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My wife and I love skinny dipping after our youngest is in bed. We have a daughter in college that comes home on some weekends. One weekend recently, she surprised us by coming home early after being out with friends and caught my wife and I in the pool, no swim suits of course. She wasn’t freaked out, she actually was cool about it and hung out by the pool a while. She asked if we would mind if she got in for a swim, we said of course. She went in the house(we thought to get in a swim suit of course) and she came back out wearing a towel which she soon revealed that she also was nude. She is 20 by the way. She said since we were skinny dipping it would be ok for her to as well. My wife was totally fine with it. I’m ok with it, it just caught me by surprise and off guard to say the least to the point where I couldn’t look at her at first since it was my daughter. That went away after a bit. This is the first time she’s went completely nude with us. My wife and I go nude around the house all the time and she would just go around in a T-shirt and panties when she lived at home and when she comes home now. She never had shown an interest in anything more than that before. Am I just over reacting since it was the first time she’s done that and I’m trying to process it? She’s been a free spirit since she was little, so it shouldn’t be a surprise to me. She knows we’re swingers and we’re both bisexual and she thinks that’s awesome, so I don’t know why I reacted the way I did with the skinny dipping. Any ideas and opinions are welcome

Just wondering if any of you have ever done anything with a girlfriend or wife's mom or sister?

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There was topic the other day about what to do with all there swinging photos/videos. Well this past Christmas holiday my husband got himself a new computer, he follow the basic installation. while installing he installed OneDrive. A few days later our daughter saw a new icon on her laptop with the OneDrive icon and saw us in one of are "parties" from 2016. Hubby didn't realize he put it in shared mode. She kinda freak out and call us to her room and explain ourselves and what we are doing. At that point since the cat is out of the bag, we told her the truth and about us and our lifestyle and what we have done. She was asking us a whole lot of questions and we were honest to all her questions. During all this confession, our daughter told us that she is bi too, only since June 2021, and told us her first time happen in a foursome with her ex bf at the time and her bff and her bf in a after school prom party. During the Covid lock down she felt bored and wishes to try new stuff. So with her friends and all four agree to try something new and try the foursome. She told us that she like the experience and she and them continued to have experience with three and four some till my daughter broke up with her bf ( for other reason) and she continued to have threesome with her bff and bf ever once and a while. Recently she ask us that she wanted to try it and become a swinger and see what it was like. She ask us if it ok with us to take her to 1 of our local clubs for her 19 birthday in March (legal age where we are from) and (if there no other delay in opening thing open up). It was something we did not expect to be ask from her. I was speechless for the first time in a long time. I did not know how to answer her. I know I need to give her answer soon. I know I can not keep dodging the question and I need to answer her soon. We haven't told any of our swingers friends about her and her request . She the oldest of all our swingers friends who have kids. We never really talk about it, our kids life, We do not know if any of our swingers friends haved shared their personal life to there own kids. We know our daughter is adult, gonna be 19 in March, old enough to make her own choices in life. We trust her judgment. If we do not give her our blessing we don't how she will react, she might go off and go own her own without any real knowledge of the people she hang out with. And if we do give our blessings we know that she will be safe with people and places that we know and we can give her the best advice we can. We are aware that if we do give our blessings there a good chance that she might be "playing" with are swingers friends. And we are ok with that. It all part of the Swinger lifestyle. Different people, different ages, everyone there having a good time. Our question to you all is, how do we proceed, do we give her our blessings or not. Any parents here that had similar situation happen to them. And any people here who has swingers parents ? what was it like knowing that your parents were swingers. What was it like knowing the truth about them. Thank you for your time in reading this long text. And thanks in advance for the replies.

Somebody on reddit recommended to come here. Our son(23M) was returning one of our bags we left at his house a week ago. He decided to return it late at night last Saturday. Our "party" ended and we had people leaving. Apparently, when he reached out front door we had couples leaving and talking about the party. My wife opened the door in shock. He threw the bag on the floor "Here's your stuff, sorry if I interrupted your orgy." My wife, as usual started blowing up his phone. My wife had the phone on speaker. He picked up the fourth time and "Mom we can talk about this on Friday at my place but I want to be left alone for this week. Friday came and we were sitting at his place. He let out a lot of his frustrations. He said "You guys were basically gone every other weekend when I was 16 years old. Was the only time you guys were at home was because you didn't have any fuck buddies to suck and fuck?" I told him to watch the way he spoke to us and that we did still spent time on the days we didn't go nor we gone for the whole weekend. He responds "Yeah name one time you guys did anything with me on an individual basis? You guys were attached to the hip basically. I was actually jealous of your relationship. How fucked up is that! I used to think it's nice and all how much you love each other but couldn't show me the same amount of love and attention. I used to get sick seeing you snuggle with each other like teenagers whenever we used to watch a movie together. You used to tease me about it but you had no idea how I felt inside." I responded with telling him that a romantic relationship and a parent child relationship are completely different. He gets pissed off and said" Don't insult my intelligence. I know that. It's still doesn't change you guys cared more about each other. I've seen how girlfriend's parents love on her. I used to get jealous. By the way, mom, yes my girlfriend isn't a big fan of yours. She doesn't respect you as my parents. The reason I didn't share how I felt when I was at home because it felt humiliating." My wife starts bawling in tears and starts begging for forgiveness while reaching out for a hug. He rebukes and calls her a whore. I started seeing red and I was up in his face telling him to watch his mouth. He then responds with saying "What are you going to do man-whore. I shouldn't be calling you a man. Get the fuck out of my house before I lose control." My wife has called out for going to work tomorrow and today. She hasn't left the bed and is crying. I've been crying all night. My son hates my guts and I don't know what to do. *Note: there's alot more cursing, so paraphrased the stuff he said

Something strange and can I say uncomfortable occurred a few weekends ago. We are not very involved on a regular basis in swinging. I like to say we enjoy swapping and have been to a very limited number of full swing parties. Our regular swap partners live far enough away that it is real special occasion when we visit them or they visit us. I am still not totally into girl play and as we say I am at last open to some play. We were invited to visit our friends, they told us we would be just the four of us one night and asked it was fine with us to have two other couples the next night. I hesitantly agreed. I do enjoy our friends and their house parties we attended had fun people. It does bring out a side of me I repress. Night one was everything I looked forward to. We did some play together and then swapped for the night. Next day two couples joined. The evening was a normal night of meeting new people. Knowing more was going to happen it was great that we all melded. The new couples gave a vibe of knowing themselves very well. It turned out the husband of one couple and the wife of the other couple were brother and sister. I didn’t believe them at first even when I saw a resemblance. I know I must have looked shock. They made many jokes about their relationship. Their spouses said they both knew from the very beginning and has made for interesting family get togethers. To them it was funny and made jokes about rural trash and everyone does it where they are from. I knew they were pulling my leg. I thought incest was not a real thing up to then.

I found this site quite recently. Glad that I did. It makes me happy to know there's others out there who live this kind of life. But as the title says, I have a little concern if anyone is willing to help out. As I write this, my wife and I have been together for a total of ten years. We have two kids. Years ago I gave my wife the OK that she could have sex with another guy as long as she was open and honest about it with me. She's a romantic. She didn't want flings or one night stands but an actual relationship. Enter my wife's friend Pauline and her husband August. They too have two kids of their own. Turns out Pauline and August had tried their hand at swinging but found out it wasn't for them. There was an attraction between August and Angel that Pauline and me noticed and encouraged. We made it clear to them we did not mind and were OK with it. They became a 'faithful couple'. Aside from me and Pauline, they have no other partners. We also didn't have threesomes. Sometimes Angel would spend the night at Pauline and August's and sometimes August would spend the night at our place. Pauline and me also grew close. We have sex with each other but we are not as romantically attached as compared to our respective spouses. They were 'together' for two years when we made the decision to cohabit in one house. We became a household with four parents and four kids. The four kids get along fine and we the adults come off as really good uncles and aunts. And yes they have been taught that Angel and August's relationship is different from the rest. Angel and August though act as much like husband and wife as we do. Months ago Angel and August told us it was time they have a baby. They wanted a fruit of their love and even said they wanted three. Pauline and me were both happy to know they've come to that decision. The former more so than I ever thought possible. Pauline really loved the idea of my wife getting pregnant with her husband's child and joined them in the first of many threesomes to assist in the impregnation. Pauline didn't fuck August but she would suck him hard. But she surprised everyone when she kissed and licked Angel's pussy to get her wet. (Neither she nor my wife have ever hinted at being bi and beyond that, nothing sexual has happened between them.) Pauline would further help by guiding August's cock inside Angel's wet pussy. She would then talk dirty to them and urge August on to cum and knock up Angel. My wife soon started feeling nauseous and vomiting. Pauline and me brought her three home pregnancy tests but it was a doctor's appointment with August that confirmed she was carrying August's baby. I don't know just how to explain the feeling but there's is just something wonderful seeing my wife's belly grow with another man's child. My wife is now 33 weeks pregnant with hers and August's third child. Our kids know who is the father of the unborn. They know they're only half-siblings but they're excited and simply love running their little hands over Angel's growing belly. Now here lies my current conundrum. A friend of ours actually brought it up as a joke and we feel stupid to have not considered this at all. So pardon me for having to ask this and if this comes off as a stupid question. Whose last name do we give the baby and who signs the birth certificate as the father, me or August? I mean I am most willing to give the baby my name and write my name on the certificate. But so is August. I actually think August should be it.

We are going to visit lifestyle friends who used to live in Metro NYC, but moved to Florida. Friends and family ask how we know them and we are stumblin’ and bumblin.’ Does anyone use a good cover story?

OK, problem on steroids, but, living in a tourist area we have a LOT of people that want to share our home. Now, wearing clothes in the pool, wearing clothes, period, not watching whom is kissing or fondling whom, etc, is problematic. Are we the only ones?

I listen to Dan Savage a lot. I should probably just call him and ask this on the podcast. But I thought I might get feedback from swingers first. Dan Savage talks a lot about how the biggest way people who are gay or bi can support the gay rights movement is to be out. Especially bi people who appear to be in a heterosexual arrangement. This is me. I can totally relate to what he is saying. I have a friend who from the sound of it has a closeted gay teenager. She says to him, "You know I'll love you no matter what, but you do like girls, right?" She has a conservative religious background. I feel like for both their sake I should say something to her (like, "Whether he does or doesn't like girls, saying that isn't going to change anything and is going to make him afraid to disappoint you."). I feel like if I included that I am bisexual it would help. She knows me and knows I'm a good person leading a happy life. Maybe knowing me and who I really am would make things easier for her son? I also have the situation with vanilla acquaintances who say and do things that are homophobic. I'm not really afraid to come out as bi. The problem is that the way I express my bisexuality is through swinging. My husband is not in a position where we can be fully out as swingers. Plus, I feel like swinging is part of our sex life, therefore not everyone needs to know about it. I worry that if I tell people I'm bi, it will turn into a big discussion and I'll end up telling them about swinging. What do you think? Please tell me your experiences.

Hello, this is Petra. There is some news I want to share with the Board. The Background - I have been a member here for about seven years, since shortly after I married David. My ex-fiance, Red has been my boyfriend continuously since before I met David. Our journey has included only a little swinging, mostly me setting David up with my girlfriends, before settling on polyamory about four years ago with one of those girlfriends, Clair. Our foursome includes David, our girlfriend Clair, and me who all live and love together, and Red who lives nearby and is linked only with me. We did eventually open our poly foursome up to swinging with a wonderful couple, Walter and Lora, that had never swung before. We all played except for guy/guy, and as before, Red and Clair. Swinging affected Walter and Lora's relationship to such an extent that they got married. Walter and Lora were regulars with us until they moved to Los Angeles, and now we see them only several times a year. I posted here regularly, although not frequently, until October 2011, when I suddenly stopped, not resuming until this week. The reason is that I had a baby. As hubby and I discussed in the past, my first child would be "pot luck" between him and Red. If the first wasn't David's, the second would be. But there's more to the story. I debated whether I should post this story on the Board, but figured that another data point in life may be useful for others. I'll try to keep it short and relevant, but as Mark Twain said, “I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.” In October of 2011 Clair told me something was wrong, she didn't feel right. She was tremendously upset; she was afraid she was pregnant. We took the morning off from work and got three different brands of pregnancy test kits at the drug store and confirmed that was the case. We were both on extended oral contraceptives, the kind where you don't have a period. I was stunned, but felt joyous. She told me she was sorry and that she do whatever I wanted. Clair thought I would be upset with her having David's baby, especially before me. I told her I was so happy for her and us, we hugged and cried, and did all those girl things, and took the rest of the day off from work. Then at lunch together we told David he was a father. (A certainty since Red and Clair don't have sex with each other, and with Walter and Lora living in LA, there had been no play with them in over 4 months.) Anyway, that made me realize that for many reasons, this would be the best time for me to start to try to have a baby. After talking with hubby, he agreed that given the stability of our situation, he was indeed willing for me to go "pot luck" the first time with him and Red. And so it started, having sex deliberately to get pregnant, a new experience. And with two men! I always felt there was enough of me to share myself with two men in all senses of the word, that I wouldn't leave either of them lacking for anything, sexual or otherwise. Now, however, I felt conflicted that only one of my guys would actually be the father of my child. I did not have a plan on how to go about it, but the dynamics at the time were that Clair and David became closer, which was good since she had been more than just a sex partner for hubby. I let them spend more nights alone together, and as a result Red and I had more sex more often. Another detail that I've already shared on the Board that becomes important here is that Red cums in huge quantities, so much so that when he ejaculates it streams out the sides between his dick and the walls of my vagina. Even the other guys, David and Walter, in the past have watched in awe as it comes gushing out of my or Lora's pussy, even if Red just has the head of dick in there. David on the other hand, for having such a large penis, doesn't dribble out enough to fill a teaspoon. So between the quantity of semen and the frequency of intercourse, my child would be Red's baby. Another observation: in my Catholic high school days our "family education" as it was called, taught us that practicing birth control would ruin the experience of sexual intercourse with our spouse because you would not be "totally open" to giving your all to your spouse. Yeah, right, like having a baby wouldn't ruin everything else in your life. But now that I was intentionally trying to get pregnant (the purpose of sex after all, since I had almost forgotten) there is something to that lesson. Never before did I feel so "taken," so intimate, so fulfilled with men's orgasms, so much like a woman. I became pregnant with Red's child in January 2012, three and a half months after Clair. Clair and I being pregnant at the same time was a blessing for us women, but I can't say the same for the guys, having to put up with two moody, barfing, demanding women, not available for much fun of any type. But they were great to both of us equally. I was, and am, so proud that both men treated both women with such affection and care regardless of whose baby was whose. There are posts on the Swingers Board about sex during pregnancy, but all I can say for both Clair and me is that sometimes we wanted it badly, and sometimes not at all. I had a bond to each of the other three that was unbelievable. From the way hubby treated my crazy situation in the past, I never had any doubts, but this confirmed hubby's love for me. It also was the time that Clair and I became true lovers. Before it was deep friendship and sort of girl sex as an adjunct to being with a man, but now sex between Clair and me became love. Other than that, nothing changed in our relationship; David, Clair and I live in our house as a family while Red lives a short distance away, and he either visits me at home or I would spend time with him at his house. During our pregnancies, Lora visited us twice with Walter (and we all played), and once near the end alone (the guys were happy to play with her). Did you know that the hospital will only let you have one outside support person in the delivery room? We had to make decisions. For Clair's delivery, it was easy - my darling husband would be there to help and witness the birth of his child with my best friend. For me it was more difficult, it was Red's child, but David is my husband after all. After balancing everything (and me getting my way) I decided that Red was too squeamish, so I chose Clair to be with me during delivery. Clair had her son in July 2012, we call him "Junior." I had my daughter in November 2012, we call her "Petunia" after the nick name my sister gave me. (I hated that name, but it motivated me and filled me with piss and vinegar.) But there is a twist to the story - despite all my certainty, my daughter is David's child too. It was pretty obvious looking at her, but we did the paternity test as well. You would think that Red would have been terribly disappointed, but not at all, not one little bit. He loves both those children as though they are his own (Red said to me, "That child came out of your body, Pet, that's all I need.") David didn't check with me first, but he told Red that next one will be his; I'm glad he did. After the children were born, Clair and I were even more glad we did this together. We all take care of both children, and Clair and I were able to suckle both infants, and share all of the stuff you need for babies. We put a bed in the babies' room so one of us mothers can sleep there when needed. Clair was able to make up for my shortfall of milk. Being small breasted, it was also an advantage to be able to start attempting to breastfeed Junior to get things going before I delivered Petunia. I don't know if you think it's intimate or sexy, but as part of our love-making during that time, Clair and I have gotten into bed held one another and drank from each other. I almost hate to say it, but I've been truthful with David, that if I had only one of them, it would be Clair. But mostly it's been diapers (breast milk poop isn't bad at all, formula poop stinks, and baby food poop is nasty), cribs, baby buggies, car seats, doctors appointments, and lots and lots of satisfaction. The big, BIG downside to this whole thing is my family. Actually, just my parents. Really, just my father. He is a Godly man and was pissed when I was engaged to Red and started living with him. (I told Dad I was getting married, and I did, I just ended up marrying David instead.) Mom was always worried that David would leave me because Red was always around and worried that David would find out that Red and I "had been sexual" and punch him or something. They couldn't imagine. It was also difficult for my parents to understand how I could have my friend Clair living with hubby and me, staying there even when I was out of town (they offered to let her stay with them). After I became pregnant, I visited my folks, told them the entire truth (including my misconception that I was having Red's baby), and Dad threw me out before I finished. Mom has warmed up to the grandchildren, Dad's still pissed. Well finally, we have toddlers now, both of us women have gotten back into some semblance of being in shape, had IUDs put in while we were nursing and have something of normal life again. We both hate having periods, and since we have ended breast feeding we've both gone back on oral contraceptives that have shut those down. One thing that reassured both Clair and I is that Walter and Lora still find us sexually desirable and still play with us on occasion, so that is a big ego boost. All four of us are glad that we are in this poly situation because it is easier to raise the kids and makes it possible to be, at least a little, in The Lifestyle. Writing this while on a business trip far, far from home, I sleep well at night knowing that there are other three parents to take care of my babies, and that Clair and hubby have each other's arms at night. When I'm tired and overwhelmed, I hallucinate that Junior and Petunia are both my children and Red is Petunia's father. Sometimes Clair and I will be sitting on the couch holding our babies and just start crying uncontrollably and hug each other. Oh, and if you look at my profile, you will notice I turned thirty not long ago.

How many people had parents who were swingers? If so, how did you find out?

Was wondering what the opinion is on family nudity in the home. I'm not talking about lounging around watching TV in the nude with the kids around or having lifestyle friends over when the kids are around. What I mean is, are you comfortable changing clothes, getting out of bed in the morning if you sleep in the nude, getting a shower, etc. if your kids are around you. Does it matter if they are a different gender than you, does age matter? Do you think being in the lifestyle makes you more comfortable with this than someone who was not in the lifestyle?

I've been reading the archives tagging threads there and I came across a thread about someone swinging with a friend they owed money to. It got me thinking of the list of people you should probably NEVER swing with... Someone you owe money to Your boss Your subordinate I know some would say friends and family - I think it depends on the situation and who is involved. Who would be on your list of people you should never swing with?

"OOPS! We totally meant to pixelate your face, but we forgot" The couple tried to sue the tv station after their daughter discovered the video online, showing her undisguised parents at a swinger club. The judge threw it out making the point that for them to sue the daughter would have to appear in court and testify to how distraught this made her, which would only leave her more distraught. Teen girl discovers 'swinging' parents online - The Local Embarrassed parents of girl, 15, who saw them swinging in sex club on TV programme win damages | Mail Online

My wife has an attraction to my nephew. And it is obvious he likes her as well. I have talked to my wife, Kim I will call her, about having a threesome for the first time. I think my nephew Jack would be willing and she would as well. I think I would enjoy this as well. My problem is I'm afraid it is too close to home. We are both new to this and would like it to be safe and and with someone we both trust to keep the secret. We have been married 30 yrs and are very curious to try this. Are we crazy? Has anyone else played this way before? p.s. my nephew is 25 yrs of age and I don't want male to male contact. Neither would he, just fun with the wife.

Does anyone have issues with pets being in the same room during playtime? I think it would be a mite inelegant and awkward to have a 95 pound German Shepherd nigh ones' gonads. Do staring feline eyes interfere with concentration?

Just a silly question & reason to tell a story... Have y'all ever walked in on your family members while they were having sex? (Parents? Grandparents? Siblings?) ...or had them walk in on you while you were having sex? I haven't had any of my family members walk in on me having sex with anyone other than myself (...but that's a different topic). I have, however, wandered over to my parent's bedroom one night with math book in hand with a question for my dad about a homework problem I was having and just as I got by their bedroom door, I heard the distinctive rhythmic squeaking or bedsprings ... I promptly turned around and went back to my room ... figured my homework wasn't THAT important at that point.

LFM2 made the statement that her daughter found their AFF profile. For those who's kids have found your profile(s) (or not kids, someone else very close to you), what happened? I think my son is too young to get it yet -- he doesn't like to see us kiss, so the thought that we have sex would truly disgust him. The older kids -- hard to say. I can see the daughter, who's in College, being all "OMG! That is Gross! How can you do that? (unless, of course, she's had some sort of group sex experience, which she might since she's in College and all)" and the older son being "whatever." I have one sister who would think it was cool (I suspect she's had some experiences herself), other sisters wouldn't find it so cool; my mother would assume I was talked into it somehow ... Just curious about reactions, good or bad. I remember PrettyLady talking one time about her sister being a swinger as well ... maybe the sister found her and Dog's profile maybe?