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Some instruments are longer than others. 😆

So did you and your husband have sex on the upper level or did you watch others ? What was your impression of the upper level and did many participate?

Some are straight like an oboe, some curved like a bassoon.

While I find the "inaugural ball" with novel partners exciting at one level, for me the other side of the coin is that subsequent encounters will likely be even better as we learn each other’s bodies and responses.

There have been times when I've heard my wife moaning with other men and thought "who is making that noise?" Just to turn around and see it's my own wife 😄

Lubricants are essential for even ordinary play among us seniors. While each person/couple will have a personal preference, some observations have stood the test of (our) time. 1. Sex is messy. Sex with lubes is extra messy. The best way to throw caution to the wind is to have a few “sex blankets” around the house (and a travel size one in the “go bag”). We really like the Liberator brand Fascinator Throws. After play, throw it in the wash. Rinse and repeat….!!!! 2. Lubes have a number of bases. Silicone based lubes. Natural oil based lubes(coconut oil for example). Water and glycerin based lubes. We have tried variants of all of them. We think water and glycerin are the best. They cause the least amount of irritation to tender vaginal tissues after play, which means a happier playmate. You will use more of it than you will of a silicone based lube. It’s a better way to go. 3. skip the flavorings and scents. Pussy should not taste like strawberries or cookies and cream or Bailey’s. Pussy should taste like pussy. The additives are going to cause someone a problem. 4. When you open the bottle, use that sharpie to put a date on it. Buy sizes that will last you a couple or three months. Then toss the old stuff and start over. 5. Keep an inventory of a couple of small bottles at home, one unopened in the “go bag”, in its own zip loc baggie. Rotate your stock. 6. If your toys are dishwasher safe, put them in the top rack. It gets the lube off. 7. If you have a Hitachi magic wand or similar non immersible toy, keep a small bottle of mild, no-additive dish detergent in the cabinet below the bathroom sink and a small stack of old clean washcloths. Water plus a little dish detergent in the sink, use the washcloth to clean the toys, then some clear water on the washcloth to get the soap off the toys. Throw the washcloths in with the sex blankets. 8. Don’t spill the lube. If you do, it’s a major headache cleaning up, especially if silicone based. Get a big enough sex blanket. If you spill there, who cares? Hope this is useful. 9. PS. Ladies, next time you are inclined to give a guy a hand job (like maybe tomorrow morning when he wakes up hard?) get the lube out and use a generous amount.

Agreed. Not only is each partner different, but also is each pairing. It struck me the first time I saw David with another woman, it was almost disturbing that she had him in another state. As to sounds, the big difference is how much more vocal women are than men, both loudness and variety of songs that are sung.

So incest is definitely a real thing, when I was just out of High school I worked at a DejaVu Showgirls Gentlemans Club in Flint Michigan, I was a dancer there. Guys would come in and offer us money to work parties and events, and they often paid well. One night a guy invited my friend to a party and asked her to bring her friends. I was always up for extra money so I tagged along, When we got there her brother was there. I have known this girl for a long time and I knew her brother. Now when you invite a stripper to a party and pay her to be there you are definitely expecting them to get naked and put on a show, if you invite ten and pay well its safe to say they expect there is gonna be some fucking. Seeing her brother I grabbed my friend and gave her a heads up. She said no worries he sees me naked all the time. I was not expecting that answer, 3 minutes later she was naked as a jay bird and three feet away from him. She even fucked the guy next to him. He watched everything she did. It was weird but if I hadn't known him no one would have known.

I was 23, and working in a training program. I met a ballet dancer who said she was 21 and going to school plus dancing. She took me home, and played Monopoly with her Dad and Sister. After they went to bed, I went down on her, and she fucked me in the living room, with the family one story above. Not unusual. Well, she was actually 15! She lied about her age. I wonder what the Dad would have said if he had come downstairs. Beautiful young women. Red Hair, Flawless Complexion. Great Professional Dancer, and eventually Model. Much later we tried the DP with two cocks in Vagina. Really good. Feels incredible. Did not know two would fit til then.

I (husband) gave head to a guy. My wife's bro-in-law, actually. Never ever considered myself remotely bi-curious, and only did it once, but I gotta admit that I did it. It's a long story... My wife and I rented a houseboat for a week with her sister (7 years younger) and her husband. We claimed at the time we did it to "share the cost," but I think we all secretly knew what was going to happen if the four of us spent a week alone in nothing but swimsuits, or less. I had personally fantasized for years about fucking my sister-in-law (sexy bod and a huge flirt), and had shared those fantasizes with my wife. Well, the flirting and flashing started the first day, which led to all of us swimming nude by the second day, to same room sex ("same deck sex"?) on the third, to my getting some incomplete oral action from my sis-in-law that evening. By noon on the fourth day, I finally got my wish and fucked my sis-in-law, outside, on the deck the houseboat while her husband and my wife looked on (okay, they only watched for a moment or two, then got busy themselves, but we started first!). Later that afternoon, while I'm tonguing my wife, she and her sister (who'd both eaten their share of pussy over the years) start comparing notes about how they like to have their pussies licked, and wondering if girls could do it better than guys, because they'd been on the receiving end. I stated that I thought that I probably could give a guy a pretty respectable BJ. The girls agreed that, if not for the extreme ickiness of the whole incest thing, they would love to give each other a test drive. By this point I think we were all pretty shocked at ourselves. It was pretty obvious that the gloves were off and there was no "keeping up appearances." We could all handle just about anything we wanted to do and nobody was going to freak. My wife observed that her brother-in-law and I were not related, and to my disbelief, he agreed to do me if I did him first. I was pretty sure he wouldn't keep his end of the deal, but I went down on her BIL. I managed to suck him off fairly readily, and while I didn't swallow, I did let him cum in my mouth. Surprisingly, he was more than happy to reciprocate, and licked and sucked for a while. When I hadn't cum and it was obvious that he had put in more time than I had on him, I stopped him and jacked myself off the rest of the way. I've never told that story to anybody, although I am sure my sister-in-law has. Frankly, I am amazed how very little effect it had on anything. We still see the two of them fairly regularly, and other than a few inside jokes, it doesn't come up. We talk more about me nailing her than him. I can't say that I'm driven to do it again, but I thought it was worthwhile to experience, just to say that I know what its like.

My girlfriend and I have great sex. Sandy her 29 year old daughter knows and approves. She is very sexy and sensual. While growing up she slept with her mother and nudity was normal. Recently, she walked in on us. Her mom then said that since she was here she should help by taking some pictures and a short video. After she finnished, Sandy then said can I join you? Her mom said we will think about it and talk with you later. Should we allow her to join?

Jesus christ! There are so many prudish people here, which surprises me given the nature of this forum. The amount of groupthink on this forum is appalling, and it shows in threads like this one. So many people here are so quick to say how wrong/sick/whatever something is. Alot of you people don't seem to understand that you are not in the majority as far as you "lifestyle" goes. Most people would think you are sick or wrong. Who cares if the daughter wants to join in? I think things like that are natural, and perfectly okay. Just because she wants to doesn't make her "messed up". By the various gods, swingers are nothing but a bunch of elitist, stuck up assholes. I think the problem with the majority of you is that you'd LIKE to do something like the original poster, but you feel guilty about it because society says that it's wrong, so you draw the line somewhere. Fuck society. Society is screwed up. Heavens forbid you offend anyone, or go against society's unwritten laws. Why don't the lot of you get your heads out of your asses? Think logically about something for once. Just because society says something is wrong, doesn't make it wrong. If the majority of society walked off a cliff, would you? I hate sheeple.

Perhaps I'm losing something in the translation here, as I realize english is not your primary language. But, the OP was not imposing his opinion on anyone...rather, just giving it. He posted his original question and got railed by most of the responses (again, I couldn't care less what consenting adults do behind closed doors). And then you say he is interfering with your life. I guess I just don't get it As far as laws go...there are plenty of sodomy laws still on the books here in the U.S., that make it illegal between consenting adults to engage in oral or anal sex. Does that make it wrong, just because we had puritan forefathers who thought they knew what was best for all of us? Brett

Intuition, per usual, has it pegged. The thing is, when you ask point-blank what we think, we're gonna give it to you. Honesty is usually never in short supply here. You're going to do what you want, and that's the way the world turns, but if one does not want dissenting opinions, don't post and ask for it. It seems as though Magnavox wanted to know what we thought, so we told him. All of our lives go on. I don't see any wrongs committed here so far. Next?

Readers need to know some background. Mother and daughter slept together while daughter was growing up. But, they have had no sex together. Mother taught daughter that sex is good and how to masturbate. What we finally did. Mother and daughter and I played. There was no sex between mother and daughter. Mother went wild watching daughter and me. Mother's fantasy was to see me with another woman, and daughter was acceptable after some serious talking. Mother came several times watching. She wanted daughter who had a bad marriage before the divorce to experience the great sex that she and I have. Daughter was thrilled to be pleased the way her mother was when we have sex. Daughter has new boyfriend who has experience in the lifestyle. So, last night we all went out and had a great time and came home to play. We swapped several times and all had a great time. We talked before and after and all said we are mature adults who want each to be satisfied. We will swing again but only when all are present. Daughter likes boyfriend and mother likes me There has been no drama, only ectasy and excitement that comes with the lifestyle. Now tell me what you think! Thanks, mag

Well, I for one beg to differ from those who have previously posted. I have enjoyed a mother daughter session and spent quite a lot of time with two sisters. You are describing an adult situation. As adults, only those involved know what is comfortable for them. I am surprised that the daughter was not asked to join in other than to handle a camera. To THAT I say, shame on you. It is rude to allow a hungry person to watch a feast but yet never invite them to sit at the table....really, bad manners. I have found that those whom partake in incestuous sexual relations have a differing view upon those relations than do the outsiders looking in. So, in essence, you are asking outsiders to look in upon you and judge your actions. Having experienced this type of sexual enjoyment, I will say, 1) she was raised to ask first before joining in 2) she should have been included as soon as she asked 3) your reaction was probably not what they wanted and thus the "talk" 4) if ever in that situation remember, you are only an "interloper" and their relationship would never hinge upon your decision of this 5) welcome her with loving arms and a hard cock if you are ever lucky enough to be asked to pleasure them both again.

She is over 21. I say yes as long as you have discussed possible problems of jealousy between mom and daughter, in which case it could mess up your relationship with mom.

gee mate, it's not up to you. It is really between mother and daughter what they get up to. Your only choice is "do you want to have a physical relationship with your girlfriend's daughter." I'm guesing the answer is yes. I would swing the answer back to mother's court and tell her it is up to her and her daughter to decide. Then all three of you get together and discuss the boundaries between you. Swinging only works when there is open honest communication between all parties involved.

I can't believe I forgot about this one. When I was 17, I had sex with the dad of one of my classmates. He was like 45 at the time, very good looking and had a nice body. We did it at his house in his bedroom while his family was away from the weekend.