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Just to take bbarnsworth’s suggestion to the endzone, join an online meeting site. The biggest is SLS. They have regional biases. We find SDC big in Florida. Look around at those, attend meet and greet events, take it from there.

The 607 covers a pretty long area east-west. Still, if you're willing to drive a bit, I'm sure you can find people. Is Syracuse within easy drive? If you're out in the Steuben County area, you're probably going to have to drive a bit. Just the realities of the population being lower in that area. If you live on the other end of the area code, in the Delaware County area, maybe Albany is your best bet? Again, realities of lower population areas. If you're in the Tri-Cities area, it shouldn't be too hard. Some of the swinger personals sites can vary in popularity based on where you are. Have you tried such sites, or if you have, have you tried others?

We both have. I love women as much as men now. My husband loves women but totally enjoys sucking cock with me and getting fucked. My favorite and his, position is the both of us side by side spot roasted. We love seeing each other sucking and getting fucked so we will switch directions to watch the other at the same time taking it each way. He loves when I take it anally at the same time as he does as well. When anyone asks him if he is bi, he no longer hesitates and if they ask him what he prefers he always tells them about what he prefers with me, other women, and then the guys. We've had young wives ask him about the bisex and his description is so amazing you can see the ladies toes curl, breasts become alert, legs together, eyes batting, face and neck flushing, and squirming - lol. We have several waiting to get into our group I believe due to him. He definitely identifies as bi but does not seek out bi men, is not attracted to men, but is attracted to couples, if that makes sense. I am agree with him, it's about the couple not either or.

Apropos to our recent trip to the south of France we were invited to join friends plus two couples we didn’t know to share an AirBnb for 10 days. We know our friends in many sexual ways always having great times. Thinking about group sex and one on one sex it is different. I never thought being alone with a single woman as being with a lover. During our vacation we each did spend at least one night alone with a partner, one I felt I was stuck with. I was happy she fell asleep and let me sleep. I never let on that the night wasn’t great, she was more fun outside the bedroom. The only one I told was Lin who didn’t complain about any of the men.

I lived in Endicott 25+ years ago, and there was an active scene that used notices in the Press & Sun Bulletin's 'want ads' for meetups and parties. Email was new, and not everyone had it, and cell phones were not yet a thing. It was there. It was hard to find/get involved compared to today. But the point is: it is, indeed, there.

Clearing your mind of negativity is very cathartic. Positive thoughts and meditation also helps. I have a kalyana mitta who has been a guide and facilitator for me.

Mad, angry. Talk no, yelled, cursed. I never thought of being a swinger. I only thought of sex as something I did with a boyfriend not being outgoing I was more shy, not sexually overactive. In retrospect I became less sexual and used. I didn’t have great sex at the time, it was expected sex. I’m thinking I pretended that sex with him was fun. It was so long ago all I can remember was that damn camera.

It wasn’t swinging it was college when a boyfriend had a camcorder that he set up on his desk. We would play it back after. Most of the time it was blurry or not focused on us. Other times he held the cam which wasn’t very enjoyable for me. Thankfully tapes aren’t a thing anymore and he isn’t in my life. I know for a fact he shared those tapes after or maybe before we broke up. I wonder what he would say if he knew I ended up a swinger.

This is the part that is concerning. You say it was consensual but you regretted it. I am not a fan of rough sex but my GF is. As a matter of fact, she is the one who actually introduced it to me. But a lot of that rough sex (or you can call it S&M or whatever the official name of it might be) is like you said, abusive sex (at least to me). Now she has sexual partners (many of who are my friends) who can fulfill that for her. While she enjoys it, it is still nonetheless "abusive sex," albeit consensual. And I think you're right that the more you let them have, the more abusive, humiliating, degrading, etc., they want. So it's "consensual" but where does it really stop when you keep giving up more and more like that? I've looked into this with my GF and it's a real thing with some women who are submissive and a lot of the play is classified as "consensual non-consent." Neither of us judge each other or others but in my head I do question this type of stuff. How can you consent to something that you don't actually consent to? Not only can it be dangerous but I think the fact that it's on video can create additional problems. While she consents to all of this stuff on video, I always think about the regret down the line.

I think it is easier to be bi with a female involved (mmf) rather than a mm one- on- one. The wife involvement tends to give license for bi experimentation for normally straight males, at least it was for me. I could lick a cock after it was dipped in vagina but could not get the courage to suck outright.

Definitely😛

Creating a baby trap? For you or her? (I shouldn't talk. It was unintentional I believe (Clair offered to abort) but that's what turned our woman (me) with husband and boyfriend casually playing with other single women into our poly family. It was the best thing to happen.)

When we started swinging in the '90s male bisexuality was forbidden - at least in the Lifestyle circles we moved in. But by the early 2000s we saw that start to change. For us, the Lifestyle has always been about trying new things and expanding our boundaries so before we knew it we found ourselves enjoying 3somes and 4somes with bisexual men. Although I still limit my m2m play to oral, mutual oral among the guys has become part of our standard repertoire and we now prefer couples and singles who are open to male bisexuality.

We both love cum! My husband loves it when a guy fills my pussy with his cum then eats me. He also likes to suck cock and get cum in his mouth from a guy. I love licking pussy a lot and love licking my husband's cum out of another woman.

I finally cleared a hurdle with my wife in that she now knows I like cum, my own at least. A couple weeks ago I decided that instead of finishing inside her pussy, I would pull out and cum ON her pussy, lick it up and then kiss her. What did I have to lose? Besides, she likes everything else so far, why not this? She like to suck my cock, fingers, and anything else that ends up wet with her pussy juice. She even likes when I help her suck her dildo. When the time came I pulled out and announced that I would cum on her pussy. Her response was more than positive. It took me longer than I expected to finally shoot but when I finally did I came buckets all over her pussy, stomach and inner thighs. I did not admire my work long though as I quickly dove in and began licking and sucking up my cum from her asshole to her navel. After I had collected all of my cum I lifted my head to show my cum filled mouth. I let some fall down onto her snatch and began playing with it with my tongue and mouth. I even got my nose involved! She loved every second of it. Finally, I scooted up until we were face to face, and then she answered my prayers by opening her mouth and presenting her tongue for me to drain my mouthful of cum onto. I was swapping cum with my wife just like you see in videos. I had done this before but this was my wife and therefore on the table on a regular basis. It was so hot. Now I regularly cum on her and lick it up. I can't tell you how big that is for us!

OK, I'm a single (but attached) female exploring swinging with my significant other. Before I met him I interacted with a lot of single guys in this lifestyle, online, on the phone, and some in person. It has been my experience that the guys who are into this lifestyle are a lot less homophobic than the general population of guys who aren't into swinging. The idea of being in the same room with another naked aroused male is very threatening to a lot of guys outside the swinging community but a given within the lifestyle. Having said that, I have a fantasy about two guys together in a threesome situation - some m/m - with a female (that would be me lol) but the guys are both straight. Let me explain....I used to think two seeing two guys together would be really really hot but after getting to know one single guy who was straight in his profile but way more than bi in reality, I discovered that when a guy leans toward being gay as in saying beforehand that he loves women but in a threesome situation would love to suck a cock (especially if it's been inside me first) and would be open to anal with a guy in the same situation, it was a turn-off. I found through that that my fantasy has more to do with a guy who is truly straight but comfortable enough with his masculinity to be open to incidental (or a little more than incidental) contact in a mfm situation. Who is so into the moment and so turned on that he lets things happen/does things he wouldn't have done otherwise. A straight guy who will go down on me after another guy has cum in me (huge fantasy, not bi but certainly not homophobic), who will maybe in the heat of the moment let another guy fuck me while we are in a 69 position with me on top. This is a big fantasy, I don't want him to suck another guy's cock, but there will be some incidental contact in a situation like that involving licking more than likely. I think that is SO yummy. A guy who's not afraid to touch another guy's cum on me or who loves sloppy seconds and cream pies. I don't consider that bi but the idea of it turns me on a lot. Even a man who's comfortable guiding the other guy's penis into me if it slips out or who's comfortable with his cock touching the other guy's cock inside me in a double penetration kind of thing. The fantasy that gets me off every time right now is this: The guy I'm dating and I are in a mfm and the attention is focused on me entirely We have all kinds of foreplay, both sucking my breasts, a lot of kisses from my guy, etc. One going down on me while I suck the other guy. Then I suck them both at the same time, one then the other, holding both cocks in my hands. I have their cocks like an inch from each other while I suck them and even let them barely touch as I take one in my mouth and then the other (Very hot to me btw). Then we attempt a double vaginal with me on top of the other guy (who can't be very big lol) and my bf behind me. Both guys are loving it. My bf cums inside me first and pulls out leaving the other guy inside me and then slides a finger or two into my pussy while the other guy and I are still fucking. I usually come by this point, my fantasy gets no further lol. But that's the one that really works for me right now. So it's kind of a bi fantasy, but kind of not because neither guy in my fantasy is bi. Just open to the moment. The thought of two guys kissing or hugging is a huge turn off though as is straight out oral, one guy on his knees in front of the other guy...submissive guys are a big turn off to me, maybe that's why. A guy with a cock in his mouth or on the receiving end of anal is putting himself in a submissive position.

That is probably my #1 fantasy... to see two guys together.

It would be interesting to know just how many female halves have a fantasy of seeing their hubby with a guy. Are there some of you out there that harbor the fantasy, but never mention it because you know what your hubby's reaction would be? Christine and I seem to be in a very small minority because neither of us are interested in seeing the other with someone of the same sex. I know I know....how can I be normal if I don't want to see her with another woman?? (that's totally tongue in cheek btw!) It's just SOOO much more exciting seeing her with another guy! Anyway....back to the original topic..... I've always (and still do) consider myself straight. If Christine was interested in seeing me in a bi situation, then I guess it's something I would seriously consider. But since she's not, and I don't think it's something I would ever seek out on my own.... Then again, who knows, when we got married I never thought I'd see (much less enjoy!) her riding another guy. Isn't exploring our sexual selves what this is all about anyway?