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The idea of sloppy seconds, or cum play in general, is why we started out on this adventure. We've only had limited experiences so far, and only 1 time was that without condoms. but that was all cumming on the body. It took some convincing for my husband to accept the idea of being active with another man's cum (he's 99.5% straight), but he's now fully on board and we hope to find a couple who we can get to know well enough to go down this route. That being said, I have to say that I love the feeling of cum in my pussy, it makes me feels sexy and tingly inside. I've often masturbated with toys/role played after my husband has cum inside (because I like it, but also to get him used to the idea) and when I do, it's that feeling of sexiness that brings me to orgasm. With a lot of cum, there is a distinct lack of friction, and for me anyone, the friction is what gets me there.

Hey, this is America! Most people here don't even know what "Tetons" mean.

From my female perspective, after David or Red has had sex with another woman, I want sex with him A) to get what she had just gotten (his cum), or what's left of it, and B) to show that I can please him at least as well as she does.

For us to be intimate after sex with another man is not to reclaim her and to change his sperm with mine, but rather exactly the opposite: to enjoy and welcome his sperm inside her together and simply share the feel of the previous sex afterwards and to cool down.

Here’s the rundown: White: Novices and beginners. Purple: Voyeur and people who like to watch. Pink: Soft swap. People who like to do it with others in the room. Blue: Lowest level of full swap. Those who can play well with others. Yellow: Midlevel swap. For those who want to have fun but are still nervous. Black: Full swap. Those who say what the hell, let it all go down. Teal: Bisexual. For those that want to increase their dating chances.

For sure I want to signal my sexual preferences to random motorists. (But why not go with tradition and fasten a pink flamingo and a pineapple to the roof of your car.) Actually, when I was a college freshman (and stupidly impetuous) I was riding with two friends back from Maine to Boston at the end of a winter long weekend. On the Maine Turnpike I noted a cute young woman behind the wheel of a car in the next lane over we were slowly passing. There were two pre-adolescent girls in the front seat with her, looking too old to be her kids but too young to be her sibs. I stuck my head and shoulders out the window and motioned for her to pull over on the shoulder of the Turnpike. We exchanged phone numbers and I dated her all of spring semester until her boyfriend came back from a junior year abroad in Germany. So, yeah, maybe I could pick up a swinger couple on the New Jersey Turnpike. 😉😂

Trés bien! Bon pointe! Of course, swingers are a cut above. 😈

Bigger than most, not as big as some. Based on size alone I had more “refusals” in high school. it was pointed out to me that I had not actually responded to this thread. Fully excited/rock hard 8.75” X 6.75” (no orgasm in 48 hrs, independently measured by others using a garment/cloth measuring tape). In the lifestyle there hasn’t been anyone who declined, some that were hesitant, careful. I have never been a charging bull and more then giving so other than a handful of playmates over the years that I would be careful with (shallow) not taking full penetration (surprisingly body shape, age, children) didn’t affect this out come. all playmates (personality, humor and sense of adventure are my attractions) with normal foreplay and build up had no issue with me. Except for a few times oral was limited to hand and mouth, licking, handjob only. Maybe a dozen over the years could/would take me completely in their mouth/throat. But PIV penetration…build up, slow start once comfortable that we both fit…..could be as crazy as we wished. The Queen regularly enjoyed and played with men of all sizes, ethnicity and penis size/shape. Personality and the ability to please and cum for her was more important. Playmates ranged 3.5-4” up to 11” long 7.25” circumference. Most often a mix throughout an afternoon play session. The real take away is everyone is different and brings something fun and exciting.

I noticed in the upper right "Pierre's Hole Upper" and "Beaver." More than titties there.

My wife says that she's never had a cock that she couldn't orgasm with.

@MidwestHoneys- thanks for the breakdown. Now at least we know it's black loofahs for us!

Oh, poop. Another "this person's a swinger" thing. Black rings, flamingos, ankle bracelets, lawn gnomes, pineapples and now loofah's. Did I miss any?

For us as well, oral is more postplay than foreplay. And an essential part of round two for men.

Slightly under 6” … maybe a little over 6” if *really* aroused. That said, I’ve never given being average a second thought. I’ve always operated on the basis that by the time a woman finds out what size I am, she’s ALREADY decided to have sex with me! ;-D

For us, "reclaim sex" had nothing to do with breeding or sperm competition. We always enjoyed loving and caressing each other after we'd been with other people. It could be either of us, or both. It was a method to bring us back together, even closer, after a non-monogamous episode. Perhaps a better term - at least for what I'm talking about - is post-sharing sex.

Size matters only if it is way larger not a thing that happens often. Someone said i had a fetish looking for monster cock. We would pick up men just to have oral sex with larger ones. For length, never a problem i learned how to relax, no gag reflex. If you think about it an average penis will reach the back of your throat so most women who can take the full length overcame the gag reflex. A fat cock can be a problem if you cant relax your jaw because a mouth only can open a finite amount. My problems were thick and were brutal.

Your girl is different from you car, I hope...

We do need a better term than "cum slut."

There is no slicker lube than cum, but it doesn't feel "used", except in my mind. My favorite ss is a woman in our group who has a loose pussy. It is incredibly difficult for me to get any traction in that cunt. It teases me no end and I have to work hard to cum, but then my orgasm is unbelievably intense. A real ball acher.

That certainly charges this up in our household. Call it jealousy, reclaiming or whatever, but seeing people who you love going into the bedroom to have sex is a turn-on.

I can't, I don't know any, but for me, when it comes to size, it's diameter that I appreciate, not length. After a certain length, longer is a liability, not an asset, because it's going to bump my uterus. If he's going in my bum, however, it's the opposite. Slender is better and long is good.

Thank you for taking time to respond with such an informative and organized reply. Greatly appreciated! 🙂 Wishing you safe and enjoyable travels! We're busy trying to find a cruise that satisfies our interests and tastes, and will slot into our crazy-busy 2024 calendars. Fingers crossed!

I'm going to follow this up just in case anyone feels like they got left hanging. We did eventually get together with my friend and his wife. They are vanilla, but my wife says there has always been flirtation and chemistry, so when we got together my wife and I were committed to testing the waters with them. As is always advised, my wife took the lead. She dressed sexy and made sure there was a lot of subtle touching between her and my friend's wife. Long story short, the two ladies did make out with each other much to the delight of both husbands (and the ladies too), but nothing more... until next time!

What's wrong if the reality of MMF sex for your woman exceeds all her expectations and she is in the mood to expand her limits? When you invite another man to your bed, you must be ready that not everything will go according to your plan! He can turn out to be a more skilled lover with a bigger dick that will drive your woman crazy! And that’s OK! Of course, unless your original idea of MMF sex was to give double the pleasure to your woman and expand the horizons of both of you! You should be happy for your wife! If I were you I would not sit in the forum but use the door opened by your neighbor!😃 Instead of that, you are complaining like the neighbor wouldn’t have fucked your wife's ass with her consent, but you yours without asking you!

The only thing lost in a situation like this is a some trust. With work that can be repaired. This should not be a relationship extinction-level event, and if it is someone needs to look deep into their own insecurities and not project them on to their partner.

For me, yes.

First, you were 'buzzed'. So, not thinking clearly. Secondly, you were doing something you had never done before and hadn't discussed in depth. Lastly, when youre playing on the fringe of anything, especially sex, you can't expect not to have your nose 'bloodied' occasionally. The only thing that matters is did she have a good time, in that moment ? She did. You did. He did. Truly, are you a man or a mouse ? Squeak up.

This isn’t an answer some want to hear, we enjoy being alone in separate rooms. Nobody gets jealous, nobody has to hold back, everyone is free to be themselves. My swing partner lover does things my true lover husband doesn’t do which makes swapping so much fun. I don’t want every sex partner to do the same thing. I also don’t hide what I do with others to the man I’m with for life.

Exactly. And why would the neighbor, with supposedly no experience with the wife and the husband in the room, go straight for anal? Anal is ok, sure. Here you have a guy who, out of nowhere, was invited to this MFM and have sex with this man's wife. He has no issues (e.g. failure to rise) and with a willing vagina in front of him, goes for anal?? Only two possibilities here... (1) the story isn't real or (2) the wife had prior discussion and prior interactions with the neighbor to where he had already been in the vagina and wanted something different.

How on earth does someone who has never done anal, isn’t physical prepared or mentally prepared just take it in the ass in multiple positions without having their ass completely destroyed? Not to mention the mess it would be without being prepared a head of time! I guess if it was just that easy for your wife to take it in the bum and you saw she was why didn’t you just take your turn as well?

Yes, it sounds like the neighbor knew the territory.

You can have anal with your wife anytime you want. You really didn’t lose anything.

Going over the ground rules with everyone involved is crucial and if you don't go over the rules this is what will happen. One problem I first saw was that you admitted that both of you were half buzzed, bad idea. Next, are you sure she was an anal virgin, maybe she has done it before? Anyway it happened, now what to do about it. I think both should stop until you both get on the same page with your rules. This is not uncommon, I have really seen problems about going bareback or ejaculating inside her. Having rules and sticking to them is important and later down the road you may adjust your rules. Talk this out and don't let this get between you, but don't swap until your rules are agreed upon by both!

Swinging is a continuos adventure of trying new things. I remember the first time that we did seconds, its terrific. Going Inside my wifes pussy when she's just been filled with a load from her lover's 8 inch cock is fantastic. It's still number one in my opinion. Oral is great. I've no desire to eat cum, not even my own. Our swinger friends use flavored condoms for oral, that's not a bad idea. It's said it's not a creampie unless you eat it. I must be on a diet.

I don't have any particular desire to go down on a woman after another man has cum in her (not repulsed, just not my thing). But, to have sex with her after another man cums in her? Oh hell yes! LOVE that! There is something raw and inherently sexy about that.

I'm glad with time you've processed this and things are back on more positive grounds. This does not sound like anything I would take well and could ruin the dynamics of our relationship. While I'm a well endowed guy, there is always someone bigger and I fully enjoy watching my wife stretched on the occasion we've been with one. What I would not fully enjoy was my wife stating her preference for the other guy, stating she does not want me and physically pushing me away from what was supposed to be a shared experience. We also devised a rule (came up last year when we got an airbnb with a total of 13 swingers for a little vacay) that once one of us goes to bed for the night, the play for the other stops. Catching her sucking and fucking the guy she stated she (*preferred* to me while they think I'm passed out sounds a lot more like cheating than swinging... To each his own.

No matter how spent I am from fucking all evening, when my wife is carrying someone else creampie, the second wind kicks in. I haven't tasted one yet (the desire is there but I haven't wanted to weird out the depositor), but the desire to insert myself into her mess is strong.

Imagine if this story was in reverse, a man takes his wife who is barely on board to a group of swingers then he pairs off with one of the girls and leaves his wife to fend for herself. He has a great time and she’s struggling with watching her husband have sex with another woman. Now he wants to quickly do it again and she’s freaked out and not ready…………..would you all tell her to take a pill or get some lube? Please people For swinging to work both people have to be looking out for the other….especially their first time.

We had many times where one of us had a great experience and the other one had a bad experience. It’s part of swinging. You have to chalk it up to experience. You’ll appreciate the good partners better.

One more thing, as I said in the original post that my wife's vagina has a dryness problem. I used mineral oil on the condom, which probably caused it to fail. And I think one of the biggest reasons she likes men's cum inside her, is that it lubes her up for more sex.

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I think maybe you left out a couple of options….like “I” decided to cheat on my husband, going behind his back and just chalk it up to heat of the moment because, really I’m just weak and only care about myself. Your reasoning that he was more adept is beyond ridiculous. You turned your spouse down and then gave it freely to another guy……nothing more, nothing less. swinging involves honesty……cheating doesn’t….simple I would have served you divorce papers the following day.

Let me get this straight? Your wife says no to you having sex in a way you’ve been asking for, then without any explanation does it twice in front of you with another man…….and your response is You really didn’t lose anything????? Some people should just remain silent.

I’m sure I’m going to get some slack for my opinion, if my wife let another man do something that I’ve always wanted to do, especially without discussing with me first……. I would have stopped the playing instantly, got dressed and started looking for a good divorce lawyer. The sheer amount of disrespect it took on her part would’ve been all ever needed to see. I’m not convinced this story is true. For her to tell you no, then doing it with someone else right in front of you………….not really sure I’m buying this.