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In a Catholic 8th grade, we saw a film strip (who remembers those?) called "Take the High Road". All procreation focused. It told us what everything was and what it did but did not say where anything was. I spent the next few years looking for things.

We rent a room with two king beds in a hotel that has a separate entrance for each room from the parking area, like many Red Roof Inns. We usually meet with our swing friends at a nearby restaurant for lunch or dinner and all get to know each other. The invitees for each party usually consist of two other couples and three single guys. After about an hour at the restaurant we all go the hotel room. After we all are in the room, the gals get undressed and on the beds. The guys first job is to give all the gals at least one orgasm from oral. Then, the guys do whatever the gals want. Usually the gals like to fuck until the guys cannot get it up any more. That is about 4 or 5 times as most guys cannot fuck and cum more than twice in a session. After about three or four hours of fucking everyone is sated, and we all go home. We enjoy it and have a party about every two weeks. Between parties we just love to remember the best parts and fuck some more.

Perfectly said in two sentences. At a very instinctual level, two men willing to do what it takes to try and make a child with me. It was overwhelming powerful for me when Clair became accidentally pregnant and I wanted to do so as well. I went off bc immediately and went at it with David and Red until I got pregnant too, not caring which man got the job done.

Seems like no one on this board or their kids wear a swim suit in the pool 😛

There's something to say about birds who kick the chicks out of the nest. If you don't try to get the "young adult kiddos living in our home" out, they might never leave. It's time to fly, little birdies... When we started our journey, Ms. Gold had already had bad experiences with trying to turn friends into swingers, so we decided to try and turn swingers into friends...and that worked really well. Now there's no problem with having our swinger friends over since they are also just our friends. Sometimes we play at home, sometimes we go out and do something together, sometimes we go out and play...club, their house, hotel, sometimes we just get together and enjoy each others company. All of our birds have been removed from the nest, and while they may drop by every now and then, having a gated property makes things that much more 'private'. Of course, I'll never forget the time we were talking with her daughter about having a pool party and her daughter said that she wasn't sure where her bathing suits were since when she used their pool, she didn't wear a bathing suit. My answer was '...do you think we wear one as well?'. She always calls before coming over now, especially in the summer when we might be swimming...

For me being taken by a second man right after the first is mostly psychologically fulfilling and satisfying, that he wants me and is willing to take me that way. Usually, hubby goes second. The feel is nice too, all that squishing around, especially after the second load. I like to keep as much of it in me as possible.

We agree. While contrary to conventional wisdom, our LS friends join family/friends events with sufficient regularity that LS friends ask after family and vice versa. We do prep our LS friends with one stock answer to the occasional query, "How do you know {Mr/Mrs Fundamental Law}?" Stock answer, "we met through friends of friends some time ago". That is as complicated as it gets.

It's also for pleasure, fun, exercise, etc. 😀

sorry for the long read. I have a little different take…..or two cents of advice. It is the same we’ve shared with couples and singles for the past two plus decades. first, admittedly open, honest…..revealing discussion between two people in a relationship….long or short term is at best challenging, fearful and with many stumbling blocks and pitfalls. Even the best of relationships has a great amount of difficulty “baring their soul” conversation with their SO/lover/best friend/soulmate. Especially when feelings, desires, wants, needs are involved. Ten times that when it involves intimacy….sex…..and the fear of hurting that special person. We have found a gradual step by step elevation of conversation….direct….not sugar coated….not camouflaged with half hearted “fishing” statements/questions and certainly never by demands or statements of “or else”, “got to have” or “I deserve”. After all you are a couple, a team….the two of you against the world. This should be an open conversation, not limited by time, casual about the both of you. An extra, something exciting/pleasurable for you both….with equal interest and a casual easy simple first step. Do not cloud it with Multiple “firsts” or directly jumping in with both feet into the deep end. The Open Couple/Lifestyle/Ethical Non Monogamy is very broad. It covers experiences….shared experiences….that could fill the Grand Canyon. It does not define you it is just another branch of your life you share together. My best image is think of it as a great tree. A mighty Oak, Maple or Beech Tree. A strong thick trunk with many deep roots, this is your relationship base. From this to many branch’s stretching in every direction with many more branches that finger out from that. Each with smaller branches that finger out even further, always growing. All tipped with clusters of leave for each life experience with new buds renewing those experiences. You grow and share together, as one, with many experiences in all aspects of your life together. Alternate lifestyle is all inclusive. There are so many possibilities. From art, music, travel, food etc etc. Then there is also more intimate discoveries, personal, open and shared. From adult social activities (clothed/non sexual, think dirty dancing/self expression), nudism, social mingling, lifestyle/ENM social but only the two of you (enjoying the social energy but only as a couple, just you two), same room play/sex between you two but in a room with other couples (voyeur) watching/being watched, playful touching with others, couples soft swap/soft swing (oral/manual only), from here the possibilities are endless only limited by your imagination and mutual agreement only limitations are the limits you both agree together. You move forward as a couple, open conversation both agreeable before participation. Like. New born you learn to move (communicate with each other), crawl, walk, run and race. You both decide next steps/experiences together equally. I would advise the communication/comfort level for you both, small steps, small experiences shared together. Then openly talk after for any advancement further. Try going to a house party/club/event as a couple for the social experience, talk openly with others. Only play is between the two of you to start….baby steps. In short do not involve yourselves in activities that if uncomfortable you can’t walk away from intact with your relationship between you both. There are plenty of us to offer advice etc on this site, do only what the two of you are comfortable with as yourself, as a couple and your relationship.