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Hello all, my wife and I are looking into going to Caliente Tampa in late June and was hoping someone here could shed some light on the accommodations. I’ve been able to find info on the social scene, which looks to be fun (but please feel free to let us know more), but I can’t find a whole lot on the rooms/condos. Not expecting a 5 Star resort, but would like some sort of insight. Should we stay at hotel or Casita (not sure what this even is) or condo? Also any info on experience if you took the Club Preview Tour promotion would also be greatly appreciated. We’re looking forward to a great time (we’ve only experienced a day/night pass at Hedo...good times!), but don’t want it to be ruined by substandard accommodations. Thanks for any input you can provide! J and L -
I did not want to hijack the other recent thread that is similar to this... so I started a new one here. also... I recently made a reply to a "Getting Started" type thread, that is along this topic as well. (As a reference.) This type of question comes up a lot on this BBS (scattered all over the place), so I am attempting to get some comparisons and feedback in one place. If you feel so inclined... Please feel free to comment, share your experience, etc., on the following: (One or more... Or any combination you want.) What is your preference? "Date" Webs vs Swingers Club vs Meet & Greet vs House Party vs Resort vs Cruise Why? What has your experience (progression) been like? Started with one. "Graduated" or changed to another because...? ... etc. I've tried finding out details online, but I must be missing something. So... Maybe someone here can clarify a few things for me... For Hedonism II ... a.k.a. "Hedo" "All Inclusive" ... "Lifestyle-friendly" It sounds like sex out in the open, day or night, is acceptable here. Maybe not so much in the dining areas and such... but from what I've gleaned, this is way more than just a simple "CO" resort. (With folks hooking-up in private rooms, or designated play areas on the resort grounds.) Any comments or experience here? For Desire "All Inclusive" It sounds like this is more of just a "Clothing Optional" (CO) facility, and sex out in the open (on the beach, in the hot-tub, etc.) is not looked upon favorably. One LS podcaster I heard called Desire “My happy place”... but it is not real clear (from their web) if Desire (one or both) is “Lifestyle Friendly”. The Desire Cruises seem to be LS Friendly. Also.. There are apparently two Club / Resorts for Desire: Desire Riviera Maya Resort Desire Riviera Maya Pearl Resort What is the difference here, if any? and / or... Here in the "Lower 48"... It seems the only real "Lifestyle Resort" (that rivals places like Hedo & Desire) is: Sea Mountain Lifestyle Resort Sounds like a “Day Visit” facility that is "Lifestyle Friendly", with a few (15) luxury rooms... similar to Hedo & Desire in atmosphere. Any comments or experience here? Any other similar resorts (in the Lower 48)? I am aware of some other "Lifestyle Resorts" that seem more like glorified clubs. Freedom Acres - Devore CA ... just North of San Bernardino, CA / LA Area I am also aware of a few others... but they seem to be just "CO" (Naturist) type facilities. Paradise Lakes Resort … Lutz, FL - North of Tampa http://www.paradiselakes.com/ “Paradise Lakes Resort is a private, clothing optional resort, located in the heart of the nudist capital of the United States - Pasco County, Florida.” (More Naturist than Lifestyle... or so it seems.) Caliente Resorts … Land O Lakes, FL - North of Tampa https://calienteresorts.com/ “Adults Only” https://calienteresorts.com/faq/ (More Naturist than Lifestyle.) “Overt sexual behavior or the appearance of such behavior is unacceptable at Caliente Resorts. Behavior 'never needing an apology' is the norm.” Paradise Valley Resort & Club - Dawsonville, GA http://www.paradisevalleyclub.com/ (More Naturist than Lifestyle.) “Behavior requiring an apology is not tolerated.” (The term "Paradise" seems to come up a lot.) (Maybe it is just a name, in terms of cleanliness, atmosphere, etc.) I know that is a lot... but any light shed on just one of these would be helpful. Many of these sites do not have FAQ pages, for quick & easy answers. I am also aware of the (limited?) crossover between Naturist & Swinger communities. A simple "Copy & Paste" for a link reference would be greatly appreciated (for anything not mentioned here). Most all of this I have heard mentioned on this BBS at some point (in the past few years). Regardless of what the responses here are... I find it pretty amazing that there are so many LS type opportunities available. -
We had a great time there over Memorial Day weekend. Nice people at the pool during the day. VERY friendly people in the conversation pool at night. Recommend it highly!
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Recent word is that seems like some of the property owners don't care for Caliente reaching out to the swinging community instead of remaining strictly a nudist resort. -
Well, we are taking the plunge and going to our first experience at a clothing optional resort in Caliente Tampa. The choice was an easy one for us as we are usually in Florida, namely the Tampa area, at least once a year. As we have been involved in the LS for almost 3 years now, and have been to EyzWideShut in Tampa, we figured "Why not?" Let's make this our next step, especially since Caliente is basically on our doorstep when we are in Florida. Read many reviews, chatted with many people that have been there. Seen all opinions good and bad about the place. However, we will go with our curiosity and reserve any opinions based on our own experience. Nicest thing is that we will be meeting another couple for the first time that are regulars at the resort. Will post to let everyone know how it turns out. -
I was thinking of writing a long and derailed review of our stay at Caliente but now I think that that I should just address the points I found most interesting. Caliente is currently a “clothes optional” resort, which means that nudity is not mandatory, except in a few areas, including the swimming pools. Caliente is a mix of a typical resort and a condominium association. There are large single family homes belonging to people who live full time at the resort, there are town houses and ordinary condos, also owned by full time owners, there are casitas, and finally, there are some hotel rooms. Accordingly, you will find a mix of people there - locals who live either full time at the resort or are “snow birds,” - locals who live outside Caliente but visit occasionally for the events, and - visitors, who to there for a few days, like Sweetie and I. Talking to some of the old-time residents shows that Caliente started as a “traditional” nudist or naturalist resort, which later started catering to “swingers.” Some of the initial residents were so dissatisfied with the change that they sold their properties and moved out. During our visit we saw no children, and the adults were in various stages of nudity. We saw very few single men. Contrary to some reviews, not all women were size zero. There were folks from all sizes and shapes, with the fit and better looking people being of a larger percentage. On some Thursdays there is a “singles” night, when singles from the are arrive to Caliente and gather to socialize around the swimming pools. This is not an event aiming for helping folk find a marriage partner. It is more of a social group. On Thursday evening, we were at the pool and several folks talked with us. One lady, 30-something had invited four male friends for something, which did not become clear. Another lady, liked us so much that we met on the next day. Thursday also has the “ladies night” which means free drinks for the ladies. The dance club was packed with folks of various degree of nudity. The dance starts around 8-9 PM and goes to after midnight. Women from the crowd were trying their pole-dancing skills on the three poles on the dance floor. We saw no sexual activity on the dance floor. We spent some time at the club, danced a bit and then went to the heated swimming pools, where we expected to a wild orgy, as presented in some reviews. Well, we didn’t find a party like that in “Eyes wide shut.” A couple was having sex by the pool and several women were giving blowjobs to their men in the hot tub. These all appeared to be existing couples and we saw no partner-swapping. On Friday the weather got cold. Quite cold for Florida in that part of the year. Optimistic from what we saw on Thursday, we expected that Friday night would be packed nevertheless, and that that “Eyes wide shut”-type of party may ensue. Carried away with other things, we forgot about the meet and greet that occurs every Friday between 5-8PM in the bar right after the entrance. When we visited the dance club that night, we were surprised to see how few couples were there. A couple told that this was “the slowest Friday” that have ever seen. Another couple of frequent visitors told us that the party on Friday is in the nearby resort “Paradise Lakes.” Well, this is a surprise. Lesson learned: have a car. In Caliente you have the option to have the rental car parked fro you in front of your unit. After the club we moved to the pool area. The air was cool, almost making it uncomfortable to stay nude. People hopped between the heated pools to stay warm. People were chatting in the pools and later several women gave blow jobs to their men, again no partner swapping. Saturday was the coldest day of all. Local folks were shaking heads with disbelief. We had planned from earlier days to meet newly-made friends so we kept busy for most of the day. There was some crowd at the dance club in the evening, but nothing special. Sunday was our last full day at Caliente. Expecting that there would be no late night activity (no dance night and many visitors leaving by the mid afternoon) we planned to take is easy and hang around the pool. This is the first time we tried the main swimming pool and found our that it was unheated, and too cold to have fun there. Right after lunch we discovered that there was yet another heated “conversation pool” and dipped in after we saw one of our friends there. Some time later a nearby couple got into conversation with us and after a while some mild play began. Then they suggested that we all move to the other conversation pool. After moving to the new pool and having more chat we were about to resume our cautious play. Then they said that they were going to get drinks from the bar and meet us at the previous pool in fifteen minutes. Later, my wife and I talked that probably the woman was not that interested in me, but was taking one for the team, because the husband was interested in my wife. However, we can’t tell for sure. As they were leaving, a pretty 20-sometiong stopped on pavement across the pool. Without much thinking I said out loud “Wow! She is beautiful!” mostly to myself. Then it happened. Apparently my exclamation was heard by others, because as I moved my eyes away from the 20-something beauty, I saw a woman in the pool who was looking at me. She was right up to my taste. She smiled and made a move forward to introduce herself. After less than 20 seconds we were already making out. My wife, I, the woman and her friend spent the next three hours completely oblivious about the world around us. This was in the mid-afternoon, and although nothing beyond kissing and petting took place, the next three hours were my most exciting for this vacation. Needless to say, we did not make it in 15 minutes to the other pool where the first couple was. At some point I saw with my peripheral vision that the husband had come again to our pool, but I was preoccupied with caressing what was sitting on my lap. I felt bad but there was nothing to do, being between a rock and a hard place. It appears that if you are interested in a couple and there is a response, go for it! Don’t goof around because this game is “now or never” when it involves visitors at a resort. Too much excitement to sleep that night. Today we travelled back, constantly thinking about this being the most fun and sexiest vacation we have had as a couple. Few other points: The staff, including waiters and shuttle drivers was extremely friendly and willing to help. I have never seen such willingness to please the customer. The price of the trip (plane tickets from NYC, four days in a casita, daily membership fee, and food) came about $2,500, give or take. We ate out almost all the time but drank almost no alcohol. The casitas are actually single-wide trailers with water and A/C. Ours was fine and did the job for a few days. There are people who live in the casitas year-round. There are grocery stores nearby and having a car/preparing food at home is a feasible option when the stay is longer. Conclusion: so far, based on our experience, the swimming pools are the place to meet friends and play-partners, beating other venues by large margin. Hang at the pool!
