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Hey all. Hubby here. Recently my wife had her annual check up upon which she was directed to have a follow up concerning cells. During the follow up with the specialist, where she received a colposcopy, she was given a weird vibe when the specialist mentioned she should not "have" whatever is present if she was in a monogamous relationship - read: your husband is likely cheating on you. My wife is quite unwilling to discuss our private lifestyle with any doctor, against my recommendation. As she is also in the field, she feels it will diminish her respect level. Anyways, we felt based on the evidence we had so far, that she had or has HPV which are causing abnormal cells. She had a biopsy which came back inconclusive. She has since gone for another follow up which included a LEEP procedure. We are presently awaiting any results that may follow. While the early results are somewhat reassuring (no cancer, yet), this has obviously struck us hard. We are not active in the lifestyle but certainly enjoy things from time to time. If the cause of the abnormal cells is HPV, we have a very good idea where she (we) got it. We didn't use condoms with the last female partner we were with (our mistake). However, based on all the materials we have read, it is unlikely that condom use would prevent the spread of HPV in this particular scenario (MFF) as oral play and digital play was definitely in the mix and we simply won't take steps to constantly sanitize! This has my wife (and myself to a lesser degree) questioning our choices and our willingness to continue in this type of lifestyle. While our feelings to the act itself haven't changed, neither of us feels it's worth risking hers or our health. Although I can't say I would be happy with giving it up. Just wondering if anyone out there has had any similar experiences or has any thoughts on the subject.
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First-time poster here. I've been on the board for a while, but I setup a new account just for this post. I'm posting this message with a two-fold purpose: One, to bring reality to the issues and ramifications associated to the lifestyle and Two, to get some other perspectives and advice. My wife and I started swinging a little over a year ago. We've had full swap experiences with about 7 or 8 couples since then. We always used condoms for penetration. About 4 months ago, my wife had an abnormal pap which led to inconclusive biopsies, then a LEEP procedure. Supposedly, she's OK for now, but we won't know for sure until her 6 month follow-up. About a month ago, I was diagnosed with genital warts. I just had about 20 of them burned off (not fun at all!). The doctors are fairly convinced all of this is HPV related. They are assuming the abnormalities from her pap were more wart-like, and not cancerous as the strands of HPV are not the same for the two. There is no HPV test for men, and all the tests on her were negative. Which isn't really an indicator as the doctors say it is very difficult to truly diagnose. So, we obviously haven't had sex with anyone (or each other for that matter) in the last few months. We've clearly agreed that the benefits of the lifestyle are absolutely not worth the costs and associated risks. (As we've learned the hard way). We very much like the 'sexy' openness of the clubs and have talked about continuing to go, but just not playing with others. Or maybe once things straighten up maybe some mild soft-swap only play. We definitely don't want to spread anything, but we also don't want to catch anything else. I'm really looking to get some feedback from others about: Is it wrong/uncool to go to swing clubs knowing we are not going to ever play with others? We don't want to openly publicize we have/had HPV & warts. If we do go to clubs, we'd meet new people - but don't want offend anyone if we won't play. We're thinking we'd eventually be ostracized for either being 'too-picky or too-good-for snobs' or for being contaminated! Would anyone soft-swap with others who had HPV in the past/or quite possibly still do but with no symptoms? We're both pretty alone and confused right now and would like to get some other perspectives. Please feel free to openly reply to this post, or if you'd prefer PM's would be great too. (Rest assured, anything PM'd will absolutely remain private!). HPV is rampant throughout society, and as to be expected in the lifestyle. I'd offer that it is not a matter of IF you get it, it's simply a matter of WHEN... You also cannot judge a book by it's cover!!! We were very picky and selective as to who we played. Thanks in advance. -
So, a couple floored me and admitted they're positive for genital warts. My initial reaction was, "why the f*ck are you swinging!!?" I, of course, started looking into what it means and how it's transmitted. Genital warts are very contagious. You can get them during oral, vaginal, or anal sex with an infected partner. You can also get them by skin-to-skin contact during vaginal, anal, or (rarely) oral sex with someone who is infected. About two-thirds of people who have sexual contact with a partner with genital warts will develop warts, usually within 3 months of contact. If you are infected but have no symptoms, you can still spread HPV to your sexual partner and/or develop complications from the virus. So, would you advise your immediate play group to avoid them, since they're obviously not taking themselves out of the game? They're still having oral and kissing (I witnessed this), and who knows what else. It's incredibly selfish of them to still be showing up at swing events, in my opinion. What do we do? Thanks, Mrs. D -
Ok, we've been reading these STD related discussions, and trying to decide what we should do. We know we might be HSV and HPV carriers just like 80-90% of the population. We are not symptomatic and haven't been active outside of our relationship for 10 years, but we are still going to be tested for all other possibilities before we go any further. What bothers me, is that given the number of people that visit this site, there aren't more that admit to being carriers of the more common infections. We couldn't find any couple in our area that doesn't say D/D free. As far as we're concerned, it's the symptoms that are the real turn-off. If we found another couple that is not symptomatic, but is honest that they may have contracted something we already have, we would not have a problem swinging with them. I mean, what's the harm? Hell, we feel that our mutual honesty would help to alleviate our own misgivings, and might help everyone relax. What we're getting at is, we realize there's a negative stigma about having an STD, but if we're all carriers and not symptomatic then why not be honest. Oh sure you can lie just so you can get that tasty virgin couple into bed, but at what cost? I thought we were all beyond the player tactics. I would like to hear from the rest of you about this. Do you feel that if a couple/person is non-symptomatic, but admits that they may have an STD you already have, that you would still be turned off? How many here have been tested recently? We plan on being tested within 3 months of any sexual contact. We don't suspect we'll find anything more, but we'd rather know than spread something. Come on people, most of us should know that the majority of the population has HPV and HSV, so why is it such a threat? In many cases, you don't even have to be sexually active to contract either. Thanks Julie for the site. I don't know if that's you in your avatar, but it reminds me (TriumphGuy) of an old girlfriend.
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My wife and I have only swung about 6 times total (with 4 different couples) and we've always used condoms for sex. Recently my wife had an abnormal pap and we discovered that she (we) has HPV and we're fairly sure we got it from swinging (since we've been monogamous for the previous 10 years). Depending on who you ask, HPV seems to be present in about 25% to 80% of the general "sexually active" population. Until recently there was NO test which could detect HPV, other than warts showing up or an abnormal pap smear for women. I haven't seen an STD test which tests for it. HPV can incubate in a healthy person for years without ever showing signs - even though the person is still "contagious". HPV is apparently extremely easy to transmit. Condoms will not stop it from spreading. So I have two questions: 1) Given this, you could have HPV and not know it. Is it expected that most swingers have it? I would think that if it was present in 80% of the general population that it would be present in even more of the swinger population. In that case, is it one of those things where it's just not talked about (everyone assumes everyone has it)? Or does everyone really think they don't have it? 2) Are my wife and I "done"? At this point we're pretty much assuming that we are, since I expect that although most swingers have been exposed to it they don't realize and so they wouldn't want to swing with people who have it. (Either that or we'll have to get a red "HPV" sticker made up for our foreheads for when we go to clubs...)
