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If I need a label I am becoming sexual. A Lesbian is both physically and romantically attracted to other women, I am much more attracted to men and enjoyed the additional fun with a woman. I was first curious of having sex with a new man which led to going further with a woman for the first time. Our second was primarily for exploring sex with another man, his girlfriend was just part of the fun. Timmy and I thought she was attractive, neither of us were romantically attracted to her. I have no regrets having sex with the women, both were fun and rewarding. Both and now my third female were not my primary attraction, they were more a dessert. I think too many labels are put on people which causes decisiveness.

Do be aware that tests results can be faked pretty easily. We had one guy that we asked for results, and he gave us a piece of paper where there were three misspellings on the form. We passed on that one.

That's what we rely on now. They guys can usually be sucked back to an erection, although sometimes after a while in the vagina it goes back down. I actually like taking a sloppy flaccid dick into my mouth, tasting her, and working magic on him.

We played the Bar Pickup many times with both success and failure. Our first was after reading a thread here we figured it could be fun to try. It had to be 10 years ago we went to a hotel bar in Princeton where I struck up a conversation with a businessman, Michael next to me. It was fun to tease even if nothing happened. We tried another guy at the bar who wanted to pay me but backed out when I said my husband wanted to watch. Our first success was a salesman at a bar who was training another young salesman. It was 10 years ago but I remember they had just met for the training. I had to convince them my husband was just going to watch. Most likely it was because there were two of them and they were young they brought me to a room. What was fun was getting two virile guys naked, once they were things went great. That was a scenario we repeated many times with varied results.

We enjoy this game 😃 Weirdest time was when we played it in a bar in Santa Fe NM. A guy with a big cowboy hat approached my wife. It seemed to be going well until she waved me over to introduce me. I could see by his face it wasn't going to go well. He loudly berated us both as "sick" and stormed out. You could hear a pin drop and all eyes were on us lol

People said the same about swinging. Now it's a social trend.

I have Cialis, which I take when I know that I will want or need to perform multiple times in a single session, which is usually twice on weekends. It lasts all weekend, three days actually, which is good. If I play during the week, my wife is either fucking someone else too or is patient enough to wait and work on getting me up a second time orally. The challenging situation is that my wife is 25 years younger than me and oversexed for someone her age anyway, so she needs more than I can give, especially if I'm fucking other women too. It's all good, that's what got us into swinging.

My younger brothers, not Rhodes scholars, used to “doctor” their report cards before they showed them to our parents. Not hard to make a D look like a B.

I have had 3 women voluntarily disclosed they had herpes , but have had many with no paperwork. The ones with no test results were the ones that got mad.

In a swing club/houseparty setting, it's normal to briefly discuss "the rules" before engaging. If the couple(s) you're with don't like your terms they are free to leave - as are you if you don't like theirs. It's rare, but you may encounter couples who absolutely refuse to use prophylaxis. In a more closed setting, you usually arrange a no-sex meet up at a bar or coffee shop, and specifically state you wish to review each other's std paperwork. If their paperwork is not in order they will either not bring it or ghost you, and that's how you know.

I hope you have both had the 3 series of HPV vaccines. HPV is sexually transmitted. It can cause cervical, throat and other cancers. Usually it goes dormant and is harmless, but not always. Condoms can help, but it is spread through skin to skin contact, sometimes at places not covered by condoms. There is no HPV test for men. Except genital warts. If you have that, you tested positive! You can get the vaccines up to age 45, but some doctors and organizations will vaccinate later. I urge potential swingers and actual swingers to get it.

Men both of them. Wonder where they are today.

The young man got training he didn't expect.

To me the way I, or my wife or really the others in our group, has sex doesn't seem different whether it's love making or just a casual fuck, with our spouses or one of the others. Of course either can run the spectrum from slow and tender to a hard banging, but either can be love or just sex. It's the unseen emotions inside that are the difference. That's I think why people in the vanilla world can get confused about whether their relationship is love or just a fuck buddy. In our group though we talk about it when the clothes are on about how we feel.

Hi! It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, and your concerns on these matters are justified. For us, our swinging falls into two camps: 1. "anonymous" sex like the kind you engage in at swing clubs and houseparties (or other hookups with strangers). 2. "closed" swinging like when you invite regular long-term partners to your house (or are invited to theirs) For #1, it is acceptable to refrain from open mouth kissing and unprotected sex. We have used male condoms, female condoms, dental dams... all sorts of prophylaxis in club settings and it's no insult to insist on using them. We regard those who prefer to forego precautions in such settings as risky and irresponsible. For #2 it's required to show a recent std panel. We get tested a couple times a year and so do others we play with in our little set of regulars. With this formality out of the way we enjoy bareback sex. No condoms or dental dams required. Ideally, as you gain LS experience you will gain trusted partners for scenario #2. I think everyone prefers sex without condoms etc., but you have to be careful about your partners.

I agree, I take my viagra the same way and seems like I have the same results as you. The stimulation that you mention is an important part, some women think a viagra pill is all we need , stimulation is key, especially 2nd or 3rd time. 69 works best for me especially when my partner enjoys 69 as me !

Viagra, I've found, makes me very hard (with appropriate stimulation) for the first six or eight hours. Then, the next day, I'm still firmer than usual for around twenty hours - great for morning sex after a night out.

Question: Would any of these drugs be appropriate for men in their thirties who have gone once (maybe twice) in the morning, but then have trouble before bedtime going once (maybe twice) again? I understand that the boys have worked all day, worked out, helped around the house, but often for us women evening is a time of greatest desire. (The guys want it most in the morning.) Thanks.

Anyone on the Board longer? I think I need twice the Viagra dose of when I started! Glad to still be here!

Only 12 years for us...in some ways, it seems much longer, but in most ways, it seems like we just started. Good times...

The 5 daily plus a boost is a fairly common regimen. Mr. FL has been on tadalafil (Cialis) for about a decade for some mild pulmonary hypertension and the boost noted here is precisely what he does.

They didn’t ask for us to pay we volunteered. Timmy said the hotel is about $150 and not a big deal if we do end up paying for it. I laugh because he is so excited that there is another woman involved, 3 of us and only 2 men. It is still so new to us.

I love that people care about others. You must be a terrific person by the remarks I am reading.

Thank you all for your kind words.

The first time was playing with another couple, the women are bi and wanted us men to suck one another after a swap. Did it to make them happy, and it was good. Later with another couple, the husband had already cum in my wife's ass, while I was in his wife's pussy, but hadn't cum. My wife joked that I should now stick it in his ass, his wife agreed. So I withdrew from her cunt and finished in him. It was hot enough that I got hard again not much later and bum fucked his wife too.