabulous. Almost too big. Definitely too big. Fucking sick day. ER. 27 Club. And now I’m just skipping my next life. Anything after that is highly unethical. I don’t think we know what we’re talking about."

What's the Readers Digest version on this? I don't do Tiktok.

Granted, butt they are a distinct minority compared to the things we turned down when we had the chance. I'll only speak for myself. I wish I had pulled the trigger on things more than I wish I hadn't.

Numex, indeed. My first wife had very little sexual experience prior to the beginning of our relationship. Although attractive she hadn’t dated in high school and very little as an undergraduate. I think I recall correctly that she’d had quite brief sexual liaisons with three guys. We knew each other for two years through an extracurricular organization, and I’d had the hots for her from literally the first moment I’d set eyes on her. I wanted to date her so bad, but other than a couple of desultory friend-zone dates, she just wasn’t interested. Until she suddenly was. She’d graduated but several months later was back in town with nothing really going on in her life. I asked her to a party at the off-campus house where I was living for my senior year. We’d had just enough wine to be relaxed and then the kissing started. Within a few days we had begun having sex. A lot! Like, I quit going to class and for a couple of weeks we primarily stayed in bed and fucked. She had so little prior experience; had never masturbated or had an orgasm. This was her first serious romantic or sexual relationship and she was keen to explore. And I was happy to do so with her. We married about 18 months later. She continued to be interested in exploring sex. I think she always was a bit envious of my much broader sexual experience coming into our relationship and felt as though she’d somehow missed out, While she was in medical school, beyond the soft swing with another couple (the wife in that couple and I have now been married for 34 years) and her affair with her classmate, we discussed swinging (or as it was then referred to, "wife swapping" 🙄). She expressed interest in having sex with a couple of other guys she knew from school and I gently encouraged her to pursue that interest. We also discussed looking for MFMF possibilities, but the logistics in those pre-internet days were daunting for a couple who were in medical school and grad school. So yeah, @Numex, "what might have been." After a decades-long period of relative estrangement following the sad end of our marriage we are now again quite close friends. We have lunch every couple of months and speak on the phone weekly. We had lunch last week with our spouses and a mutual friend who was visiting. She clearly deeply loves her husband, who is a terrific guy. She has implied that she’s no longer sexually active, but did so in a way that suggested she didn’t miss sex. If circumstances were different I’d still want to have a sexually intimate relationship with her as well as enjoying our close friendship. It’s probably best t she’s in a loving marriage that is apparently celibate by choice. Or we might get in trouble.

No, you need to be stone cold sober, not had sex for a couple of days, be tied to a post and watch your wife enjoying herself fucking the brains out of another guy. Or maybe two, because: Invite them to dinner in a restaurant, and plan it out. Let the wives set the agenda at that meeting as to what will happen.

That sounds hot! My buddy asked to swap, I don't want to swap, maybe touching or a little more, but the same room is where i am comfortable. I have another couple that would love to be in the same room, I need a way to get us all together at the house.

Overheard at a party: "My dick is not only small, but it's skinny too!"

I've been on these threads for awhile now and have seen many women speak of their small breasts. I totally understand someone being self conscious about their bodies. From a man's perspective, when a woman takes her clothes off, there isn't an analysis about what things look like. I've never done it at least. I see a woman taking her clothes off in front of me and I'm ecstatic. Breast size? No clue...she's naked and naked for me! I would bet Ms couplers has perfect breasts. I say that without ever seeing them. However if I was lucky enough to see them...naked breasts are perfect. All of them!

If there are no swinger clubs near you, you might be able to find a couple will to do same room sex with you as a way to dip your toes in the pool.

For my part, I would have done everything I could think of to pleasure her. Some people would take what she said as a sign that she wanted to give herself up to the person's desires. That doesn't work for me. To me, sex is a mutual thing.

Guys !! Exactly! i say all kinds of freaky stuff during when after i cum all over her or in her, I lose that kinky desire! Maybe if it wasn't my cum and in the heat of the moment inside her I would. She asked if i would .... hmmm

Before my wife started breastfeeding, I had all kinds of ideas, about what i could do with her milk and suck them. I didn't live up to it. But I drink it a couple times in coffee and her friends served it to me in a shot glass. LOL

Great shot! I haven't done it yet, but if this were my wifes tits I would lick them clean for her!

I'm going to follow this up just in case anyone feels like they got left hanging. We did eventually get together with my friend and his wife. They are vanilla, but my wife says there has always been flirtation and chemistry, so when we got together my wife and I were committed to testing the waters with them. As is always advised, my wife took the lead. She dressed sexy and made sure there was a lot of subtle touching between her and my friend's wife. Long story short, the two ladies did make out with each other much to the delight of both husbands (and the ladies too), but nothing more... until next time!

I (Mr) have no issue licking my cum, kissing after oral or any other interaction with my cum. I tasted it long ago so I could understand what a woman was tasting when she swallowed me. I've never found it to be gross. Sometimes it is thicker than others. The taste is pretty consistent. As for others, our play sessions where the men have finished have been in their SO's mouth or vagina. Sometimes the guys please the women until they raise the white flag, and then the guys quickly finish with their SOs. We have always preferred to exhaust the wives before ourselves, with our climax being rather anti-climactic.

I haven't measured, but my guess is that I'm an extra medium. My wife brags that she can get off and has gotten off on every size dick that she has ever had. So I don't worry about it. She says that too much length can be uncomfortable in her pussy or mouth, but she's never had a problem with girth. With anal it's the opposite, too big a diameter is a problem, but length is not.

I’m not a swinger but my guess 35% of men on here lie. Why are men so vain?

That's another issue, at what age and what type of birth control for our daughters. I think that an IUD would be best. For our sons, just give them condoms.

Question for all parents of past and future teenagers: did you, will you tell your kids that if they are going to have sex, to have it at home, that you won't criticize them? If they want to, it's going to happen anyway, so why not give them a safe place with a modicum of supervision and control (e.g., you hear screams).

An interesting question. While no two couples share identical perspectives and experiences, we assert it's not just libido--it's making affirmative choices in how to continue life's journey into older age and even elderhood. 1. Gratitude matters. Being grateful for seeing each sunrise, sharing a meal, having less aches than the prior day. Older age, empty nest and so on, gives couples the time to be grateful. 2. Staying healthy together matters. Eating well, alcohol in moderation, health care, and above all doing it for each other matters. Speaking frankly about sexual issues with healthcare providers is important. 3. Accepting changing bodies and accommodating to fatigue, aches, and so on matters. Sex at 2 am is vastly overrated--8 am when rested is frankly a lot more fun. 4. Staying in touch with playmates and going on adventures--resorts, cruises, whatever--to create new connections, that also matters. 5. Making choices to stay exciting to each other--naked cocktail hour, erotic outfits, new toys, etc.--for and about each other matters. If you sense that there is a focus here on the immediate spouse/partner, you are correct. Other couples sense that enthusiasm and confidence and say 'we want that for us'.

I have physically measured three men. My husband was the smallest of the three. He is 5 3/4”. His friend who I am with often is 6 1/8”. I would say he is thicker than my husband too even though I haven’t measured that. The only other person I measured was a boyfriend I had years ago. He was 7 1/2”. He swore he was 9 inches, the reason we measured. My husband is far from being the smallest, I think he is above average. He thinks he is small but I think plenty of men think they are small. Then there are those who think they are a gift. It’s funny how some women gravitate to well hung guys at parties and others stay away.

Hi there, my hubby and I are quite new to the swinging scene, been doing it for about a month now, have had a few soft swaps and 2 full swaps. At first we thought the problem was to do with condoms, we never use them at home but it is a big must for us while playing with others, so we have been practicing at home with them and now we have kind of mastered them, however when swapping hubby struggles to keep his erection after putting one on. He has tried Viagra...didn't work. We have tried drinking, not drinking, but it always ends the same way, he can just about keep it up to penetrate the woman for a brief time but then loses it, as of yet no other woman has managed to make him cum. I always try to be reassuring for him but I am struggling now to come up with things to try or things to suggest for him to try. I feel like when he has managed to cum with another woman thing will be easier (I could be wrong) but I don't know how he can keep himself hard enough to get that far. He knows I can get him hard again quite easily and quickly so when he know he is going soft on him he comes straight to me to get him going again. Does anyone else have this problem or does anyone have any suggestions to help us get past this? We would hate for our swinging lifestyle to be cut short as other than this problem we really are enjoying it. Thanks for reading.

The problem is with condoms. I can get hard easily but if I put a condom on it becomes a struggle. Totally psychological reaction. I KNOW I am not really touching her wearing a condom and I KNOW I never will so I lose interest. With the wife I can wear them KNOWING I can take it off anytime. All about the mind, not the body.

This problem comes up all the time (actually, the problem is it doesn't come up). Then once it happens, it can get into a guys head and then it just becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Here's another thread that this is also an issue with (and there are dozens more) - New, but after three hookups with same couple, feeling unsatisfied. Most important is to note that nobody gets upset when this happens and that there are other ways to please a woman. Once he starts feeling more comfortable with what is happening it will become easier. Until then, however, this can really suck. Just let him know it all okay and show him some of these threads so he knows he isn't alone.

Thanks for the reply, I didn't bail him out with the last couple, and she did manage to get him hard again, he has no problem what so ever staying hard by oral or hand it only ever goes soft for penetration. I think he does find the women attractive but his thing is making sure we all click, have just been reading a few other posts to get some ideas and it seems like it is a very common problem. Reading some of the replies has definitely opened my eyes, and I get what you are saying so far we have never been with the same couple again maybe we should try that. I'm definitely not complaining that he doesn't cum as our session together after is mind blowing but would just really like to help him stay hard long enough to enjoy penetration with another woman.

He could try another ED med, such as Cialis or Levitra. One does have to be sexually stimulated for those meds to work, so hopefully he is playing with women who he finds attractive. Instead of you bailing him out, he should ask the other woman for more oral or manual stimulation. He should also take his time and not rush intercourse until he is erect. This is a common problem, in that I never have a problem with my wife, but sometimes I do with other women. Finally, if he is attracted to a woman, I find that I do better on subsequent sessions, as I know them better and am more confident.

Mildly trimmed is my choice. Twenty years ago, no one had their muffs shaven. I also never found a problem in getting hair while I was pleasuring my partner. When you look close at most shaven muffs you see stubble, and that can irritate both of you. A natural mature woman has a sweet pubic bush, which covers her glorious wet folds. At least IMHO.