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I did not want to hijack the other recent thread that is similar to this... so I started a new one here. also... I recently made a reply to a "Getting Started" type thread, that is along this topic as well. (As a reference.) This type of question comes up a lot on this BBS (scattered all over the place), so I am attempting to get some comparisons and feedback in one place. If you feel so inclined... Please feel free to comment, share your experience, etc., on the following: (One or more... Or any combination you want.) What is your preference? "Date" Webs vs Swingers Club vs Meet & Greet vs House Party vs Resort vs Cruise Why? What has your experience (progression) been like? Started with one. "Graduated" or changed to another because...? ... etc. I've tried finding out details online, but I must be missing something. So... Maybe someone here can clarify a few things for me... For Hedonism II ... a.k.a. "Hedo" "All Inclusive" ... "Lifestyle-friendly" It sounds like sex out in the open, day or night, is acceptable here. Maybe not so much in the dining areas and such... but from what I've gleaned, this is way more than just a simple "CO" resort. (With folks hooking-up in private rooms, or designated play areas on the resort grounds.) Any comments or experience here? For Desire "All Inclusive" It sounds like this is more of just a "Clothing Optional" (CO) facility, and sex out in the open (on the beach, in the hot-tub, etc.) is not looked upon favorably. One LS podcaster I heard called Desire “My happy place”... but it is not real clear (from their web) if Desire (one or both) is “Lifestyle Friendly”. The Desire Cruises seem to be LS Friendly. Also.. There are apparently two Club / Resorts for Desire: Desire Riviera Maya Resort Desire Riviera Maya Pearl Resort What is the difference here, if any? and / or... Here in the "Lower 48"... It seems the only real "Lifestyle Resort" (that rivals places like Hedo & Desire) is: Sea Mountain Lifestyle Resort Sounds like a “Day Visit” facility that is "Lifestyle Friendly", with a few (15) luxury rooms... similar to Hedo & Desire in atmosphere. Any comments or experience here? Any other similar resorts (in the Lower 48)? I am aware of some other "Lifestyle Resorts" that seem more like glorified clubs. Freedom Acres - Devore CA ... just North of San Bernardino, CA / LA Area I am also aware of a few others... but they seem to be just "CO" (Naturist) type facilities. Paradise Lakes Resort … Lutz, FL - North of Tampa http://www.paradiselakes.com/ “Paradise Lakes Resort is a private, clothing optional resort, located in the heart of the nudist capital of the United States - Pasco County, Florida.” (More Naturist than Lifestyle... or so it seems.) Caliente Resorts … Land O Lakes, FL - North of Tampa https://calienteresorts.com/ “Adults Only” https://calienteresorts.com/faq/ (More Naturist than Lifestyle.) “Overt sexual behavior or the appearance of such behavior is unacceptable at Caliente Resorts. Behavior 'never needing an apology' is the norm.” Paradise Valley Resort & Club - Dawsonville, GA http://www.paradisevalleyclub.com/ (More Naturist than Lifestyle.) “Behavior requiring an apology is not tolerated.” (The term "Paradise" seems to come up a lot.) (Maybe it is just a name, in terms of cleanliness, atmosphere, etc.) I know that is a lot... but any light shed on just one of these would be helpful. Many of these sites do not have FAQ pages, for quick & easy answers. I am also aware of the (limited?) crossover between Naturist & Swinger communities. A simple "Copy & Paste" for a link reference would be greatly appreciated (for anything not mentioned here). Most all of this I have heard mentioned on this BBS at some point (in the past few years). Regardless of what the responses here are... I find it pretty amazing that there are so many LS type opportunities available. -
Long time lurker, first time poster here... Our story starts out a lot like many others here. The wife and I have talked and fantasized about dipping our toes in the scene since I approached the subject about 2 years ago. When I initially brought up swinging, I was met with the typical eye rolling from the wife, along with "yeah, I'm sure YOU'D love THAT" playful denial. However the more we talked and researched together, the more we both realized that if others can do it, why can't we? Recently, we've been talking about it more frequently, and the wifey started asking more questions and expressed more of an interest, but only 'to make me happy'. I told her there was no way I was pressuring her into this, it had to be HER decision to move forward, because after all the reading I've done if I learned nothing else, it's that the women control the pace, and I did NOT want to screw this up before we even started! Anyway, jump forward to last week... after a very busy holiday season, we'd been trying to plan some together time. Vegas is only a 2.5 hr drive away, so it is usually our go-to place for impromptu weekend getaways. So, last week we started looking into the clubs around Vegas and decided that we'd give the Red Rooster a try. We headed over to Vegas on Thursday night, and spent Friday at the outlets and shopping looking for something sexy to wear that evening. The wifey is a little self conscience, but I absolutely love her sexy curves and we found some outfits that she looked fantastic in and still made her feel comfortable and not too 'exposed'. There was a bit of exciting tension between us most of the day...and as the evening grew later, I could tell she was starting to get very nervous and anxious. She is a bit apprehensive to try new things in general, however she reassured me that she was OK and wasn't about to back out. Around 11pm we were both dressed and looking good, if I do say so, and left the hotel for the 20 minute drive to the Rooster. We stopped and grabbed a 12 pack for the BYOB bar, and continued the drive with death grip hand-holding and reassuring our plan for the evening. We pulled up and parked in front of the place and almost chickened out...it was the wife that said, "I just psyched myself up on the trip over - I'm not backing out now!" So we walked in, paid our $30 and checked our beer into the bar. We got a quick rundown of the joint from a regular and strolled around part of the downstairs area. We parked on a couch and just kind of people watched while sipping a beer. After about 30 minutes or so there was another couple from out of town getting the rundown from one of the volunteers/staff. We introduced ourselves and asked if we could be included on the 'tour'. Knowing that the other couple was new to this also really helped us relax and we got a great tour from one of the Staff members - he showed us all of the areas downstairs and let us know about the upstairs 'couples only' space. We had decided before coming that whatever happens, happens, but we had no aspirations of playing with anyone. This was purely a fact-finding mission - we would just go and check things out, and maybe have a little fun with each other. So after the tour, we grabbed another beer and were sitting for just a moment when a single male (who we assumed and later confirmed was a regular) came and sat to chat us up. He was friendly, and it was obvious to him we were newbies, but he was very nice and polite - flirted a little but no pressure. We told him early in the conversation that it was our first time and we were just checking out the scene with no intentions of playing. He was very nice and continued our conversation for another 10 minutes or so before excusing himself. After that, we headed upstairs to the couples only area. We found ourselves a spot on a sofa with about 6 other couples. We talked about our experiences that night, made out, I started playing with her boobs, and soon her girls were out in all their glory. My wife has quite large and amazing breasts and it was incredibly erotic for me to enjoy them in front of a crowd. Soon my pants were undone and she was giving me a blow job - something I never could have imagined happening 'in public'. It all seemed so natural and comfortable. By this time it was about 2am and the place was clearing out, so we decided to head back to our hotel and finish what we started at the Rooster. On our way back to our room we recapped the evening, and came to the conclusion that we both loved it and can't wait to try it again! While we didn't play with anyone else, this experience did wonders to eliminate any anxiety and help us get comfortable in a club environment. It also helped us realize that, while we weren't put in that situation yet, we most likely won't have any jealousy issues because we felt more open with each other than we'd ever felt before. We screwed 3 times in the 12 hours following our return from the club...I can't remember even doing that as newlyweds! Our 'local' club is Freedom Acres, which is only about 35 minutes away. We have already started planning an evening there - maybe next time we'll find some playmates!! We can't wait!! Thanks for taking the time to read my novel...thanks to all the contributors on this site. This is a great resource that certainly put us at ease and helped us learn what to expect. Edit: I just noticed our join date on this site...I guess it was more than 2 years ago that we started talking about this!
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We are going to Freedom Acres on Saturday. The theme is booty shorts and fishnets. I've got my outfit picked for the theme. But, I'm hesitating. How often do the ladies participate in the theme. I realize it depends on the theme. I'm sure 'short skirts and no panties' night is easier to do. Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice?
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Our thoughts have been with Freedom Acres for quite some time now. We've been wanting to spice up our sex life for awhile, and came to the conclusion that the swinger lifestyle may be suitable for us. It took us awhile to get there. It took some time, and it took a LOT of research, reading and conversations back and forth. Finally we arranged for a baby sitter and took the plunge. We went to FA last night, at last. Personally, I had a completely open mind. Both our minds were open in fact, and our boundaries were somewhat flexible since we weren't sure how we'd react should certain situations arise, and we really didn't have any strict "don't"s .... (Except "no means no" and condom policy!) So we were prepared for nothing happening at all, just us voyeurizing the crowd which is exciting to me, but at the same time we were also prepared to get caught up in the moment and get some playtime in, either with each other or others. We got the grand tour of the premises, everyone there were so cool, the people working there, so casual and kick back, really made us feel comfortable. After having been introduced to the on premise body painter, I decided to have him paint my arms because I had a really wicked sunburn and wanted something else on there for people to focus on... Well ... I did walk away with a VERY cool arm painting, but in the process I also somehow lost my shirt and had him paint some awesome artwork on my boobs lol, so I tossed aside all shyness in the beginning apparently .... and went topless all night. It was a big step for me, my boobs are usually something I try to minimize and hide as they are too large for my liking,, but somehow I got caught up in the scene and tossed all that shyness aside. (And I want it to be known that I was not even drinking alcohol ....) We mingled a little, talked to some people, voyeurized a LOT. Not quite sure how to approach people, we did start some minor touching with a couple of people, sort of a warmup I guess. As the alcohol flowed and people were getting more loose, more women started losing their clothes and things started heating up on the dance floor. My husband and I danced for a little while, but then we decided to check out the backrooms. There was a "torture" chamber there with some options to get tied up, that is certainly a room I want to try, however this time we were just getting started and not quite ready to be THAT public yet. So we watched some couples, listened to some couples, finally we found ourselves a cubby hole and started getting busy with each other. I didn't bother putting a towel up, I didn't mind others seeing us. After all, we're all there for the same reason, and I find it exciting to watch others so why not give some back... right? Another couple poked their heads in and asked if we were comfortable with full swap. At that moment, we weren't quite ready, so they respectfully took their leave but we told them that once we get a little comfortable, we may be up for it. My husband and I had some fun on our own, and when we were done, the couple had returned. We followed them to a bigger cubby hole that would fit us all without getting too hot, and we OK'ed the full swap. A little shy at first, I was a little awkward, but that quickly passed as this man proceeded to fuck my brains out. I'm not giving any details (I don't kiss and tell.... much ....), but suffice to say I'll be walking funny for a couple of days.... (And apparently we were pretty steamy because I heard later that there was quite a crowd watching me and him as we went at it... I had no idea, didn't really care.... I was busy! But good for them, I hope we inspired some pleasure for others ;-) Who am I to be selfish and keep it to myself.) We separated from the couple, after swapping phone numbers actually, and I had thought it would be awkward afterwards with them, but not at all. Better yet, there was no awkwardness between me and my husband either. I had anticipated feeling jealous if he fucked another woman, but it was really a hot turnon .... no jealousy at all, I find it strange. On our way home, we both discussed everything we had done. Talking about it was not a problem, we were both so high from this experience that we eagerly spilled everything to each other. So .... I'd say we have officially and THOROUGHLY been initiated into the lifestyle. Amazing, I feel great today, the morning after, and there is no weirdness between myself and my husband. Infact, there are more sexy winks and secret smiles than there has been between us in awhile. I believe the swinger lifestyle agrees with us. I guess it's a good thing I didn't donate all my skimpy skirts to Goodwill after all ....
