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On vacations without kids to adult play destinations... Kids may not know where you are going and what you are doing, but they sense the outcome. You return happy and smiling, and they notice. A (very) long time ago, our then-pre-teen-daughter was not only testing her boundaries but also our limits. This led to a somewhat heated exchange that concluded with "we love you, but these are non-negotiables...". She responded with, "You two were a lot more fun when you got back from vacation a couple of months ago." Yes, they notice. The kids are responding to a sense of security that comes with happiness. Daughter is now solidly middle-aged and married. Her husband's parents are generally an unhappy pair. She remarks that among her circle of friends and acquaintances, her parents are unique in that they are (a) still married (b) to each other (c) in love and (d) having lots of fun. That makes both of them feel secure about their possible futures. Those leave-the-kids-with-the grandparents-vacations are investments in your future...and in theirs. Take them, have lots of adult fun, make the memories. The kids will notice that you are happy. And that makes their lives much easier.

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First time, only time. Crazy thoughts, worried someone home will find out. Partially undressed myself then it all came off. Don’t know where I looked, most likely penis. I saw the other woman naked, didn’t look at my husband. I don’t think I positively remember. I know he touch my breasts first, I closed my eyes. I try to remember but things are blurred, I do know he kissed between my legs first. I know I wondered what was different about his penis, uncircumcised. First sex feeling, I wanted it.

This just a hint from , just one, grandparent. WE consider our time watching the kids so that they can have some fun a very worthwhile thing. My wife gets a bang out of the fact that our daughter and her husband still spontaneously hold hands at the odd moments. Seeing our children behaving like they are in love after years and many of their own children make us both happy. It might not be all that difficult to get redo's from your folks. By the way we and they are under know illusions as to what causes the goofy grins after a time alone. I think that they now understand our goofy grins also.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I believe it's more nuanced than that. For me, and many other men, it's not about competition - it's about having fun. For us, once we decided what we wanted, it wasn't 'taboo' anymore. We often played with couples, but there were many times when we made a choice to play with a single male, either late at night after a swinging experience at a club, or just for a night's pleasure. My wife (like, I believe, a lot of women,) had greater stamina than me, she could easily have multiple men in one night. So we sought out men for the simple pleasure it brought to her. And the fact that she was being pleasured brought me pleasure. I'm not saying there wasn't a part of me that enjoyed the sights, sounds and smells of her getting laid, but there wasn't a 'cuckold' portion to it for us. I had no desire to be humiliated, nor did she want to humiliate me. It was simply for the fun of it. So, if you believe that I'm a guy who simply 'won't admit it', well, that's on you.

Half MT - I recommend you guys consider going to Hedonism 2 in Negril Jamaica. My wife and I have been there 27 times. Jamaica is a beautiful country with great people. Do not be influenced by the U.S. Dept. of State warnings about travel to Jamaica. Yes, there are definitely places that you should not go, the same as dangerous places in many U.S. cities or even in the little town where I live. We generally stay at the resort the entire time, but go can go on excursions arranged by the hotel. At the resort, there are lots of people and 24/7 security. Hedonism is a resort that includes a clothing-optional beach and a nude beach, and it is lifestyle friendly. Many people go there who are nudists but not swingers. Many people who go there are in the lifestyle. We have met so many awesome people there from all over the world and from all walks of life, and have remained friends with lots of them over many years. Hedo is all-inclusive, so while it is expensive, everything is included, food entertainment, water sports, alcohol, etc., and there is no tipping. You only need to spend additional money for spa treatments and massages, something you want to buy from the gift shop, or that special bottle of wine. There is also Hedo Weedo, a dispensary on site. There is lots of info online about it, and a Facebook group "Our favorite Jamaican vacation place" where you can ask questions of the Hedo veterans. There are lots of opportunities to participate in the lifestyle if you want, or if not, just say no thanks. Either way, you will meet incredible people and enjoy a beautiful resort where there is no judgment, and probably have the best vacation of your life. The food is good, with a huge buffet and several restaurants, excellent entertainment, lots of activities. You can sit on the beach and read a book or party like a rock star. Good luck.