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Well it's been a long drought with a lot of bad meetings and posers over the last two years. We've walked away more than once shaking our heads over the lies and untruths people told compared to what arrived at the meetings. One of the biggest problems was the "one party" is attractive in some fashion but the other is a dud. We finally decided to just try a threesome again and only have to focus on one person. We ran a craigslist ad and actually got what seemed like a pretty good prospect (male) met him for a beer. He seemed pretty good so we had him over Sat night. Wifey was a little unsure about screwing a just-about total stranger so I drew her up a 12 step program for guidance complete with cutouts and power point presentations only to have her go from step 1 to 12 when she just took him upstairs and screwed him. I had agreed to stay out of the first one so that neither one of them was nervous but would be in on the second one. We had the second session after and all went really well we had a great time. So the issue is this and frankly it's a stupid little issue. We realized the next day he had showed up empty handed. We paid the bill for his two beer when we first met and had discussed the fact that he liked red wine. Accordingly we bought three selected bottles for the evening along with chips, nuts, etc. We probably shelled out $80 bucks altogether. Now don't get me wrong we don't do this with expectations other than sex but still it bothered me in that at some level it seemed to indicate contempt or cheapness or thoughtlessness. None of which impressed us. I personally couldn't show up for an event like that without some flowers or chocolates or wine or even a plant it just seems like the "right" thing to do. So I thought I would ask others their opinion. Am I out to lunch here or is this an indication of bad behaviour? ****************** edit in response to another point brought up below the invitation was not for sex directly. It was a get to know us better meeting and something MIGHT happen but no guarantee. -
A friend of ours who is in the plumbing business told us an interesting story over the weekend. Seems someone who works for the same company revealed that he has been the single male for a couple's MFM fantasies for about a year now. It started when he was at the house fixing a problem. The couple basically offered up the threesome in return for the work. We were wondering if anyone has done this, is doing this, or what the thoughts are? Strangely enough, he does not know about our interests, and since he is a long time friend of ours he helps out for free, seems he may be missing out...
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What is the price point you are comfortable paying to attend a club (be it on-premise or off, hotel or free-standing). Is there a difference for you based on the type of club? At what point do you look at a price tag and say "I'm not paying that!"
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Does anyone own one? Has anyone tried one? Can you rent one first? Most of all though, is it worth the money???
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Swinger Club/Event Entrance Fees
Judy39 replied to JustAskJulie's topic in Polls & Never-Ending Threads
What is a fair price to go to a club? Too cheap and you're faced with the audience that you'd rather not see even in the most distant corners of the darkest rooms. Too expensive - and you can't afford it very often. What feels fair to you? -
Have you ever bought any of these high end toys? It seems like every year more and more techno-toys are coming out with higher and higher prices. Sure there's always been the Sibian, and no one buys one until they've tried someone else's... But it seems like there are tons of toys these days in the over $100 category. Pet has been looking at this We Vibe (clit/g-spot vibe) and I'm trying to figure out if it's really worth $140. So often I get toys and end up disappointed in them. Just last night, I wanted something small that would fit in my purse and I ended up buying this little $10 rod thing and it just doesn't work for me. It's probably the same power as a bullet but it's not concentrated so it's hard to get the power where I need it (on my clit). In the end I always go back to the basic bullet.
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We've met a man on SLS and hope to do a MFM we plan on meeting at a bar then if all is well get a room. Who pays for the room, him or us or do we split it?? Is there a proper way that this should be done? Thanks. -
We have meet a couple one time at a bar/hotel and they paid for the room. We are hoping to meet the same couple again at the same place and want to make sure we pay this time. Is this something We should bring up before ? Or do we go ahead and get the room like they did last time. Just want to be fair but not end up with two rooms LOL -
I think it would be interesting to find this out... This is on an individual basis, not household... If only one spouse works, then post that number. If both works, please pick the higher one of the two and use that number. -
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I'm so glad I found this board! I never knew it existed! We used to host private house parties several years ago before we had kids. It was just a few couples and very informal. Now that the kids are older and not as dependent on us, we can have them do sleepovers at Auntie's house or Gramma and Grampa's house. We would like to host larger scale house parties. I've read with interest (and doom) about the issues of undercovers coming in, the media, crappy neighbors, etc. About the issue of having to pay taxes on a business, create a private club, etc. This is what we want to do in particular. Let me say up front that we do not plan on participating in the play. We want to have parties for 15-20 couples max. We want food costs covered, supplies covered (plates, cups, condoms, lube, sheets, towels, wipes, etc), maintenance fees covered (floor cleaning, laundry, etc.), and coming out a little above even would be wonderful. Hubby seems to think we would make a little more than a little over even, but I think otherwise. This is what we do not want to do - be a private club. What we have to offer is 20+ acres of secluded property (some neighbors are about 1-2 acres away with foliage coverage), an indoor hot tub, pool table, massage table, stand up arcade games, a bar (no liquor), soft drinks, water, coffee, tea, mixers, condoms, lube, wipes, towels, lots of clean sheets, lockers, two showers (one in bathroom and one at hot tub), fully furnished with wood floors and carpet, large screen TV with XXX movies, a possible spanking table, interesting furniture that is good for playing, an open room, a private room downstairs with two beds, and a very private room upstairs. And food - lots of food. Here is how we think things may go. People see our website on-line and make a purchase at our store (where we pay sales tax on the sale and they get an item). It would be condoms, toys, lube, movies, etc. They would have a "donation" price built in, but it wouldn't indicate that - it would just be a higher than normal price for an item. They would pay for it ahead of time (through PayPal which double checks identity, age, etc.) and we could ship the item out or they could pick it up. Purchase of said item (if "in stock" - if they are approved) would include an invitation to our "lifestyle social". The Social would be from 6-9 p.m. There would be food, socializing etc. much like an off-premise party. Then at 9 the "social" is over. If folks want to stay for party time, they can. If they meet somebody there they want to go elsewhere with or just want contact info etc. then they can leave. After people have left at 9, the doors will be locked and the "private party" party will begin. All attending either part will have to present their drivers license which we will copy and staple to a "survey" that asks basic info, getting to know you info, and "the fine print" stating that if you are cops/media/etc. that you are there on personal business, you're not offended by sex acts, nudity, etc. and hold us harmless, etc, and other legal jargon. Our thinking on this is that nobody is paying the day of the party. Nobody is paying a "donation". They are buying a tangible product and only possibly picking it up at the free, invite-only party. Thoughts??? -
We have had several mfm threesomes with a friend of hubby's and we have always paid for the hotel room. Then one day hubby says do you think since he is having as much fun as we are that he should help in the cost of the encounters (at least pay for every other room rental)? I thought that sounds like a reasonable request. So hubby poses the question to our friend and he says ok at first. Then when it was time for him to pay for the room on the next encounter, he says, well why do we even rent a room? You guys have a house and so do I. If you guys don't want to do it at your house we can do it at mine. I have a problem with that because I feel more comfortable at a hotel room were both parties can leave at any given time after the encounter (plus it makes me feel more naughty). Then he goes on to say that he didn't know at the start of this that he was going to have to pay for it (implying paying for the pussy) and that if he invited us to dinner he would pay. Therefore, since it is us that is inviting him to play, that we should pay for the room. Yet it is also him that calls my hubby and asks question like - When do I get to taste that sweet wife of yours again? We aren't really sure who this falls on. I guess we feel since he is also having fun that why not share the costs? What do you guys think? Are we wrong in asking this? -
I'm curious as to the prices of swingers clubs across the country and what you think is too much to pay to visit a club? So if you've visited any clubs near you, what did they charge? And did you feel it was worthwhile? We've visited 3 in our town (all off-premise), 1 has a bar and only charges $20 to enter. Two are typical (byob) hotel socials and the charge was $35-40. The on-premise club in Nashville that we typically go to is $50 (byob) on Saturday (or $75 for the full weekend), plus a membership fee of $10/week (or $100/year).
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There was a topic that came up in conversation the other day, and we wanted to get other swingers’ opinions on this. The conversation was about income levels; how some people are a little intimidated by people with larger incomes, and ones with larger incomes are a little snobbish about lower incomes. This spawned a few questions with us. 1. If you have a lower income level, does this hinder you from writing other swingers if their profile seems “uppity,” (pics taken on fancy boats, in large houses, by nice cars, etc.) 2. If you have a larger income level, does this hinder you from writing other swingers if their profile seems “poor,” (pics taken in or by mobile homes, in small houses, old cars, etc.) 3. Income does not come into play with the decision to contact or not contact other swingers. B&K -
Is it true most swingers live in mobile homes? The reason for this poll is that we were talking with some one recently (a vanilla friend) and they brought up swinging. They made the comment that most people they have ever known to claim to be swingers lived in mobile homes. This is not the first time we have heard this comment. This got us to thinking about the friends we have and folks we know and if they live in mobile homes or not. Oh, and don't feel bad for living a mobile home by any means!
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Remember the Redford movie, Indecent Proposal? Well, how many of you couples would have taken him up on it had it been you? And, say you're at a meet and greet and a couple or man approached you. Now, they/he weren't what you normally have chemistry with, but also they didn't really turn you off either. You talk a while but have to courteously say no. He/they take the rejection in stride but hand you a business card and simply say that if you ever change your mind to contact them. The next day you look and on the back is an generous offer to you for helping the man/couple fullfill a fantasy with your participation. What would be your reaction?
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Let's face it. Times are tough all around us and it affects every person--swinger and non-swinger. Gas prices at all time highs. Food is shooting skyward world wide. Cost of living going up. Paychecks decreasing. Jobs dwindling in some places. But I'm just curious to find out what swingers do when the times around them are tough? How do you budget and find ways to make the dollar stretch when mommy and daddy need some quality time with the neighbors next door? Currently I (Mulder) write for AskDanandJennifer.com on religious/censorship/repression issues, but I want to write an unrelated story about how good swingers around the country/world overcome obstacles and find ways to have a sexy good time without it pillaging the wallet. I have a few ideas of my own, but I'm curious if anyone here on the Swinger's Board are in the same boat like most Americans and find it hard to justify a sexy night out when the bills got to get paid and the gas to get to your destination is too high for words. Thank you all in advance and I'll keep my ears open. -
Well, after hitting on the amount of cover charges in another thread, I thought I'd start one of its own to answer another question. What exactly does your cover charge go to pay for? We've discussed the enormity of cover charges for single men, but couples rates are still sometimes as high as $75-$100 per event. Having never been to a swinger's club, I'd like to know what exactly is the reason that fee is so high? I do understand that the clubs sometimes have expenses that straight clubs do not have such as hottub expenses, pool and spa, sauna, etc, but do those expenses reach so high as to justify a Ben Franklin? In other discussions, it's been suggested that the cover was to establish you in a setting not everyone has access to, a preferred member status, if you will, of a group of like-minded people. Additionally, it's been suggested that any price would be acceptable to be able to have the possibility of having sex with another person and their spouse. While this may prove true for some, that cover is not going to the person and their spouse for the opportunity to be accepted into their playtime. So, I'm back to my original question of where does the cover go? BTW, to John or anyone else that thinks I'm just a cheap-ass looking to get something for nothing, that's not true. If a high cover charge is truly justified, then I don't mind paying whatever charge there is to gain access to something I would otherwise not be able to enjoy, I'm simply asking because I don't know.
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In addition to not having a lot of time for our swinging desires, we find it difficult to find places to go to find other swingers. Its not that clubs and websites aren't available, its just that we can't always afford them. We're not rich folks at all, and we appreciate the fact that most of the people we have met do not judge us based on financial status. We're not dirty or ignorant or unattractive . . .we just don't have a lot of money . . .(and I don't mean to imply that poor people in general are dirty, ignorant and unattractive, so let me clear that up before that gets taken the wrong way). We've been members at Swappernet and a couple of others and very much enjoyed being members, but sometimes when the membership runs out, we can't afford to renew it (like now, for example), and it seems that most of these sites render themselves basically useless when downgraded to "free status". You can't view pics or complete profiles, you can't send e mails or receive them in some cases. It's quite often maddening because you might see an individual or couple that you think might be compatible, but you can't contact them. We're not useless members of society . . .we have jobs, a home, kids who go to school, food on the table . . .we're just "breaking even" I suppose is the way to put it. How many couples or single people have missed out on meeting and having fun with a really great couple (Yes, that would be us . . .lol) because we couldn't afford to renew our membership at that time? Where can we go that is free and discreet . . . or at least cheaper . . . that has any kind of large membership? We have a membership to one that gave me a "free month" . . . .then when it expired and I had not renewed it gave me "3 more months to help me decide" . . .I think I'm just gonna keep on going to see how long they keep "helping me decide", but the problem with them is that they have a small membership and it seems to be localized in another area of the country far from us. We LOVED Swappernet, and our profile still floats around over there, we just can't do much with it since our membership expired. Anyone have any suggestions for us? Poor people wanna have fun too!! lol
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Heres the story... We were invited to a party not long ago, it was to be 20 couples or so aging in range from mid 20's to mid 40's. The hosts are early 30's. Sounded like our crowd, so we RSVP. It gets to be a couple days before the party and we hear from the hosts (had been chatting regularly the 2 weeks prior also) that they decided to cancel the party because everyone who were invited had backed out except us and one other couple. We were shocked to say the least. Being the person I am(MR.) I had to ask why. Well it turns out that when everyone asked about sleeping arrangements (we hadn't, since we only live 15 minutes away) they were told space wasn't a problem due to them having a 25 room house and 14 of those were bedrooms:eek: The whole time we had chatted, they never once led us to believe that they were that well to do. We thought of them as just another very nice couple, and still do. After a bit of chatting we just figured that people felt intimidated or outclassed, or I'm sure someone here might have a better word to describe it. What do you all think? Would you like to know ahead of time about these things? How would of you felt if you didn't know and showed up to see a 13,000 square foot house? After me and the Mrs. talked about it, we decided that if we knew ahead of time that we might of declined the invite.
