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I'd do it after she swallowed. Had an ex who surprised me with a mouthful of my own cum a full minute after I unloaded in her mouth. right after she got off her knees she kissed her way up my nipples then snowballed me before I knew what was happening!

It’s primal. Caveman days everybody took a turn. If guy number one kept going no one else could get in. She “wanted” as much variety as possible to increase her chances of pregnancy.

I finally have something unexpected and thrilling to share, and it's nothing short of spectacular. One of our gay friend invited me and Mr. A out last month during gay pride weekend. We had dinner and drinks with a large group of people and we happened to sit next to a gay couple visiting from Europe...friends of friends...and I'm not revealing the country for reasons that will become clear. They're both super handsome, although I'm not a fan of orange pants for guys. Anyhow, we chatted and they revealed that one of them was married to a woman over 10 years ago and the other one had girlfriends throughout high school and college. They explained that sexuality was much more open in their country and many of their friends also experimented with both sexes in their teens and 20s. I asked a ton of questions, and it was only fair that we told them about us a bit. So we said we are swingers, both of us are bisexual in swinging situations, and we also like cuckold and BDSM play. Three hours of sex talk later, the gay boys asked if we wanted to go back to their hotel room to explore. They were just so nice, said all the right things, so we obliged. To the juicy details! There were many firsts for both me and Mr. A that night, but three things stood out. First is that I had a DP orgasm for the first time...ever. The boys introduced me to a new position for DP where I laid on my side, with one of them behind me entering my ass and the other one in front of me. Mr. A was holding one of my leg up at first. With this position, they were both able to get really deep inside me, and the most amazing thing was that they were perfectly in sync. One cock rams deep in my ass while the other cock pulls out of my pussy. Slow or fast, it's always in sync. Mr. A got the birds eye view and he said it looked like a piston. I don't know what a piston is but I do know multiple orgasms. The second discovery is purely mental and emotional. Close to the end, Mr. A and I were both in doggy position while the two of them were fucking us in the ass. Mr. A and I were facing each other and we watched each other got rammed up the butt. I felt this total erotic connection with Mr. A. At one point Mr. A grabbed my hand, and looking into Mr. A's eyes while two big cocks tearing up our assholes, I had never felt hornier and more turned on. It's part cuckold, part emotional connection, part physical sensation, with the whole being I had never felt my brain so sexually charged, and the strange thing is that I knew Mr. A was feeling the same way. After I took two big loads down my throat from the gay couple, it's Mr. A's turn but one of the boys said "allow me." So I watched him grabbed some massage oil and then gave a thorough handjob to Mr. A. It wasn't just up and down but various techniques (he later told me it's a tantric practice called lingam massage). He edged Mr. A with the handjob for over an hour, and then it happened. I saw Mr. A winding up for an orgasm from the tightening of his stomach and pelvic muscles but I've never seen one that took so long. It was building up and building up, and then he must have shot his cum 3 feet into the air. Our friend kept up the handjob as Mr. A ejaculated over and over, withering his whole body. Mr. A told him t stop because his cock was getting sensitive, but no stoppage here. His orgasm lasted so long that at the end he was having orgasmic spasms but no cum appeared. I have never seen that. He said it was the most intense orgasm he ever had, which is saying a lot considering how long we've been in the lifestyle. It was an amazing night. The problem now is how can we do it again since they went back home. We will just have to take a european vacation soon...real soon.

Hello good people of SwingersBoard, I just wanted to check in with everyone before the summer heats up. A bunch of my friends just returned from a camping event and everyone was complaining about how hot it was. People go camping in June...you would think the one thing that they would be prepared for would be the heat. Not passing judgement..IJS. Be careful out there in these streets. I know Im early but I would like to wish all of you a Happy 4th of July!

Back in the nineties, when married to the sequel, We took out an ad in "Alabama Tennessee Georgia Swingers" mag. Black and white cropped pics included. Got a lot of responses. met only 2 over the years. Fast forward 10 years.....at a house party as a single male. Host pulls out a mag he recently picked up at a gas station. There is our ad from 10 years earlier, pics and all. And people say the internet is forever.......

I keep my bush trimmed, but fairly full, because my lovers know when and how to grab a handful and pull it just right. The hair on my labia is trimmed much closer for other reasons. Melon. I'll spank. Mind if I use a paddle? I will make you scream and beg to stop. Everything else, men scream and beg me not to stop.

Welcome Lifeisnow! You're definitely in the right place. This is a wonderfully supportive forum. Let's get the FMF covered first. I don't mean to dissuade you, but finding another woman who is interested in bi (or, really, not) is very difficult. Around here, we call such women "unicorns"; fabled to exist, but no one has ever actually seen one. Ok, that's not entirely true. Some couples do find single women that want to play with another couple. But, it is rare. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't try for it, but don't get frustrated if it doesn't happen. Single men on the other hand are very, very easy to find. The trick is to find nice single men. That's not as rare as the unicorn, but you have to do some searching. Ok so your wife doesn't want to do it again. Forgive me, but I want to be clear; she doesn't want to do something with another man involved? Going with the flimsiest of knowledge about your relationship and her in particular (going of course off of only what you've posted), it sounds to me like your wife very much enjoys the idea of having another man, and is maybe so interested that it scares her a bit. It can be a bit terrifying; what if she likes it "too much"? What does "too much" mean? Does it supplant the sex you two have? Does it erode it? Does it make it seem less hot, less satisfying? These are unknowns that are hard to understand. They are emotional reactions, and not logical ones. My wife has a sexual tiger inside herself that was awakened by swinging. Your wife may be a bit fearful of just what, exactly, is inside her that she has yet to explore. Your wife could also have objections based on societal/moral/religious standards, and feel like she's breaking something while doing this. The pathway through this is communication. Having deeply open communication can be hard. Many couples never get there. Being open means being able to talk about your innermost thoughts and feelings. Being receptive to each other in listening is critical; no judgment, no sarcasm, no teasing; just frank, open honesty. Listening can be a difficult skill to learn. Getting to this level of communication will bring the two of you ever more intimate to each other. Ask about fantasies, whether either of you feels they are wrong to fulfill or not. Ask about unusual ideas in each other's heads. Ask what you think about when masturbating. There's lots of ways to help encourage such discussion. Doing it in the bedroom is fine, but also doing it outside the bedroom is good too. My wife and I spent many months talking about such things and also about swinging before we took our first dip in the pool. It made a big difference. Another idea; this sub-forum on first swinging experiences has a vast history of things couples did when they were first starting out. There's also a sub-forum called "Swinging Situational HELP!" It can be interesting to read some of the first posts in the threads of these forum and then discuss between you and your wife. What was interesting about it? What about it would be challenging? How would you handle it? Did you enjoy the idea of it and could you imagine yourself doing it? These threads can be excellent conversation starters. Once you have a better understanding of what each of you want, dream, and desire, you will feel more confident and secure in moving ahead. You noted about having a one off with a stranger, and that would limit risks. This is very true. There are couples who have a rule of playing with someone only once, and never again. That works for them, and might work well for you. If that becomes a rule, it might change for you. My wife and I realized over time that finding good play partners was in many ways no different than 'vanilla' dating. You're going to find some duds, some people whom you don't have a lot of fun with, etc. We felt that since it was so hit and miss, that it would be better to maintain relationships with the ones that were fun. But, I wouldn't advise trying that until you're more comfortable. How to start is really up to you, and what you want to do. There's plenty of ways to start. Ok, finding the FFM might be hard. But, you can help her explore her interest in other men. One idea; in your day to day lives as you're out doing errands or whatever, have her pick out men she finds attractive, and you do likewise. It can be a bit of a fun exercise and helps internally open the door that it's ok to imagine being with someone else. You could go to swinger meet-and-greets where there's no play, just meeting up with other swingers. That can help make swinging seem less intimidating, as you begin understanding that swingers are really just like everyone else. There's no swinger 'type'. There's also hotel takeovers that can be fun, even if you don't play. You could also go to a swinger club and be spectators, or maybe play with each other only (whether other people can see you or not). Another idea; go to a dance club of some kind and dance with other people. Get physically close with them, and see how each of you feel. Doing an online chat is very different than in person. There are many ways to get closer to swinging without actually swinging, and help test the waters and begin to wrap your brains around the idea of being non-monogamous. What rules you set are also very much up to you, and highly dependent on where your comfort levels are. What are you not comfortable with each other doing to something else? What feels like too far, or too much? I wouldn't try to come up with too many rules; try to focus on only those things that you think will upset either of you. Having too many rules can make having sex with others feel almost rigid. My wife and I had a number of rules when we began; no kissing, no solo play, no anal, always use condoms, etc. Over time all the rules but one fell away. The last one to fall away was always using condoms. Not using condoms now is allowed if it's a regular, long term play partner who has been tested for STDs. So, in a sense, I guess you can say that's still a rule but has conditions. The one big one that has never fallen away and never will is the one we call the "golden parachute". If for any reason either of us does not feel comfortable and wants to exit the situation, they voice it and we both get dressed and leave. No discussion, no checking to make sure, etc. Just leave. We will talk about it after we leave. We've never invoked that rule, but it's nice to know it's there. Planning it in advance; seems odd to plan sex, doesn't it? I wouldn't plan to have sex per se. Plan and expect to have fun, and have no other expectations. It would be good to establish what the limits are for a particular evening; touching and kissing ok, but no further? Anything ok but actual sex? Sex with another person is ok? One thing to be cautious of; changing limits or rules while in the heat of the moment (or approaching it). There will always be another day. Going too far, too fast can be a recipe for disaster. It sounds like both you and your wife enjoy the idea of the other having sex with another person. It can be intensely erotic. When we got into swinging, I had no idea how much I'd enjoy watching my wife have sex with another man. It's absolutely incredible. I love watching, hearing, and helping her have a great time. It sounds like the two of you might be very much the same. This is a good sign for the two of you getting into swinging. A few other bits of advice. However you proceed with this, move at the speed of the person going the slowest, whether it's you or your wife. That applies in general to all of it, but also to specific things. For example, my wife wasn't comfortable with the idea of me having sex with other women at first. We had lots of MFMs before she started feeling more comfortable with the idea. So in one aspect, we moved ahead quite a bit. In another, we moved more slowly. That's ok. Always make sure that you (as in both of you) are in charge of birth control. Those whom you play with may be in charge too, but don't leave birth control solely up to the people you're playing with. Focus on each other. It may seem paradoxical, but swinging isn't about other people, but more about the two of you helping each other achieve more self actualization. Another crucial bit of advice; keep posting here and asking questions :) We're happy to answer, and will tell you if we think you're making a mistake. That's one of the things I really love about this forum. Oof, looking back over this it appears I've written a book. Setting my proverbial pen down for the moment ... :)