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For the first 5 years of our relationship, you could say that I was a prude. Example: One time Karen wore a shear see thru blouse, I got upset with her because her bra was visible thru the blouse. I was very possessive of her. That changed after a night out with some of my friends. There were four couples and we were all drinking. One of the women was rubbing my cock under the table, and the talk was very risque. I could tell that this group had switched their partners back and forth. The idea began to excite me. At that time Karen was not on any birth control, so, that was totally out of the question, but the seed was planted. After a number of miscarriages, she finally gave birth to our first child, and had an IUD placed in her uterus. The idea of swinging had gone away, until she told me that she was sure the two households up the road had been swapping wives and the two women had actually moved in with the other husband. That lasted a couple of months, then they each went home to their husbands. We would visit one of the neighbors that were closest to us and play cards. The old scenario of my swinging friends came back to me. It took me some time to figure out how to approach Karen. Finally I had the idea of asking her to go to the neighbors, bra-less. I told her, “Dale always went bra-less and you should do the same.” She said, “That’s alright for her. not to wear one, but she has A-cup breasts.” “It wasn’t fair to her husband, because I got a good look at his wife’s tits and he did not get to see any thing from you,” I told her. She relented. I had her put on a light very sheer blouse that I had removed the top buttons from. The one button below her breasts, I had weakened to only one strand of thread, so a slight pull would make the button come off. It was great, her pokies were very noticeable. And when the button finally came off Bob could see her entire breast and her erect nipple. He couldn’t keep his eyes off of her. When his wife Dale noticed that Karen's blouse was open, she gave Karen the high sign. Karen pushed the material back together, but when Dale wasn’t looking she let it open up again, to give Bob another view. He then suggested that we all play strip poker, but Dale would have none of it. That moving in between her and the other wife had almost cost her marriage. This was important to me, because now I knew that Karen liked the idea of getting sexual. After that, we were good friends with these people. They lent us their porn movies, old 8mm film, and they took Karen and I to the adult store in a nearby city. Then, one night after we left their house, I put plan B to work. As we were making love, I said, “Honey wouldn’t you like it if it was Bob sucking on your nipple, and putting his finger inside you?” She sighed satisfactorily. It was obvious by her reaction that she liked the idea. After I penetrated her, I said: “Would you like it if it was Bob’s cock inside you?” Once again, another positive reaction. When we were done, I told her that: “You came hard to the idea of having sex with Bob, didn’t you?” She passed it off, saying, “It’s a real turn-on, but I wouldn’t ever really do it.” Over the next few months, I kept it up. Finally, I said to her: “Why don’t we hint to Dale and Bob if they would like to swap partners? I know you like the idea”. She said, “I do, but I know Dale has sworn off such ideas, so I know she wouldn’t agree.” I replied, “How about letting Bob come to the house for a threesome?” She said, “No I wouldn’t do that to her, besides they live way too close, But if we found a male, and I had sex with just you and him, no female, I definitely would consider it.” She agreed that we would go to bars and clubs that were away from were we lived, she would look for someone that she was attracted to. She did. Read OUR FIRST MMF ENCOUNTER The photo attached is of her leaving the hotel to go home. With Steve’s spunk still in her tummy.
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We've been together for 8 years and I'd really like to add a little spice to our sex life. The idea of swinging or checking out swing clubs is a major turn-on for me. Unlike most guys, my reasons aren't so I can screw another lady. While that would be pleasurable, the idea of watching her with someone else sets my loins on fire. I've tried to get her to talk about it, checking out a club, placing an online ad, etc. I've made it clear that there is no commitment to any particular action or contact with anyone else. If that happens-great. If it doesn't, then at least we've opened our eyes to the possibility somewhere down the road. If nothing else, the excitement would ignite the flames between us. I truly love and respect her - I tell her often. However, she does not want to discuss or even play with the idea of swinging. When I express that the desire to swing is part of who I am, she states that she doesn't like that part of me and the discussion ends. Any advice? Assuming that I don't drop the topic and deny my desires, how can I open her to the idea of swinging?
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Hello, long time lurker here, married many decades, long interest in lifestyle. Wife has posed many questions to me about lifestyle that I have not been able to answer. Once you have begun to swing how has it affected your marriage? Do you find that over time that you lose intimacy? I have noticed people seem to start swinging and then they seem to disappear. I realize that this is something to be carefully navigated as a couple but is this a recipe for a divorce? There is so much misinformation on the net as many of the sources have agendas. I truly love my wife and am very sexually attracted to her and do not want to destroy something precious. I would love to hear about successful long married long swinging couples who remain highly in love and continue to enjoy sex with each other and carefully selected friends.
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A little background on us if you don't mind. We've been together for about 14 years and both previously married. I'm 47 and she's 51. Our sex life out the gate was just amazing. I've never been with anyone like her or since her. We've played with straight mfm threesomes in the past, some very good in my opinion others not so much. Guess my issue is that I'd still like to play occasionally but the wife gets upset if I suggest it and it usually turns into an argument therefore I've let it be for the most part but not the only one that brings it up if even in a roundabout way.. I understand that we've both got health issues that keep us from being all acrobatic and such lol. Even though I don't bring it up there's times she does but not in a yea let's do it sorta way, more along the lines of just past enough tequila when It used to happen to now why isn't she enough? Not trying to be a complete asshole but I enjoy sharing her and she's very good when she gets into it. Just wondering how to calm down my inclinations or play with out hurting her?
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So my wife and I have been dirty talking a MMF 3way for a bit now. She desperately wants to be penetrated while she gives oral, but she strongly thinks that as a married couple it should only be us. She can't help but twerk her ass when she's on her knees sucking me and we both get super turned on when talking about another guy sharing her. I've talked her into getting a thrusting dildo and seeing how that goes. Any tips on how to get it to go further? I'd love to share my wife with another man and eventually experiment with other aspects of swinging.
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We all know how it's usually the husbands that bring up swinging to their wives. But what if you know that your wife will shoot down swinging? Would it be easier to convice her to become a nudist and then go from there?
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I usually read that it’s the man that suggested swinging, for us it was my wife, how did you react? I figure most will immediately say they didn’t hesitate and jumped at the suggestion. I think that is a too simple answer. My first feelings were why did she want or find the need to go to someone else for sexual satisfaction, was I not enough. She did explain that our friends were swingers and it sounded fun and thought she would enjoy sex with her girlfriend. We have now been playing with our friends for years and I have no regrets, they are our pandemic lockdown relief and we were talking how they got me to agree in the beginning.
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My girlfriend and I reconnected after many, many years. We are now both 50 and having the best sex of our lives. We've been together for over a year now, and living together for 9 months. I want to tell you about ourselves, so that you might help me understand if I'm pushing too hard, or whether there is hope. We average sex more than twice a day, since she moved in. Its so awesome. She is a beautiful woman and never had a great sex life. Her ex-husband was 4" and could last for 2 minutes. So she never knew what it was like to have great sex. We enjoy each other's bodies without guilt. We enjoy oral sex, anal sex, and just about any kind of sex between each other. She swallows every time, but loves it almost anywhere. When I eat her pussy, and finger fuck her ass and dildo her pussy, she always explodes. She's even gushed a few times, Wow! We used to enjoy public sex. On the balcony of our hotel, as others might see. I once did her anally in an elevator and came in her ass in the adjoining stairwell of the hotel we were staying at. We've done it on golf carts, in the car, on the side of the road, . . . the list just keeps getting bigger. But then, she agreed to let me take her to Hedo in Jamica. WOW! We loved each other everyday, almost every minute. Within minutes, she was in the water, blowing me while others sunned in the water near us. She openly sucked me in the piano bar. The girl is so great. We fucked in so many locations, and just loved the open sex. We then went to a swinger's campground, and she openly sucked me in the resturant, in the hot tub, where another woman offered to help. And then we had sex in a room with several others. Finally at the local sex club we've gone three times and had open sex in front of dozens of others. My favorite time, was when this one young guy had two women laying on the couch next to me, while they did each other and themselves, all within smelling distance. She was sucking my cock, while others looked over our shoulders, as two hot chicks danced around a pole mere inches in front of her face on my cock. We are returning to hedo and to these other places, but she has said she didn't want to do a three way. I've not pushed, but I'm game for either an MMF or a fmf, as every guy would like. I don't want to push her, but from where we started, to where we are now! OMG. We don't enjoy public sex anymore. We want to enjoy sex openly without offending anyone, so the sex clubs and Hedo beach, is where we want to be. I mention it to her in fantasies, but she continues to reject it when we go too far. Any help in easing her burden by examples of you women and how you finally were talked into it would be helpful. And don't say NOT TO PUSH. Life is too short not to experience a dream, but I am delicate, or I try to be. But what I want to know, is what finally put you over the top. How did you finally let go of your inhibitions and say, hey, I'm into a romantic sexual threeway or four way with my man.
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About two years ago my husband mentioned he wanted to watch me get fucked by somebody else. Over the past year he has been pushing it on me every day, and he gets so turned on even thinking about another man fucking me. He sends me pics he has found on the net to make me get more and more into it. My question is, am I in the right place? I'm starting to get more and more into the thought of it. But I'm not sure where to start. The only thing is, I don't want him being sexual with other people. Is there a place in swinging for someone like me?
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I will pay for a decent looking guy that's very hung to try to seduce my wife. Miami, fl
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My girlfriend has been quite reluctant and hesitant about swinging or the idea of it. It's really new to both of us. When we have sex I used to bring up the idea of swinging and us being with another couple... she has been keeping quiet. Today I brought it up again and she played along... kept telling me about how she is imagining how another guy is fucking her, etc. Seemed to turn her on quite a bit. And she even mentioned how I'll be enjoying the other girl, etc.... all in the heat of the moment. And after that we didn't speak about it. This is heading in the right direction isn't it? I don't think we are ready to swing yet or anything... but I'm ready to escalate our fantasizing to a new level... any suggestions? I'm very interested to know who or what type of guy she fantasized about, etc.
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We have always considered ourselves fortunate in that we hadn't had any "bad" experiences per se, some have just been better than others and quite a few didn't work out but no drama or ill-will at all. We we finally have a real head-scratcher and eye-roller story to share of our own. If nothing else it is a good lesson in what happens when you ignore the red flags. Our story begins when a couple with a very well-written profile, many similar preferences and some very nice pictures wrote to us. We wrote back and forth and they were brand new uncertified newbies who had only been on a site a few days (pink flag). They were up front about being virgins but seemed very interested in getting out and having some fun. their messages were well written and perfectly appropriate. One Friday night they happened to be on and we started IM chatting. It was with the male half and he mentioned that they had set up a little mini-gang bang for her the following night with two single males. We asked him how she decided to pick out the males out of all the SMs out there and he said that he was the one that picked them out and that she had put him in charge of making the arrainments (red flag#1) We wished him luck and warned him that SMs are notorious no-shows. The next afternoon they wrote to us and said we were right that the SMs had bailed and wondered if we wanted to get together. I was pretty skeptical but my wife was really interested in this couple and she is not normally very bi but she thought this gal was really hot (and I agreed with her:) We made arraingements to meet at a restaurant and they arrived at the appointed time. They were very attractive and well-spoken and my normally not-all-that-bi wife was bigtime attracted to the fem half. We started making chit chat and getting to know each other and the red flags started flapping wildly in the breeze. It turned out they were not married or living together but were legitimately dating. Anytime we used the words "lifestyle" or "playing" or "soft swing" etc the fem half would need a full interpretation. She was completely clueless about the lifestyle or anything lifestyle related (red flag#2) We quickly found out that she was aware they were on "some website" but she was unaware that it was a swinger website and unaware that he had posted pictures of her on it and she had never seen or been involved in the making of their profile (red flag #3) She had never seen our profile and he hadn't told her anything about us or of our previous conversations. (red flag#4) When we started grilling her about her lack of involvement and trying to determine if she was even consenting she stated that she left all that up to him and that she trusted him to pick out playmates by himself (red flag#5) Now normally we would have paid our tab and left at this point but she did seem genuinly interested in pursuing some sort of encounter and my wife was very attracted to her for some reason. The male half began propositioning us and really wanting for us to get a motel room and play (he was doing it respectfully and appropriately) I ended up asking the fem half point blank if she was attracted to me/us and asked her directly if she wanted to play also and she said yes. However while this was going on they were chugging down a couple different $200 bottles of wine and ordering a bunch of other potent cocktails and chugging them down one after another (red flag#6) Well againt my better judgement and advice my wife still wanted to get a room with these two and since it is usually she that is putting on the brakes I figured I'd go along with it (maybe not a red flag but just a dumb move on my part #1) We got to the room and she was stumblingly drunk but going along with his coaxing (red flag #7 and dumb move #2 for me staying) They started playing with each other and my wife and I started playing with each other. the other fem got on the bed face down with her ass in the air and her face buried in the bed and he pulled her pants down to her knees and started licking her ass and that is what they did for the next 15-20 minutes. I eventually started poking her in the shoulder to see if she was still conscious and still breathing. She did come around a little bit and he mounted her from behind and started telling her to suck my cock. At about the 5th time he told her to suck my cock she kept her face buried in the sheets but started feeling around to try and find me on the bed. That was the final straw. We got up and started getting dressed and while she still layed there face down not moving he was sincerly suprised and couldn't understand why we were leaving. We gathered up our stuff and started heading out and then he kind of realized we weren't happy and started appologizing and saying next time they wouldn't get so drunk. Needless to say, there was no next time and we learned our lesson about heeding red flags. At least now we have our own Night-Gone-Bad story now:lol:.
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Hello everyone I am a married male. I would love to be able to share my wife but she is so far not open to the idea. I am looking to see if people here are in the same situation and advise from people who have experience in this area. I am not bi but just have the desire to see my wife being pleasured by/with another man. Thank you!
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When you first brought up the idea of swinging to your partner, what objections (if any) did you have to overcome before they were willing to give it a try? - Worry about one or both of you falling in love with someone else? - Worry about potential jealousy? - Worry about family/friends finding out? - Worry about you thinking less of them for doing so? - Worry that swinging is morally wrong? Religious/ Moral Issues? - Worry that your desire for swinging means that they are not enough for you? That you don't love them anymore or will love them less? How did you handle these questions? What answers did you give? How did you overcome the objections?
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I'm 44 and my wife 43. We have been married for almost 13 years. I have been talking to people on other boards and come to the conclusion I would like to introduce my wife to another person in the bed room. Haven't at the point decided on either a MFM or a MFF. I have brought the subject up to the wife and her normal response is: No... Not in this life time ... or other such negative responses. Last night she said that she wouldn't consider it because it you 'Violate the Sanctity' of our marriage.. So tell me, since my wife is very straight-laced and all is there any chance I could change her mind, or am I wasting my time even discussing it with her?
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Hello everyone! I've been reading this board for the past couple of weeks and decided to post some questions to the community. Most of my questions have been answered by reading the posts. Maybe you can help me with a few others. ----------------- Question 1: From the subject line, you know that I love to smell women's butts. There is nothing that turns me on more than a woman with a dirty, sweaty butthole. Especially when a woman has a nice round butt. It is so animalistic and turns me in to a wild sex animal! No joke, I love to smell butts. I got hooked on it when I was around 14 or 15 and became sexually active. I'll always remember the butt smell that would rise when I took off a girls panties. It has become linked to sexual arousal to me, much like Pavlov's dogs. When I think of sexual activity I think of the scent of a woman's butt. I don't like poop. But I love a woman with a dirty, sweaty ass. I think there's probably other men out there with that fetish. Most of my former girlfriends have been disgusted when I told them that I like to smell their butts. They usually let me though. Sometimes I'll request that they not bathe for a day or two or longer so their butt is nice and stinky! Then I spread those ass cheeks wide and rub that anus all over my chest. One time a former girlfriend didn't bathe for almost a week--we 69'd for an hour. A few one night stands I've had I've told the women that I wanted to smell their butts. Just telling them that is a turn on in itself because I never know how they'll react, if they'll be cool with it or if they'll freak out (one former girlfriend got turned on by me smelling her asshole). Often, I don't tell them and just do it anyway. Usually if you meet a woman at a bar who is actively looking for sex she's going to be clean and there will be no scent. Are there any women swingers out there that would accommodate a request from a swing partner to be dirty so he could smell her butt? --------------------- Question 2: From reading this board I've learned that there is little emotional attachment to the sex that occurs between swing partners. Most of the women are loyal to their men other than the fact they have sex with other men. Do any swingers swap wives or girlfriends for an entire night or weekend? I would love to borrow a man's wife for an entire weekend of nonstop sex. ---------------------- Questoin 3: How do I suggest swinging to my girlfriend? I'd be interested in 2 girls, and swapping with another couple. But I am a firm believer in the 1-wiener rule. No other penises in the room but mine. My girlfriend is great. We've been together for about 2 yeras. But there is no future. I am not going to marry her. I'm certainwe will be friends after we break up. So since I'm not going to marry her, I thought maybe she could be my passport to pussy. Should I come straight out and ask her if she'd be interested in swinging? (She'll probably say no.) Should I joke about it and see how she responds to jokes? Should I show her this website and let her read it for a few weeks to desensitize her to the thought? Odds are against her being for this. So I want to bring it up in a way that is the least likely to get a flat out "no". But regardless of what she says I'll respect her decision. ---------- Question 4: My ultimate fantasy would be to go to a hotel party with 6 or more other couples and randomly draw names out of a hat to choose partners that we'll have sex with and then go back to our rooms and get it on. Do these kinds of things happen? I heard that it used to be popular to randomly choose partners in the 1970s. --------- Question 5: Another fetish of mine is cumming on a woman's face. Is cumming on a woman swinger's face acceptable? Does this happen? Do any women out there reading this let guys cum on their faces? What would happen if the woman said no and you did it anyway? Sometimes I get a thrill out of doing things that I'm not supposed to do! Do women swingers swallow? That's a huge turn on too. Do you women let guys do this when you swing or is it a "husbands" only thing? ---------------------------- Question 6: Spanking. Do any of you females out there like to be spanked? Does spanking occur? I know there are a few women out there who like to be spanked, because I've had them. I'd love to be in a situation where I spank a man's wife and he spanks my girlfriend and we spank the hell out of them. I spank his wife. He then tries to one-up me by spanking my girl. Then I spank his wife harder. He spanks my girl harder. Oh yeah that would be fun! -------------------- I'm sure I have other questions that I can't think of right now. Thanks for your input, especially you females out there.
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How can I interest my wife in swinging WITHOUT ! being a manipulative SOB....that I have been and that members on this board have made clear to me. My eyes have been opened to my ways...now what can I do? Is my only recourse to "shut up" forever? What about this idea? I think this idea may put "the ball" into her corner so to speak......but first a bit of history much of which you will also find in my very first post but that I think I need to state here . My wife is friends with a guy that is married, but his marriage is very poor and he told me that he is thinking about leaving and that he does not "really" love his wife, whatever that means. My wife wants only friendship with this guy at this time and has told me but she does think he is good looking although not as good looking as me He is VERY attracted to my wife, as are all men. He has told her this and has even said stuff like "you make me horny' and you are "very hot" but as I said he respects her boundaries. He knows that have told my wife to do anything with him that she wants to, should she want to. I did tell her today that I think she should wait until he leaves his wife before she gets physical with him, should she ever desire this. I give members on this board credit for waking me up on this one. He thinks I am nuts by the way My wife has the "walls" and "barriers" up and he knows it and because he is a good guy and respects her he has not tired to be "forward" at all. I think this also has to do with the fact that he is still with his wife and he doesn't feel comfortable going after my wife for sex while still with her. Now for "the idea" ...which I think puts "the ball" into my wife's corner and gives her some real meat to chew on I think. My wife has a very strong fantasy about being fucked and licked at the same time....I would like to see this one unfold with me as the licker and another man as the one doing doggy. Never tried it but I think it can be done. Here are my concerns....... Would it be appropriate for this man to be "the man", if he does leave his wife that is? I don't want him doing this while he is with his wife. He is my wife's good friend and in becoming "the man" the friendship would never be the same again and in fact it could end the friendship altogether. What do you think here? But I don't see why he could not continue to be a good but all be it different kind of friend. I am also concerned that because they are good friends there is the possibility that either he, or my my wife, or both ,will "fall in love". I highly doubt that my wife would simply because of our very strong love for each other and for the fact that she said that she would never trade me for her male friend, even IF she got physical with him in the future....which she doubts she will do. Thanx all
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Hello all. This is my first post on this board, but also a good way for me to ask for some needed advice. I apologize in advance if this is too long winded!! I’m the male half of a very happy, young (both 28 yrs old, together for 7 years, married for 3), married couple with 2 kids and another due shortly. I truly adore my wife in every way - emotionally, physically, sexually. She is the greatest mother in the world to our children, and an even better wife. She is my soul-mate and I love her more than anything in the world. Not to mention she is the hottest thing I have ever seen…. Well, as I’m sure everyone here knows, work, kids and everything else in the world can take their toll on a married couple’s “alone time.” So last year on her birthday, I arranged an erotic weeklong getaway for us both. She is fairly reserved, not the swinging type on the surface, but I wanted to see if switching up the environment, and letting her know that this week was about us ALONE, I figured I could loosen her up. We had certainly never done anything like this before. Sex between us was restricted to the bedroom, and even though it is amazing, we have traditionally been far from what you would call sexually explorative. Well, my idea worked. We had an incredible week, filled with the best sex we’ve ever had. We also played some sex games for the first time in our lives, and she brought up (during a game of truth or dare) that she fantasizes about having sex with another woman. I also told her my fantasy about having sex with her while she blew another guy. She didn't flinch at either. We didn't really pursue it much further (truth or dare came up on our last night) but naturally I can’t stop thinking about the possibilities. We’re a bit preoccupied now as she’s on bedrest from the pregnancy, but I am already planning her next birthday week (it helps me pass the time since sex is off limits for the time being), and that's where I’d like some advice. I’m going to arrange another erotic week, with some similar games and activities (possibly a different theme), and I wanted to try to kick it up a notch, but didn't know how far I could take it. I know she’s not ready for real swinging yet (I don’t really know if I am either), not even the soft stuff, but I was thinking maybe trying to set up a surprise where one night at the hotel bar we bring in another couple to join one of our corny sex games like truth or dare, or strip poker to see what it does for her. My idea was some fondling, nudity, possibly massaging of body parts, etc. No oral or intercourse, just some "fairly" dirty, safe fun.. I’m not sure yet if I am thinking about complete strangers that we pick up at the bar, or someone that we know. I am a strong believer in the element of surprise when I get romantic, but I know everyone here always talks about communication, etc. Do you think another couple is something I can innocently spring on her as a surprise? I really wanted to see how she would react to a situation where we were performing somewhat sexy acts in front of other people and possibly some light contact with them, instead of the typical truth or dare scenarios that we did last time. I’m not sure if this is the best introduction to opening up our marriage to this type of activity, so if anyone has any better ideas, please let me know. On our last romp, some of the things we did, included riding the glass elevator at the hotel with me inside of her until we both came, sex while we took a shower of the men’s locker room (and in an ironic twist, the cleaning man was doing his thing while we were getting busy – talk about erotic!!), skinny dipping in the hot tub unbeknownst to the other 2 people in the tub, and I had her perform various tasks throughout the hotel in various states of undress – answering the door for the room service guy in a towel, and letting it slip before he left, getting ice from the ice machine in a wet t-shirt and panties, being naked on the indoor balcony, etc. It was all very erotic, and she was extremely receptive to it all – much more than I thought she would be, as we (and mostly she) have traditionally been fairly buttoned up when it comes to sex, etc. It really brought a new dimension to our sex life, one that I would like to continue, and that I think she would too. Am I a wacko? Should I just tell her what I’m planning and see what she says, ruining the surprise? I just figured it would be a nice way to continue the “opening up” that we started on her last birthday. I’m still nervous though about bringing up the subject of swinging as I don’t want to upset her if my assumptions are wrong, but what I’m thinking of is something a bit more innocent, than a swapping situation. Any ideas would be appreciated. Monte PS - This web site rocks. Pity I just found it.
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I know that there must be wives out there (like mine) who thought theur husbands were crazy and the idea disgusting when they brought up the idea of swinging. Now, however, you are happy and swinging. What changed your mind? Actually, Ann was never shocked or disbusted and we have talked about it for years, now, but she is still not ready to take the step. I know it must be her own decision and I am not pushing her. I was just wondering what thing or things led you to adopt the lifestyle, even if you were against it, initially.